10’s across the board i wanna keep this gem in my pocket
I want to keep this one in a locket and just look at their cute little faces for a bit of serotonin
y’all are so sick and deranged finding any way to support this. what do YOU gain from being purposely ignorant and ignoring the harm that comes from normalizing or eroticizing such violence? even in fiction, works that romanticize or sexualize abuse can desensitize people to real‑life trauma, breed/encourage harmful stereotypes about victims, and reinforce the idea that consent is negotiable or irrelevant. even though people can have their fantasies that they explore in safe, consensual ways, manhwas like this that represent rape as “arousing” without clear condemnation blurs the fine line between fantasy and endorsement, which fuels the disgusting attitudes y’all have in these comments. we’re old enough to know fiction doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It shapes perceptions, especially for teenagers who don’t fully grasp the difference between fantasy and reality. these are the same people who go on to look at real victims like they’re objects for entertainment or proof of their fantasies, showing how your downplaying to “fetish content” and “fiction” actively bleed into real‑world dehumanization. a DEEP reality check is needed.
Me when I think creators should be responsible for what teenagers see online. Sad.
Girl I’m crying at you acting like Beware The Ides In March is peak when it also has a dude falling in love with his rapist. GET A GRIP
i knew someone was going to deflect by completely disregarding practically everything i said. mokhwa is NOT in love with nakwon and the rape is NOT justified, downplayed, or ROMANTICIZED. did you consume yourself with so much fetish content your frontal lobe shriveled up?
this is only part of the problem. there are GROWN ASS WOMEN trying to act like they’re more woke and righteous than others for being okay with reading shit like this.
*clicks most recent chapter
“So we’re gonna do it all night long?” Girl.
Idk about you but where else have I heard of a story centered around a rapist and his victim being casual and chill with each other like that…oh wait. Damn. Guess it really did “shape your perception”
you’re such a diehard defender of this specific manhwa im convinced you’re fucking the author herself. it’s looking like double barrel or job application for u atp
You pull the trigger first girlie <3 we’re cut from the same cloth.
Ctfu at how you effortlessly proved my point in my last comment. It’s always fuck this manhwa until someone points out their faves which have dudes cozying up with their rapists.
ctfu at how you’re mentally retarded! unlike you i never ONCE tried to defend the rape in bttim? it’s fuck this manhwa because mokhwa wasn’t raped for 20+ chapters straight. the only thing u pointed out was how if u didn’t know i read bttim you’d be pulling shit out the deepest ends of your ass girlie
So if Juyeon apologized then it would be all peaches and cream, huh. And I don’t need to address any of the yap from your comment because you proved you don’t even believe it yourself.
i see comprehension is genuinely a lost art. nakwon didn’t rape mokhwa then 360 and jump into a relationship. did u even read bttim? or are u loyal to your abhorrent rape fetish? genuinely
I did and I was not impressed even after all the “character development”. Big surprise! Apologizing for raping someone is not a groundwork for a fucking relationship. And Juyeon’s ass isn’t sorry, you know that lol.
it always becomes yap your brain ultimately proves you sat in school for nothing at all
This whole argument could just be resolved if you had just said “I would’ve preferred it if the relationship between the rapist and his victim was a slow burn” crazyyyyyy
but i don’t support this either? are u trying to gaslight me into questioning my judgement? i hate ALL rape. friends to lovers rape, enemies to lovers rape, stranger to lovers rape, revenge rape, i hate it all. the difference here is pretty obvious if you’re actually looking at the content and not just lumping everything with the word “rape” together. bttim is ATLEAST trying to tell a story about change, accountability, and the impact of their actions even if the premise is still messy. it’s not hinging the entire plot on how many ways it can sexualize assault. meanwhile, this which is filled with endless rape, confinement, and abuse dressed up as “psychological” but is really just fetish bait isn’t about character growth at all. it’s about milking trauma for those cheap thrills you oh so love. one is aiming, undoubtedly imperfectly, for a narrative that moves forward, and the other is just wallowing in harm so dorks like u can pretend it’s deep. you should take notes on how im not small minded and can see things for what it is instead of thinking with my pussy.
So much cope all just to wind up back where we started. You are okay with a story that is inherently problematic because it eroticizes a sexually abusive relationship and ultimately treats it as a phase in the relationship rather than the crux upon which it is built on. I don’t think any rapist should be redeemed in the narrative, no matter how hard the author tries lol! And I’m not even here because I think this story is the epitome of gay romance. I’m just here to snatch up all the double-standard having fujos here. It’s fun.
What the fuck does it matter whether you hate rape or not when the rapist character still manages to be “babygirl” to you and that you “can’t get enough”? I’m not arguing that 100% of BTTIM is incompetently written. I’m saying that you can look past a problematic element that you wouldn’t be okay with irl (I hope, at least) which involves a person staying with their rapist and being physical with them. But everyone here is for some reason a bad person who is causing real harm?
the way you’ve decided that any story with a redemption arc for a rapist automatically “eroticizes” abuse, like there’s zero difference between depicting something and endorsing it is proof you’re another feeble minded victim of these manhwas. i guess nuance just isn’t that exciting for you. i can engage with morally messy fiction without suddenly becoming pro‑rape. shocking, i know. this manhwa doesn’t portray abuse as some throwaway “phase,” it’s literally the central conflict, which is why it’s already bad to read but even more disgusting to defend in the first place. it’s not up to me irl to decide if the raped wants to be with their rapist. is it ideal? fuck no. but in fiction i CHOOSE to read i have the right to acknowledge the development of these relationships and shit on ones that have no depth beyond the raped being raped. it’d be one thing if the mc got raped a couple times then blah blah blah psychological drop but his common sense is raped away and he ends up with ml. that’s it and that’s all. how ironic it is for you to claim you’re “calling out double standards” while claiming moral high ground for criticizing my tolerance of a redemption arc in a story that addresses its abuse, then turn around and excuse this that exists almost entirely to sexualize and glamorize rape without consequence. that isn’t “girlbossing” or “being woke”, you’re cherry‑picking which depictions of sexual violence you’re fine with based on whether they suit your sick taste. if the real issue that you think you’re clocking me for is “romanticizing rape”, then the fetish porn you’re defending should be the first thing on your list. you could probably fool a toddler but anybody with a functioning brain knows what you are, and a hypocrite isn’t even the half of it.
Did not read all that but let’s just shake hands and agree that we’re both problematic then. Or at least you could agree to drop the standards lol.
*double standards
Idk if you think I’m trying to make Revenge seem morally pure or something. But it’s not lol. All these stories are problematic. I’m fine with that. But for some reason you aren’t and are lashing out at everyone else. And yeah, I think redeeming a character who raped someone is fucked up, the same as a character ordering a gang rape hit on someone is fucked up. Tomato tomahto. Sorry that you’re slow.
I’m not trying to have a go with you, but I read each comment you and Jax did (I know I’m a loser for doing that) but my thing is, even if you don’t agree with the content the author is putting out and still read it at the end of the day, why bash other people for reading it? Sure it’s some heavy stuff in both Manhwa and Novel, but some people do actually enjoy this kind of stuff because of how fiction it is.
I like the dark themes of stories so this story is my cup of tea, I like the art and like how it’s progressing, I never read the novel so I don’t know what’s gonna happen.
All I know is that, it’s okay not to like something, but to comment it just for everyone to see instead of just not reading it in the first place or even putting it to the side is still fucked up. A lot of people enjoy this story, (Again, still fiction) but once they finish and see your comment, people might have things to say. I hope you don’t take this comment the wrong way, but I feel like this was very unnecessary to post.
People have their own opinions which I get, but hating is just not it.
Idec if people dislike the manhwa bruh I dislike this manhwa half the time too. But damn is it crazy when people go on tirades about how problematic it is and how it’s normalizing bad things when these people themselves also subscribe to stuff with problematic themes. So what, one story is normalizing and another isn’t? Using this person’s very argument then BTTIM is also harmful because it “promotes the idea that a rapist can be rehabilitated and become a good partner”. Even if the character development is good it’s still a problematic trope. All of this shit is problematic man, it’s YAOI. And if I had to give Revenge a compliment of any kind it would be that Juyeon never “develops into a non abusive person” BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING. God bless.
i’ll be honest, i didn’t read all that so u might’ve back tracked but i believe you’ve misunderstood. read what you want and indulge in what you want as i originally stated. that’s not my issue. defending rape, be it fiction and definitely not in reality, is not okay. accusing people of being “sensitive” and “stupid” for being against it, be it fiction or reality, is NOT OKAY. neither ever will be. i chose to read this knowing it had rape. i’ve read other manhwa’s that also include it. the problem only partially lies on the story. there shouldn’t be any reason why people are trying to make excuses and downplay whatever the fuck this plot is. i appreciate how you admit you get your rocks off to content like this because it’s that simple. what’s unnecessary is to pretend as if the content is okay. i don’t care about what people have to say because i’m comfortable in my moral position and can’t be frightened with deflection. you’ve seen yourself if it wasn’t a fact i read bttim, we wouldn’t be here. i know, you know, and jax knows what’s right and what’s wrong. how i feel isn’t my argument, the proof is in the pudding.
Why the fuck do the goalposts keep moving lol. “Indulge in what you want” could’ve been that easy this whole time! You read your rapist to lovers manhwa and I read mine.
maybe you’re schizophrenic? i know i never said anything to u
Idk I think you’re the one who needs the deep reality check. Ik your head is flat.
they’re so babygirl i can’t get enough. i dread the day this ends, no glorifying rape, no gaslighting or manipulation, and real raw emotion. i’ll never find a read like this again man
"no glorifying rape" girl did u forget?
girl as a huge fan of this manhwa, are u being sarcastic?? although i do agree w you that this actually doesn't not glorify rape in a traditional sense, we could've honestly gone w/o the rape at least nakwon fully regrets his past actions and is making up to his best. mokhwa deserves all the love
no i didn’t and neither did the author let us. 5 chapters can’t go by without nakwon acknowledging his actions have consequences and mokhwa isn’t cozying up to him as if it never happened. could’ve gone without it yes, but this is how it should be handled.
“the sky is blue”
i come back and reread this once a month, may this love kidnap me and keep me in it’s basement
i love how he tian and mo have matching outfits and are wearing their rings, we’ve come so far in their relationship i’m tearing