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I'M HEARING YOU OUT ^^

I always said I wish we had seen a more in depth scene between the two of them when they got together that one time

Okey so am not crazy thank u

bad contact

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These cuties will always have my heart

Koi ga ochitara

I get your point, but not everyone can understand such broad ways of thinking, and dealing with readers like that is very exhausting, to the point where I feel ignoring them is better, Instead of being angry or upset and saying bad things, and as you said, everything has a reason, including why the author made the story like that. And everyone has different types of stories,

preach preach!! I’m tried of certain people acting like they’re sooo above everyone else. In no way shape or form any sane person would support grape, violence, and etc

Some people are too childish even when they're adult. And selfish that everything they dont like is bad.

It’s not about reading them, it’s about reading them for satisfaction because you sexuality these topics.

I look down on people who read shit like violent rape and then say it was hot because it’s just disturbing and indicative of an underlying issue. I read stuff with dark topics all the time and I don’t like it, it I don’t judge people who do. I begin to judge when those people say rape or abuse, mutilation and stuff like that is hot

to the 8 losers who disliked this comment,,, get fucked by life

Sure but it looks like a lot of people who do read those rape stories "enjoy" it because it's "hot". Not saying yall cant read dark stuff, just don't act like it's cute. If you come out reading a dark story feeling like the rape was cute then you're not necessarily understanding the point of rape. And tbh, not all authors implement rape correctly either so theres nuance in which stories do it well and which stories just do it for shock value and it doesn't add anything to the story. Who gets raped and has no trauma, no response, just "oh well, I was raped, lemme get with my rapist" like c'mon.

stfu

Ummm, no one says dark themes can't be explored in fiction but most of the bls these days is literally just rape porn etc and includes some sort of abusive/controlling behavour- there's no educational message at the end where the MC goes to trial and their abusive lover gets jailed, or they end up escaping and living their best life without their rapist, it ends with them ending up together in some sort of twisted love, ignoring the previous actions of the abusive LI.

oh no im sad :(

Awwww poor thing

Agree. Hope they get better soon. Amen

some users dont look down on others for reading "darker" manhwas. you js said there's a difference between normalising the rape & depicting it. I don't think anybody has a problem when a dark manhwa depicts rape. a good example is stigma, which is a pretty decent manhwa which shows rape & the effect it has on victims. but if you're gonna pull out, let's say, low tide in twilight now. where the seme rapes the uke, tries to force him into prostitution, emotionally abuses him, coerces him to become his sex slave, then rapes him again, & then the rapist & the victim have a 'happy ending', and nowhere is there even a hint of stockholm syndrome, then that's weird. I don't think that should be encouraged. authors only make a character a rapist nowadays so that they can give him a redemption arc, & people should open their eyes instead of just eating up rape slop every time. also, I don't think anybody goes to a person who reads stuff like this and attacks them personally. all I've seen is people having opinions in separate posts, and that's alright. just like how the whole of twitter is filled with (fictional) rape apologists.

"f-f-fiction doesn't affect me irl!!!!" proceeds to wish harm on someone's real life... yeah get help (not aimed at u OP)

Thank you all for giving your opinions, I appreciate your time. But I slightly disagree with some of you.
(BTW disagreeing with you doesn't mean your opinion is wrong or that I totally dismissed it. Don't be offended plz.)


I think people are mixing up “supporting rape” with “reading stories that include it.” I don’t support rape. I don’t think abuse is romantic. But fiction isn’t always about teaching morals, sometimes it’s just about showing how broken people interact, even in unhealthy ways.

Not every dark BL ends in healing or justice, and yeah, some of them end with the characters staying together. That doesn’t mean the story is promoting abuse. It just means it’s exploring a certain psychological dynamic. In Low Tide in Twilight, the ML definitely abuses the MC, but it’s an omegaverse, which means the world itself is built around power imbalance, instincts, and forced dynamics. That doesn’t excuse the abuse, it just explains why the story plays out the way it does. It’s not trying to be real-life. It’s showing how, in that fictional world, trauma bonding or twisted dependence can happen, and yeah, sometimes the ending reflects that, not some neat justice arc.

As for “rape only being used for redemption arcs”, that’s a really limited view. Some authors use those extremes to challenge readers emotionally, not to justify the character. The discomfort is part of the experience. And not every reader is sitting there thinking “omg I wish this was me.” A lot of us are just drawn to intense, flawed storytelling that makes us feel, even if it’s dark.

You don’t have to like it. No one’s forcing you to read it. But saying that people who do are blindly accepting abuse or “eating up rape slop” is unfair. There’s a big difference between enjoying fiction with dark themes and wanting that in real life. Most of us can tell the difference. While I do judge people that say they enjoyed certain manhwa like, no reason or sadistic beauty side story, I never go out of my way to judge them in front of their face or bully them. Because at the end of the day everyone has different taste.

Thank you u really do appreciate everyone interacting with my comment.

this is a too mature take for the internet where most people only see things black and white.

I do agree w u at some points. I definitely do at least like to think that people who enjoy these (in my opinion) shitty manhwas don't condone these things irl. but I disagree with the part where u say the author is trying to show trauma bonding in things like ltit. again this is my opinion, but the way the author wrote it did not show any sign of codependency / trauma bonding between a victim & their rapist. if it had, people wouldn't be calling the ml a 'green flag'. they wouldn't be rooting for the couple, calling them the cutest pair to ever exist. the reactions would be different. but hey, that's my opinion. also I'd like to say this again but imo authors nowadays really are fetishising rape. they dk how to take it seriously. & this is because readers brush it over & excuse it every chance they get. there's rape in manhwas where theres no need for it to exist (scammed & rammed im looking at u) and that baffles me, and I really do believe its a consequence of normalising it sm. but we can agree to disagree on that.

also, when people say stop attacking us for liking these manhwas... I don't think anybody is going out of their way to attack u. if u think others not agreeing w u is a form of attack then idk. although yes, I've seen people on both sides get death threats, either for fetishising rape or for disliking the way it's depicted, & well weirdos will always exist. but that's not something only one side goes through.

I think it's important to consider that authors aren’t always writing with the goal of making things morally clear-cut. Some authors might not label the dynamic as trauma bonding or codependency directly, but that doesn’t mean those elements aren’t intentionally there. Not every author spells things out, especially in darker or psychological stories. Some rely on the reader to pick up on the imbalance or emotional tension on their own. The problem is, once a story is released, readers project their own desires, fantasies, or morals onto it. That’s not always the author's fault. An author can write a disturbing or toxic relationship with nuance, but if readers choose to romanticize it or reduce it to fanservice, it changes how the story is received, not necessarily what the author meant. That gap between intent and reaction is part of what makes dark fiction so controversial, but also why it stays compelling to many people.
Tbh I do agree with your other points, not the very last one tho.
Yes the attacking can come from both sides. But let's be for real, people that read dark themes are the ones receiving it the most. For example you won't see someone hating on another reader because they read cherry blossoms after winter. While someone who dares to say they liked roses and champagne will get tons of hate. And my définition of hate is not: people that have different opinions than you. It's rather:
a strong feeling of intense dislike or hostility toward someone or something. It often involves anger, resentment, or a desire to avoid, hurt, or reject the target of that hate.
It can be directed at individuals, groups, ideas, or even objects, and it usually goes beyond simple disagreement or annoyance, involving deep emotional rejection or opposition.
So when I say stop hating I don't mean stop having different opinions.
If you just went under an edit of codename anastasia on tiktok you will most certainly find at least a bunch of people hating on readers of that manhwa. Not giving opinions but HATING as in wishing death, calling them names ect..

Lmao I liked ur message so I had to reply mb.

I understand why stories where the abuser and victim end up together can feel wrong to some people ,especially when there's no clear punishment or "lesson" at the end. But not every story is written to reflect real-world justice. Some are built around emotional transformation, not moral correction.

A lot of BL explores characters who are emotionally damaged, socially isolated, or mentally unstable. In these worlds, it's not always a judge or society that changes them, sometimes it's the first real connection they form. The idea that a person can shift because of love isn’t about excusing their past, it’s about showing how extreme emotions can trigger growth, regret, or even obsession that turns into genuine care.

And we do see this arc done well in certain stories. In "Painter of the Night," the ML starts out abusive, but as the story progresses, you see that his feelings evolve into something deeper and conflicted. He doesn’t magically become a good person, but the emotional shift is slow and painful, and that’s what makes it compelling.

The point isn’t that love fixes everything. It’s that love can create a turning point. Fiction gives us the freedom to explore how flawed people might grow in extreme, even uncomfortable, situations.

Also, a lot of BL main characters come from really dark or abusive backgrounds, some are raised around violence, like in Roses and Champagne, or grow up completely emotionally shut off. That doesn’t excuse their harmful actions, but it helps explain why their way of loving can be aggressive, controlling, or unhealthy at first. The story isn’t saying their behavior is okay, it’s showing how people with broken pasts often struggle to understand love in a healthy way. That tension is what the story explores, not what it celebrates.

Ilay and tay communicates in english, tay later on learn Germany for ilay but not perfect, ilay also learned korean , tay communicates with others even in english, raga and passion are correlated since after 114 in passion raga starts to know xinlu character passion is important to be read.

Thank u sm. But about raga ik its xinlu's story what I meant is should I read both passion and raga after chp 114 to fully understand what's happening in passion or is it not important cus am not really interested in xinlu's story now.

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