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I had to force myself through every chapter 2021 Manhua type shit

FRRR... Well written where?? Dang they must be new to this LOL

She's literally a mary sue

I agree all the thing you said. The logic is out of the window in this story and all I feel is anger.

Personally, I believe the sister being forgiven is justified. The brothers and dad can go suck in hell. The sister is still a teenager and a child, and while I won't go into full analysis mode here on her defense, I've left a previous comment doing exactly that if you're interested to check it out (I haven't commented that much since I left it, if you can't find it from scrolling here, then it should be ok my profile with the title "leave the sister out of the family shit/stop including the sister" something like that.

Basically, she's a sheltered child who was humiliated, betrayed, and reminded of her trauma all in one go. Ofc she would be emotional, ofc she would lash out. Even with the 20 or so chapters we see her regretting her actions and coming to the realisation of what the truth of things is. I'm not saying she should be forgiven just like that, because she did hurt MC in a major way - in order to be forgiven, one needs to show remorse and true change from their behaviour. I can see this story doing just that, with how it has seemed to handle things so far.

The brothers, meanwhile, are all adults who knew what they were doing. They were kids at one point, but they haven't been for a long time. They were hurting MC on purpose. The only one I can see some sort of true remorse from is the younger brother, but either way, I hope they won't be forgiven. The dad doesn-= even deserve a mention.

Your opinion is valid, and I do get your frustration with this trope, I just wanted to share my take on it. I personally feel as though this manhwa has portrayed a lot of things (esp regarding the female characters, at least some) in a relatively realistic light, instead of making them typically and cartoonishly evil - ie. the Duchess and the sister. It's not being black-and-white, the characters' feelings are complex and something people 100% could experience themselves.

Tbf, I don't know your age, but I could see someone on the younger side/similar age to the sister not understanding this and greatly disliking her. I'm in my 20s, so I look at anyone 18 or under as v much a child - not in a disrespectul way, more of a "been there done that" way. Not assuming this is true for you, just expressing thoughts that came to my mind.

I've got plenty of experience with trauma and intense emotional moments, especially as a teen, so that's why I can't really hate the sister for her reaction. I see she can change and make amends, and I want that to happen for the sake of them both. Hell, at this point I'd rather the sisters become their only family and both abandon the shitty men in their life ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Sorry for the long comment.

Lmao idm reading long comments(as long as ofc it isn't just a total brain rot..), so its all good. Also not offending u or anything, but I'm just gonna type out my raw opinion on this.

I do see ur point, but theu only problem is I don't just hate the others and exclude another just cuz of their age. Ofc I'm not gonna hate anyone younger than 15yrs old, but at the ripe age of 16?? Ur big enough to know better imo. Ig she got pampered and spoiled, but it's insane to me that her bubble is so SMALL that she never realized anything off?? Especially with the things her brothers told her all these years?? So weird. Well, not weird cuz she's truly the definition of a noble (brat) lady. She sees nothing beyond her own little princess bubble.

(Tw: Gonna mention my own experience about ruined family)
Also, my age now is DEF not close to the sister's age LMFAO not so fun fact, I was literally one year younger than her when I came to find out about my dad's second family. I could def relate to her stupidness, I was literally just in my bubble spoiled rotten cuz my family was "well off" and I just had no awareness at all. It's actually insane how I never even realized that those kids who were like 1 to 5yrs older and younger than me were actually my half siblings, despite them introducing themselves with my dad's family name, witnessed the weird dynamic their mom had with my mom, and etc. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that I got my fair share of living in my own bubble for so long, suddenly got hit with reality at the age of 15(still the worse time of my life), BUT I never lashed out to them for "ruining" my family. When I tell u that my family hit rock bottom, it literally DID. Everything changed to worse, just cuz of this little fact. Like for sure I had the anger, sadness, and confusion at first, but not once did I think to go to their faces and just say sht.

All in all, the sister is not blameless. Like fr, how is she this stupid despite the brother literally disrespecting the fl FACE TO FACE Infront of her too?? It was not as if it was hidden. Everyone and their mothers KNEW the fl's reputation and the author wants me to believe it somehow makes sense that the sister NEVERRR knew anything?? The answer is plain and simple. She's too naive and stupidly lived in her own little princess bubble. That's her biggest flaw, and no I don't just think everything is black and white, that's literally why I said this manhwa sucks. Cuz it's literally the same garbage plot, and the justification is always "the characters are complex!!!" I've seen way better stories with complex characters and it was written well. This manhwa is giving as if the author just jumped on the trend of pitiful fl getting shtted on by everyone, and somehow at the end they regret booohoo but their apology is worser...

I would've agreed with you that this manhwa has complex characters, but it's so.. idk what word that better explains this, but so simple and generic?? You mean to tell me when the brother found out her diary(typical...), they suddenly wanna apologize?? Not only that, the CP suddenly becomes possessive towards her?? The (dumbass) sister who witnessed every shade thrown to the sister, somehow never knew anything and when she found out, lashed out on her?? Was she sheltered, and never allowed to go outside or interact with anybody at all?? And then here comes the biggest dumbass of them all.. the father. Nothing about his character is complex, it's just "I was forced, and you are the result of that. So I must bring you home to my wife! But wait.. my wife is mad??? No no no! I fucking HATE you! Everyone, abuse the sht out of her." That's it. If anything, this whole manhwa is literally white and black LMFAO it's the most basic textbook "fl is hated by family" trope. Everyone is so childish and stupid. So I don't rlly see how they are "complex".

The only character that I can kinda agree with being complex is probably the duchess?? But then again, not rlly that complex. But it's a breathe of fresh air that she didn't actually hate the fl, though u can rlly feel a lot of emotions within her eyes whenever she looks at the fl. Just like what in my og comment, someone made a great point with the duchess's reasoning of divorce. She saw that man is no longer the man she married, and is now a monster. This is probably the only part that I felt my heart finally pump, cuz wow the duchess doesn't just dog sht on the mc too?? She literally feels so human and I love it. But ofc author had to kill them off BLURGH. I wanna see something unique and actual complex characters, so tired of these recycled stories.

I don't necessarily disagree with you on the sister's flaws, and these are fair points to make. In the end, I honestly don't care enough about this series to try and argue against anything, as it's possible I'll get bored of this at some point and stop reading anyways - it's not like this is one of my fav stories ever and i'm obsessed with it, not at all /gen ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Like I do agree with a lot of your points, but just don't feel strongly enough to get mad about it. Ofc your feelings are still totally valid! I also agree with what you said about the Duchess in the other reply.

Tbh I'm aware I'm just a person who thinks in too many shades of grey and tends to understand other's povs way too much, to the point that I can't even bring myself to hate, or even strongly dislike, people who've wronged me. (This to say, I find negative emotions, especially of anger/hatred v exhausting, and find it difficult to deal with them, rather opting for a casual "eh" feeling about things)

At first, I was going to write about some of my own traumas as a way of showing compassion by relating a similar experience (yeahhh, I'm AuDHD), but figured it isn't similar enough to yours to feel appropriate.

That said, I am sorry you had to go through that, I genuinely hope things are better for you now.

I'm not mad(I am but-) to the point where its affecting my life lol It's frustrating, but that's just what it is ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Tho ofc it doesn't stop me from sharing my opinion on this.
(Also a fellow neurodivergent? Hii!!)
And I do understand how u think, cuz I kinda used to think that way too, but idk something snapped in me one day and I got tired of excusing(not saying ur being dismissive or excusing the sister's character btw) questionable things fictional characters do, that I just comment down how I feel(or tell my friends/sister about it lol). Tho sometimes I get too passionate and it may seem as if I'm gasping from air LMFAO

Also, nw were fine now. Ofc, not like how it used to, but at least it showed me how reality rlly is and now I'm not a optimistic(more like ignorant) fool. Now I regret bringing up my trauma, that was so unnecessary blurhghhheihdjd