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Nim November 29, 2025 9:08 am

I'm contemplating if I should give a chance or not. Is it toxic or dragging?? If if u give me a spoiler it's fine. I just want to if they have a good dynamic or not. I don't want a strange dynamic like the third couple from Stranger than friends.

    Vic November 29, 2025 4:01 pm

    theres so much rape at the beginning but its kind of written off as “medical intervention” since the bottom will like die if it doesn’t get taken care of… (literally so useless and could have been simply not been there imo) … but if you ignore that part their dynamic is kinda cute and theres even suprisingly a lot of consent going on bc ML stops with everything that the bottom doesnt like

    Vic November 29, 2025 4:02 pm

    it’s toxic lowkey tho cause the ML wants to make the MC fall for him and it starts to work but MC is already a very lonely person so theres for sure gonna be a major heartbreak and chasing arc later on

    RARE INSIGHTS November 30, 2025 11:03 am

    Seme didn't intercourse with uke till he get his consent it's only his fingers doing all the work in uke ass so it could be SA but it's to help uke otherwise he could die.

    Uryal November 30, 2025 6:53 pm
    theres so much rape at the beginning but its kind of written off as “medical intervention” since the bottom will like die if it doesn’t get taken care of… (literally so useless and could have been simpl... Vic

    The first time they had s*x, Jooeon definitely asked for Pilsang's permission and even told him to push him away if he didn't want it. The only thing Jooeon did without Pilsang's consent was the fingering—intended to help him and save his life which was in danger. In the context of the story, it might be seen as somewhat similar to the kissing or mouth-to-mouth resuscitation during CPR, where someone is helped without explicit approval in an emergency situation.
    So far, apart from the twisted game to make Pilsang fall in love with him, Jooeon has genuinely been caring and gentle with Pilsang. He has also been listening to all his requests, such as not kissing during his heat and stopping the alarm, among other things.

    Vic November 30, 2025 7:17 pm
    The first time they had s*x, Jooeon definitely asked for Pilsang's permission and even told him to push him away if he didn't want it. The only thing Jooeon did without Pilsang's consent was the fingering—int... Uryal

    ???? Lmfao ??? You seem to have forgotten the chapter where he got drunk and was then dragged off, repeatedly begged and even cried for him to stop. It’s a “grey” situation since he’d die if he doesnt get treated but theres levels to this shit and that was definitely rape

    Uryal November 30, 2025 7:44 pm
    ???? Lmfao ??? You seem to have forgotten the chapter where he got drunk and was then dragged off, repeatedly begged and even cried for him to stop. It’s a “grey” situation since he’d die if he doesnt ... Vic

    I haven't forgotten, lol ! However, given the context, would you prefer it if he let him die?? The situation with the sianacin drug really shifts the perspective on everything.
    That doesn't mean consent isn't important, but context matters. Comparing that to outright assault ignores the complexity of emergency in the plot versus premeditated actions.
    So yeah, it’s a grey area, not a clear-cut case of assault. Sometimes, circumstances force actions that would otherwise be unacceptable, and understanding that nuance is crucial.

    Vic November 30, 2025 7:51 pm
    I haven't forgotten, lol ! However, given the context, would you prefer it if he let him die?? The situation with the sianacin drug really shifts the perspective on everything.That doesn't mean consent isn't im... Uryal

    Yeah and you seem to be missing this nuance youre talking about? Im telling you that it’s a grey zone but how in the fuck does that justify the fact that the ML made him literally cry and beg to stop? Like are we hearing ourselves rn ? He could have done that with less assault and more “pragmatically” since we’re talking about understanding nuance. Also notice how i said that there was a lot of rape at the beginning, meaning that ML seems to grasp the concept of consent later on… im so tired of yall refusing to accept when rape is rape. I like this story but i hate the rape parts and you can have your own opinion about how you feel. What you cant do is claim that there was no rape at all be so for real rn

    Vic November 30, 2025 7:55 pm
    I haven't forgotten, lol ! However, given the context, would you prefer it if he let him die?? The situation with the sianacin drug really shifts the perspective on everything.That doesn't mean consent isn't im... Uryal

    “would you prefer it if he let him die” lol i would prefer if he treated him and not “punished” him with sex since you want me to think about it as CPR, so a medical intervention

    Uryal November 30, 2025 8:18 pm
    “would you prefer it if he let him die” lol i would prefer if he treated him and not “punished” him with sex since you want me to think about it as CPR, so a medical intervention Vic

    The CPR comparison was meant to put things into perspective, but I wouldn’t want to keep harping on about it too much, since the sianacin case is a fictional scenario within a fictional story.

    And yes, treating him like a patient in need of help doesn’t justify crossing that line, but that’s essentially the theme of the story—about their developing love and jealousy as they are forced into sexual acts under the guise of a healing process and experimental purpose.
    If this doesn’t sit well with you or if that ruffles your feathers, then you might want to take it up with the author or consider stopping following the story, if it bothers you that much.

    Vic November 30, 2025 8:49 pm
    The CPR comparison was meant to put things into perspective, but I wouldn’t want to keep harping on about it too much, since the sianacin case is a fictional scenario within a fictional story. And yes, treati... Uryal

    Me; “i like this story but i dont like these particular elements of it” you: “it didnt happen and if it did it wasnt a big deal and if it was then you should stop reading and if you dont stop reading you should talk to the author and if you dont talk to the author you’re bothered and triggered” another lib owned *__* #endwokejoshisnow

    Uryal November 30, 2025 9:35 pm
    Me; “i like this story but i dont like these particular elements of it” you: “it didnt happen and if it did it wasnt a big deal and if it was then you should stop reading and if you dont stop reading you ... Vic

    Mmh... yeah, sure, if that's how you prefer to see it. I thought you were smarter than that, which is why I kept engaging, but hey—my bad. You do you. Just a reminder that everyone’s got their own perspective, and sometimes people get a bit too worked up over stories that aren’t even real.

Nim October 30, 2025 9:04 pm

At first when I started this manwha, I liked the dynamic of the shy guy and his hairstylist but things just kept going wrong and weird with every chap. The updates are so slow and the storyline keeps getting trashy. Danwoo can be called a naive person but in the era of internet and everything how can one be this dumb to the point where anyone can manipulate u to that level??!?!? He is weaker than those discriminated pitiful poor omegas atp. At least use some part of ur brain man. And both Mls are equally trashy, none them can called be better than the other. Which friend pushes himself onto another like that?? Did he ask for consent before trying to above it in Danwoo?? Almost made me puke fr. I'm gonna drop it. Not reading a certain hyped manga won't cause me anything tbh.

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