this is seriously so off-putting. this website contains tons of r19 stories. why do some of these kids feel the need to lecture adults on how we should be acting when consuming the content? are you kids okay? you shouldn't be out here consuming r19 in the first place and yet, here you are (which is fine) but you don't get to point fingers at us for causing you trauma when you read toxic shit and read our thoughts about it because you read it *knowing* it's not something you should consume. it's not these authors' fault that you wanted to read smut. no one's forcing you to. stay out of spaces that discuss toxic topics. there's not subliminal messaging in these stories because we can discern fiction from reality. this is such a tired topic and i can't believe this had to be said in the big year of 2025.
this is the 4th time somebody's bringing this topic up today lmao (me included) idk whats up w that. but i personally havent seen anyone 'police' others? other than ragebaiters, i dont think people go around saying this is what u should read, and this is what u shouldnt. UNLESS its stuff that is straight up rape porn or pedophilic content. if u mean critique on how certain topics are dealt with in fiction, then thats inevitable. EVERY piece of media is open to critique, why should yaoi be an exception? people dont complain about dark topics being present, they complain about how they're portrayed, and often fetishised and normalised in works. only after constant criticism can media evolve. u say stay out of spaces that discuss toxic topics, but discussion includes criticism of how things are handled, and not just positive things. its okay to be critical of certain plot points, voice them out, and yet still enjoy the rest of the work. and its okay to dislike someone else's opinion, disagree even, and not feel like they shouldn't have voiced it out in the first place. hope i made sense.
Samee.. im so tired of people leaving "critique" when they clearly only read the beginning of the story. Like, if you haven't read the entire chapter don't leave a critique. Judging a story based only on the beginning is unfair and unhelpful. Ive read well written stories with excellent character development that judged unfairly by people who cant be critical enough with what they read.I mean if from you gave your personal opinion on the story is fine but telling others who like those stories degregating words to define them is just shitty.
i do have a backbone. i've always been a dldr type of person when it comes to fiction. you can have your opinions and you're free to voice your criticism on the story - i've done that myself - but that's not the issue here. it starts to get weird when people are getting called "whores" and "retarded" for saying toxic stories should exist. where they attribute the cause of their trauma because they read toxic stories instead of blaming the perpetrators. that i think is the issue. you don't get to prance around here and start criticizing the moral compass of adults when we all know it's just fiction.
i'm not talking about critiquing stories. i'm all for that. i think it's nice to have discussions about that and discuss how authors could've approached this and that in the plot. all gucci. the issue for me lies in the fact that some of these people think they're on a moral high ground for not liking toxic stories. it's not discussion anymore when these people are calling readers "rapists", "groomers", "whores", "retarded", and whatever negative perceptions they have towards the readers. those words are being thrown around like they don't have any weight to them. it's scary to think that the word "pedophile" has been thrown around to accuse people when organizations against csam have been trying to educate us why those terms can't and should be used with caution. these people are just so performative that it irks me.
oh okay, i agree w u then ! i also don't think attacking anyone with such insults is okay no matter what they consume. i dont think consuming, for example a lot of rape content or dark abusive stories makes someone a rapist or an abuser lmao, idk if i agree with the morality thing bc although consuming such stuff is okay, when i see people actively enjoying rape and excusing it and glorifying it, saying how hot it is, then i dont think they have the same morals as a person who doesnt do all this, even if its fiction. but that's just me, a lot of people disagree with this take and that's okay. same with people who find fictional depictions of children hot, they might not be a pedophile irl but imo people normally shouldn't be attracted to children even in fiction. we can agree to disagree on this though, that's fine. again, i agree w u on how insulting people to this extent is wrong, im sorry if u had to go through that ! a lot of people here are extremely unhinged, on both sides of the coin, and its better to usually block such weirdos. tc =)
For anyone wondering she's talking about this thread
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/20338534/
I was calling those who defend rapist and attack others for having an opinion "whores" and this bitch thinks that fiction doesn't reflect real life moral value even if you defend a rapist character so you know who i was calling whore and how she twisted what i said to beg for attention. I don't regret calling you a whore btw you can go and cry about it to the other bitches who defend rapists .
i defend fiction as just being fiction because it's important to have ethical and emotional compartmentalization when dealing with fiction. i know how important fiction is as an outlet to explore explore uncomfortable, taboo, or morally gray situations safely. this doesn't mean to ignore harmful messaging but it does mean allowing space for exploration in fiction without immediately jumping to moral condemnation. if you can't accept that, there's nothing i can do. mind you, you were the ones calling people retarded if they disagreed with your opinion.
So you agree that you indeed defend fictional rape and rapist and stop acting like you jinx fans are any better they were calling worst names and even used someone's trauma to justify the rape and you can come and suck my dick but i still won't regret calling rape apologists retarded and btw you called me 12 first when I am 18+, according to you whoever question the morals of those readers who defend the rapist is a kid and you think you're right. And I think those who defend rape and rapist in the name of fiction are retarded and i think I am right. Now go and cry to your mama about how you got called names after defending a fictional rapist. Also you can take that word "fiction" And shove it up to your ass if you're that much of an activist of defending fictional rape.
How it feels like to be this much brain-dead?? It was never about reading something problematic in fiction,i am talking about defending the act and the criminal. You can read fictional stuff involving rape murder horror all you want but you can't defend the act,you can't defend the rapist,the murderer you can't defend the criminal even if it's fictional. And if you do that reveals your inner thoughts about how you perceive the act .That's what i was saying. Don't reply anymore it's a waste of time arguing with you
use common sense, there’s a difference between fiction representing real world themes as harsh as rape victims and straight up romanticizing it/portraying it to feed to fetishes. people can and will call you out for being so weirdly defensive, read what you want but again you’re constantly open to others commentary. if you feel attacked by that then that says more about you then anyone else.
i'm looking for an omegaverse manga where they already had an established relationship in high school and they planned to be mates once they get their secondary gender results. the seme manifested as an alpha and the uke manifested as a beta if i'm not mistaken. this doesn't deter their relationship tho but it has always been in the back of the uke's mind. they still continue their relationship until adulthood and the seme works for a pharmaceutical company i think or was a doctor (i forgot but i'm pretty sure it was in the medical field). the seme meets his fated pair and that was bascially the main conflict because the uke wants to let go but the seme wasn't because he loved the uke, not his fated pair.
okay i got three stories mixed in my description lol but the one i was looking for was https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/shounen_no_kyoukai/ (handkerchief thing)
the established relationship story i was talking about was: https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/torokeru_hodo_ni_kamaretai/ no the guy didn't manifest as a beta just he didn't mark his omega for a long time
the uke wanting to break up part: https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/romantic_lament/
i'm still anxious by the fact that taekang's unit is bugged and they haven't figured it out yet!
Wait I totally forgot about that too!!
When did that happen? Do you know the chapter? I'll like to revisit to refresh my memory
Oh shit (⊙…⊙ ) I forgot about that (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
i can't recall the specific chapter but i think it was a little after they visited the orphanage. it was when yigon was feeling anxious then he went to the restaurant(?) that taekang had his meeting.
The bug was in one of Yigon's coat, surely it went through a washing machine since then.
hopefully.