It's a fictional story. If you're really this upset about drawings on a piece of paper please get outside and do something meaningful with your lives. Let people enjoy what they want. If you don't like, simply don't consume it and move on. Also, stop being racist and saying "what's up with these koreans"....cause ya, bad look.
I already knew what this one was gonna look like from the raws lol the people complaining here haven't even paid to read it so what's leaving a bad review here going to do literally just click off the page
I already knew what this one was gonna look like from the raws lol the people complaining here haven't even paid to read it so what's leaving a bad review here going to do literally just click off the page strawberrytoast
I honestly think it's people who can't separate fiction from reality, thinking that people who enjoy story that happens to have dark themes (like rape, murder, etc.) must have these same likes, and partake in, rape, murder, etc. irl. And real, just click off lmao it's not hard.
I honestly think it's people who can't separate fiction from reality, thinking that people who enjoy story that happens to have dark themes (like rape, murder, etc.) must have these same likes, and partake in, ... AquilatheEagle
I get that some are saying it rlly isn't portrayed as rape but geonmu is ? kind of a weirdo in a sense that it worries me how little he values his safety (tending to what I'd consider self harm) and teo is very mentally ill (and used go getting it done to himself, AND he's so rich he must be used to getting off the hook easy for most things anyway) so coming from them it didn't surprise me how the events unfolded lol
I get that some are saying it rlly isn't portrayed as rape but geonmu is ? kind of a weirdo in a sense that it worries me how little he values his safety (tending to what I'd consider self harm) and teo is very... strawberrytoast
Fr, I felt it was relatively easy to see where it was going.
If you’re really upset by people commenting what they think on an online platform then I think you should take your own advice and do something meaningful with your life. Let people comment what they want, simply ignore the comment and move on
literally, like no one's forcing you to read stories with SA if it's that off putting to you. It's fine to feel disappointed but it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be. Just move on to some other manhwa. And honestly, I didn't expect that people would start outing themselves as racists, acting as if white people don't write rapey scenes all the time too
If you’re really upset by people commenting what they think on an online platform then I think you should take your own advice and do something meaningful with your life. Let people comment what they want, si... FujoshiAi
Nah see I would if people with these conservative views wouldn't feel the need to cancel or shame people who actually enjoy this content. The number of times I've seen people post "hey actually this isn't real" to only get dogpiled after by so many of these purists is actually baffling, and frankly sad. The yaoi community has always had its problems, but hey if you enjoyed some incest and another person didn't, that was that. The latter wouldn't send death threats to the former or sick their friends on them. This community has become honestly embarrassing because of people who feel they need to scream about something they find icky and makes them uncomfortable, and force it onto others in the form of pushing those of us who have been around forever, out
literally, like no one's forcing you to read stories with SA if it's that off putting to you. It's fine to feel disappointed but it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be. Just move on to some oth... rancid-racc
This is just it. There are these kinds of scenes in literally every form of media, western or eastern. It's not like it's *only* asian people. Also, if you're going to be racist then why are you consuming content from the people you're racist against?
You could literally use any argument besides "it's fiction why u getting emotional"
Bro, what do you think it's for? People get emotionally invested in good stories. That's normal. People cry over them, they hate characters, etc. Idk why I even have to explain the basic concept of entertainment to you.
And while of course Koreans are not the only ones who write stories like this, they are definitely going way harder on the torture porn. I've never seen so much rape in my life before this website was flooded with manhwas. Yes, it's fiction, but it's still hard to see? That's also normal as long as you're not desensitized to it.
If they at least added some content warning somewhere, maybe people wouldn't even waste their time with this only to get disappointed. But I guess this has gone out of fashion now
literally, like no one's forcing you to read stories with SA if it's that off putting to you. It's fine to feel disappointed but it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be. Just move on to some oth... rancid-racc
if people knew beforehand they wouldn't have started the story in the first place. It came out of nowhere, ruined the characters, and potentially triggered some people who may have some related trauma.
Yes, many people like me are gonna drop the story here, not even because of the rape itself, but because I hate the characters now.
The problem is that it's really hard to find manhwas without rape or dub-con nowadays. It's everywhere, and I barely see content warnings in any of them
if people knew beforehand they wouldn't have started the story in the first place. It came out of nowhere, ruined the characters, and potentially triggered some people who may have some related trauma. Yes, man... Leilei
Sure, I get being blindsided by a story, but if you're reading a series that has adult themes like sex, then ya, these things are bound to happen. You're allowed to drop it if you want, no one is saying you can't.
And that last statement is absolutely not true and incredibly laughable. I linked a "green flag bls" list in my other post, but you can literally go on google and find lists of them. I know people tend to just see "oh pretty men kissing" and go read the story, which cool, but *you* are the one who is putting your comfort on the line by going into a story blindly, or one that updates weekly. And one thing about the trigger warnings I didn't mention in my last comment. YOU are responsible for curating your online experience. No one owes you censorship of their creations. That is an incredibly entitled and self-centered take and I hope you grow out of it.
if people knew beforehand they wouldn't have started the story in the first place. It came out of nowhere, ruined the characters, and potentially triggered some people who may have some related trauma. Yes, man... Leilei
and I did say it's okay to feel disappointed? I'm generally not happy about rape and SA in fiction either if it's unexpected or doesn't get treated with the gravity it should be treated with. The point was that at the end of the day, it is fiction. It's not so big of an issue that it justifies people enabling racist views, a fucking moral panic or pro-censorship bs because of it.
Sure, I get being blindsided by a story, but if you're reading a series that has adult themes like sex, then ya, these things are bound to happen. You're allowed to drop it if you want, no one is saying you can... AquilatheEagle
I really wouldn't call it being entitled. Warning people of extremes is normal in this world. I guess if authors hate their readers that much they can just leave it be, but they shouldn't complain about not making money because people rather read their work illegally then.
Okay so show all the cruel things getting posted openly without any warning. X is already doing well in that regard ig. No warning labels of products, no seizure warnings. Just let people freely run into their doom, sure. I'm not saying to ban it or whatever, a small warning is all people ask for. If that's entitlement to you then fine, I'm entitled idc
And saying to always expect rape just because characters have sex is a very wild take. I should be able to read crime stories etc, without worrying about being confronted by torture porn left and right. Idk why that's somehow the new standard now, that's crazy
Those lists are usually very short, and rarely up to date. You just need to go to the front page in the yaoi section and you get bombarded by toxic waste. I'm not saying it's impossible, but they are definitely hard to find nowadays. Especially since there's nothing but the cover to really judge if it's another rape porn or not. And since you expect us to only read completed stories, there's barely anything left to read.
Personally, I'm not even upset about the rape itself, it's the writing around it that has most people upset. At least knowing it was going to happen would've made me lower my expectations for the seme and would have missed me off much less, and wouldn't have ruined the whole thing for me.
I really wouldn't call it being entitled. Warning people of extremes is normal in this world. I guess if authors hate their readers that much they can just leave it be, but they shouldn't complain about not mak... Leilei
I can tell you weren't around during the times of LiveLeak and Ogrish lol. But I said its entitled to get others to cater to YOU. YOU are the one responsible for YOUR internet experience. No one else is. The definition of entitlement is "believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges and special treatment", that's sounds quite like what you're expecting of people. And the whole thing with trigger warnings is a courtesy, it's not a requirement.
And what do you mean these "authors hate their readers" they literally don't? They wouldn't keep making stories if people didn't consume or like them. Why would an author hate their fans? The consumption of their stories by fans is their literal livelihood. That's why you see authors profusely thanking their fans in their author notes at the end of season, but I'm assuming you don't read those because you have clearly shown you don't care for authors, thinking everything they do is a personal attack. Also, the reading work legally thing. Are you serious. Sure, I'm on this website because there are works that I cannot find, but once series get an official translation I *always* pay. I don't care if the story goes a way I don't like. I just stop paying. I enjoyed it up to a point so why shouldn't the author get my money. Once again, your naive and ignorant entitlement is showing.
Also, not caring about your entitlement is disgusting. To proudly say that is narcissistic in the absolute least. Just say you don't care about others and only care about yourself.
I never said to always expect rape, learn reading comprehension. I'm saying ADULT stories contain ADULT themes. Rape is an ADULT theme. If you are a child reading an ADULT story, then don't scream and cry when an ADULT thing happens. Who cares if it comes out of nowhere, the author writes stories that they want, and in 18+ stories, children aren't their main audience.
And who cares if the lists aren't up to date or short, if you want a fluffy and "unproblematic" (read: stories for children) bls, then follow those lists, or go to the shounen ai section. Stories that authors work hard on are not toxic waste. This is another incredibly blind and selfish thing to say. Once again, you think authors have to cater to you. If you think fluffy things are "hard to find" then don't read yaoi. Easy. No one is forcing you
And my dude you love putting words into others mouths huh? I never said I expect people to read completed stories. I said that if you want to read stories then come out weekly, YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF AT RISK. Please pay attention in school and learn reading comprehension. If you are too fragile to handle this risk, that is not mine or anyone else's problem.
And that's cute, going into a story expecting the author to tell you exactly what will happen beforehand so you'll go into a story not liking a character. You miss the point of what a story is. Stories have a beginning, middle, and end. It is not a "here's a one page summary of the entire story before you read it". You said in an earlier post that people can hate characters. Yeah. Hate usually happens though when there is a build up and then they do something disappointing.
and I did say it's okay to feel disappointed? I'm generally not happy about rape and SA in fiction either if it's unexpected or doesn't get treated with the gravity it should be treated with. The point was that... rancid-racc
100% agree. The amount of people who are racist and peo-censorship is scary as hell.
It's a fictional story. If you're really this upset about drawings on a piece of paper please get outside and do something meaningful with your lives. Let people enjoy what they want. If you don't like, simply don't consume it and move on. Also, stop being racist and saying "what's up with these koreans"....cause ya, bad look.
I already knew what this one was gonna look like from the raws lol the people complaining here haven't even paid to read it so what's leaving a bad review here going to do literally just click off the page
I honestly think it's people who can't separate fiction from reality, thinking that people who enjoy story that happens to have dark themes (like rape, murder, etc.) must have these same likes, and partake in, rape, murder, etc. irl. And real, just click off lmao it's not hard.
I get that some are saying it rlly isn't portrayed as rape but geonmu is ? kind of a weirdo in a sense that it worries me how little he values his safety (tending to what I'd consider self harm) and teo is very mentally ill (and used go getting it done to himself, AND he's so rich he must be used to getting off the hook easy for most things anyway) so coming from them it didn't surprise me how the events unfolded lol
Fr, I felt it was relatively easy to see where it was going.
If you’re really upset by people commenting what they think on an online platform then I think you should take your own advice and do something meaningful with your life. Let people comment what they want, simply ignore the comment and move on
literally, like no one's forcing you to read stories with SA if it's that off putting to you. It's fine to feel disappointed but it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be. Just move on to some other manhwa. And honestly, I didn't expect that people would start outing themselves as racists, acting as if white people don't write rapey scenes all the time too
Nah see I would if people with these conservative views wouldn't feel the need to cancel or shame people who actually enjoy this content. The number of times I've seen people post "hey actually this isn't real" to only get dogpiled after by so many of these purists is actually baffling, and frankly sad. The yaoi community has always had its problems, but hey if you enjoyed some incest and another person didn't, that was that. The latter wouldn't send death threats to the former or sick their friends on them. This community has become honestly embarrassing because of people who feel they need to scream about something they find icky and makes them uncomfortable, and force it onto others in the form of pushing those of us who have been around forever, out
This is just it. There are these kinds of scenes in literally every form of media, western or eastern. It's not like it's *only* asian people. Also, if you're going to be racist then why are you consuming content from the people you're racist against?
You could literally use any argument besides "it's fiction why u getting emotional"
Bro, what do you think it's for? People get emotionally invested in good stories. That's normal. People cry over them, they hate characters, etc. Idk why I even have to explain the basic concept of entertainment to you.
And while of course Koreans are not the only ones who write stories like this, they are definitely going way harder on the torture porn. I've never seen so much rape in my life before this website was flooded with manhwas. Yes, it's fiction, but it's still hard to see? That's also normal as long as you're not desensitized to it.
If they at least added some content warning somewhere, maybe people wouldn't even waste their time with this only to get disappointed. But I guess this has gone out of fashion now
if people knew beforehand they wouldn't have started the story in the first place. It came out of nowhere, ruined the characters, and potentially triggered some people who may have some related trauma.
Yes, many people like me are gonna drop the story here, not even because of the rape itself, but because I hate the characters now.
The problem is that it's really hard to find manhwas without rape or dub-con nowadays. It's everywhere, and I barely see content warnings in any of them
Sure, I get being blindsided by a story, but if you're reading a series that has adult themes like sex, then ya, these things are bound to happen. You're allowed to drop it if you want, no one is saying you can't.
And that last statement is absolutely not true and incredibly laughable. I linked a "green flag bls" list in my other post, but you can literally go on google and find lists of them. I know people tend to just see "oh pretty men kissing" and go read the story, which cool, but *you* are the one who is putting your comfort on the line by going into a story blindly, or one that updates weekly. And one thing about the trigger warnings I didn't mention in my last comment. YOU are responsible for curating your online experience. No one owes you censorship of their creations. That is an incredibly entitled and self-centered take and I hope you grow out of it.
and I did say it's okay to feel disappointed? I'm generally not happy about rape and SA in fiction either if it's unexpected or doesn't get treated with the gravity it should be treated with. The point was that at the end of the day, it is fiction. It's not so big of an issue that it justifies people enabling racist views, a fucking moral panic or pro-censorship bs because of it.
I really wouldn't call it being entitled. Warning people of extremes is normal in this world. I guess if authors hate their readers that much they can just leave it be, but they shouldn't complain about not making money because people rather read their work illegally then.
Okay so show all the cruel things getting posted openly without any warning. X is already doing well in that regard ig. No warning labels of products, no seizure warnings. Just let people freely run into their doom, sure. I'm not saying to ban it or whatever, a small warning is all people ask for. If that's entitlement to you then fine, I'm entitled idc
And saying to always expect rape just because characters have sex is a very wild take.
I should be able to read crime stories etc, without worrying about being confronted by torture porn left and right. Idk why that's somehow the new standard now, that's crazy
Those lists are usually very short, and rarely up to date. You just need to go to the front page in the yaoi section and you get bombarded by toxic waste. I'm not saying it's impossible, but they are definitely hard to find nowadays. Especially since there's nothing but the cover to really judge if it's another rape porn or not. And since you expect us to only read completed stories, there's barely anything left to read.
Personally, I'm not even upset about the rape itself, it's the writing around it that has most people upset. At least knowing it was going to happen would've made me lower my expectations for the seme and would have missed me off much less, and wouldn't have ruined the whole thing for me.
I can tell you weren't around during the times of LiveLeak and Ogrish lol. But I said its entitled to get others to cater to YOU. YOU are the one responsible for YOUR internet experience. No one else is. The definition of entitlement is "believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges and special treatment", that's sounds quite like what you're expecting of people. And the whole thing with trigger warnings is a courtesy, it's not a requirement.
And what do you mean these "authors hate their readers" they literally don't? They wouldn't keep making stories if people didn't consume or like them. Why would an author hate their fans? The consumption of their stories by fans is their literal livelihood. That's why you see authors profusely thanking their fans in their author notes at the end of season, but I'm assuming you don't read those because you have clearly shown you don't care for authors, thinking everything they do is a personal attack. Also, the reading work legally thing. Are you serious. Sure, I'm on this website because there are works that I cannot find, but once series get an official translation I *always* pay. I don't care if the story goes a way I don't like. I just stop paying. I enjoyed it up to a point so why shouldn't the author get my money. Once again, your naive and ignorant entitlement is showing.
Also, not caring about your entitlement is disgusting. To proudly say that is narcissistic in the absolute least. Just say you don't care about others and only care about yourself.
I never said to always expect rape, learn reading comprehension. I'm saying ADULT stories contain ADULT themes. Rape is an ADULT theme. If you are a child reading an ADULT story, then don't scream and cry when an ADULT thing happens. Who cares if it comes out of nowhere, the author writes stories that they want, and in 18+ stories, children aren't their main audience.
And who cares if the lists aren't up to date or short, if you want a fluffy and "unproblematic" (read: stories for children) bls, then follow those lists, or go to the shounen ai section. Stories that authors work hard on are not toxic waste. This is another incredibly blind and selfish thing to say. Once again, you think authors have to cater to you. If you think fluffy things are "hard to find" then don't read yaoi. Easy. No one is forcing you
And my dude you love putting words into others mouths huh? I never said I expect people to read completed stories. I said that if you want to read stories then come out weekly, YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF AT RISK. Please pay attention in school and learn reading comprehension. If you are too fragile to handle this risk, that is not mine or anyone else's problem.
And that's cute, going into a story expecting the author to tell you exactly what will happen beforehand so you'll go into a story not liking a character. You miss the point of what a story is. Stories have a beginning, middle, and end. It is not a "here's a one page summary of the entire story before you read it". You said in an earlier post that people can hate characters. Yeah. Hate usually happens though when there is a build up and then they do something disappointing.
100% agree. The amount of people who are racist and peo-censorship is scary as hell.