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suibianboy July 22, 2025 8:58 pm

I can't believe people ship awra with ramdane , the guy locked him inside a ship, tied him up and assaulted him... he would still be impriosing him if he could lol just stoped because it involved the royal family. Hate the guy

    suibianboy July 22, 2025 10:41 pm

    *imprisoning | so many typos x.x

    Lenyuu July 27, 2025 7:58 pm

    Yo, didnt literally wolsey do the same thing lol, in the name of love i will trick you into marrying me, drug you, rape multiple times and force you to pretend to be a woman in world where women were possessions and lower than men in any setting only so you can protect your twin (that is not in any danger and living with a man that loves her and that loved her a way before marriage plot)
    And its not like I like awra, its just a type of manga where you cannot have any kind of healthy wholesome relationships and tbh if ramdan choose awra they at least would be more on equal standing and kind of free - which is something wolsey cant really give him due to his responsibilities

    Lenyuu July 27, 2025 8:01 pm

    And imo i dont want ramdan with anyone, i wanted him to stay with luka for a while, learn to travel the world, visit this nomad people and find a purpose in his life
    Maybe reminiscing about his love with wolsey, maybe having some flings but still being himself for himself not a property cuz hes a pretty bottom

    suibianboy July 28, 2025 11:43 am
    And imo i dont want ramdan with anyone, i wanted him to stay with luka for a while, learn to travel the world, visit this nomad people and find a purpose in his lifeMaybe reminiscing about his love with wolsey,... Lenyuu

    Yeah wolsey also did some pretty awful stuff to randame and that's why I did not mention him or tried to defend him in my post (he is definitely also problematic). It just seems to me that because people hate wolsey they automatically overlook everything awra has done just to put him as the “perfect/good guy” in opposition to wolsey. And based on everything awra did, ramdane would definitely not have freedom and be on equal footing. It's “equal” until ramdane opposes him. Which happened and awra choose to imprison ramdane (didn't allow him to continue his journey). He even is partly to blame for randame's forced return and reunion with wolsey. He never truly listened to ramdane once.

    I know that with those kind of stories we can't expect a wholesome healthy relationship, there will be problematic things and that's why I try to focus on what the characters are feeling and want to do with their lives and who to be with (in this case ramdane truly loves wolsey, we liking it or not). To me the most important thing is ramdane's freedom (to choose whoever he wants to be with and where he thinks he belongs to). I personally don't think he is making the best decision but if he is happy and satisfied, I will respect that).

    I agree with you in wanting ramdane to keep looking for the nomad people. It appeared to be such an interesting plot! I will be sad if this is not mentioned in the future.

    soona August 6, 2025 9:09 am
    And imo i dont want ramdan with anyone, i wanted him to stay with luka for a while, learn to travel the world, visit this nomad people and find a purpose in his lifeMaybe reminiscing about his love with wolsey,... Lenyuu

    Yeah I also wanted that to be honest, I expected him to live a little and learn about himself and I felt like it could have serve wolsey development yk like it would have been a good lesson for him to understand ramdan self agency cuz he really be too arrogant and entitled sometimes

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