PachiPachi

o damn i meant the chapter after this chapter after that chapter is sooo goood

Both are victims of mental illness...

Both are quite clearly victims of abusive families. Sangwoo's started when he was a child, and Bum was sexually and emotionally abused by his uncle when he was an adult, but presumably this started when he began living with him.

Does that mean they both aren't criminals, no, but you are coming off as a bit offensive to call someone "crazy" or "psychotic" when they are victims of abuse, have mental illness and this is what led to their current behaviour.

Agree, agree

Psychosis--A mental disorder characterised by a disconnection from reality.

Behavioural: disorganised behaviour, aggression, agitation, hostility, hyperactivity, hypervigilance, restlessness, self-harm, social isolation, lack of restraint, or persistent repetition of words or actions

Cognitive: thought disorder, confusion, belief that an ordinary event has special and personal meaning, disorientation, racing thoughts, slowness in activity, thoughts of suicide, unwanted thoughts, difficulty thinking and understanding, or false belief of superiority

Mood: anger, anxiety, apathy, excitement, feeling detached from self, general discontent, limited range of emotions, loneliness, or nervousness

Crazy-mentally deranged, especially as manifested in a wild or aggressive way.

as crazy/wired as this may sound to you hun i'm a psychologist you'd be shocked by how many people go through crazy shit and come out ok and calling someone psychotic and crazy isnt offensive...... its like saying that its offensive to call a cat with white fur.. white ╮(￣▽￣)╭ you get me??

i mean its a manga i think you should examine why you find my opinon over fake characters offensive(〜￣△￣)〜

Sorry, but your use of stigmatising language like "crazy" makes me think you are not a working psychologist as such discrimination could lead to disciplinary action, and also the term is diagnostic but a slur. Calling any mental illness "psychotic" also is a bit ridiculous.

*not diagnostic

Sorry, missed out a word there.

If he/she is a psychologist then I doubt this person’s skills and professionalism. I’ve never met a professional who talks/writes likes this. Really. It’s childish.

They maybe both victems, but there still criminals too. There are allot of victems who turn out good and live a good and honest live. In the end you yourself are responsible for your own actions. Saying that there only victems is an insult to those who actually make something of their life.

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i dont even know what your trying to argue.. what are you trying to argue??
i am a working psychologist, i can say crazy if i want to... i aint working right now and calling a person with a mental illness psychotic is used a lot .... like a lot.....??????

not everything in this world has to be offensive, does it??
i mean its your point of view but you should try and ask yourself why this bothers you so much

I don't think anyone is discounting the fact both are criminals, from the plots perspective though, their background influences their current behaviour. Sorry I know you were replying to someone else, but it is a bit repetitive just reading all these comments that are essentially just stating the obvious, it's even laid out clearly in the title "killing" "stalking" . Part of any murder investigation is to understand what led to that act, it doesn't mean supporting crime, it's about understanding why something happened, what failures in say this case child protection services, the police, Sangwoo's school that failed to see the symptoms of an abused child suffering mental illness, the police in their failures over numerous murder investigations and not referring Bum to psychiatric care after he ended up in jail because he self harmed in public etc, understanding and then putting in place tighter safeguards in order to prevent such crimes from happening again ideally is how the current legal system operates.

my english isn't that good, sorry im trying....

llamar a una persona que tiene una psicosis, psicótica no es ofensivo es normal y sí, es cierto, no es profesional llamar a una persona loca, pero estoy en todo mi derecho de hacerlo, estoy leyendo un manga y soy libre de expresarme de personajes ficticios como se me dé la pinche gana, puta madre, que les pasa （￣へ￣）THEY ARE NOT REAL

Seriously you are coming off quite childish, and not of the standards expected from anyone with a reasonable understanding of mental health. Stop it please.

You are a psychologist and I know you know better than me. But I don't agree with the "calling someone psychotic or crazy isn't offensive". Do you happen to call your patients crazy right in front of their faces? And it doesn't offend them? I don't think so. I do believe it does impact on their mental health. It's kinda rude way to address someone with mental issues. Just my opinion tho. No hate. Just my opinion.

what no, of course not, know that i agree to be offensive.. who would do that.
look its a manga and they are fictional characters i thought i could call them crazy without a problem.
yes calling a patiant crazy is a huge no no
but the word psycotic at least in spanish is used "trastorno psicótico" and i use it, i dont find that word offensive
anyway i could explain everything... i wont... but i think it could just be the diffrance in our languaje ╥﹏╥

language*

┑(￣Д ￣)┍ k. i agree this is pointless have a good day (●'◡'●)ﾉ

Im not really on about your OP. Since most people here call them crazy and stuff anyways. You are not the only one. I understand you might have difficulty expressing yourself. I am too since english is not my language. I was just taken aback when you said calling someone crazy is not offensive. But if you don't really mean it like that, then it's ok.