girls r like waaa cheating gross!!!!@!@111!!!! and then proceed to fetishize gay people and rape and masturbate to it. fucking hate straight ppl sometimes
girls r like waaa cheating gross!!!!@!@111!!!! and then proceed to fetishize gay people and rape and masturbate to it. fucking hate straight ppl sometimes gremlin
Dude is not real and Yaoi tends to bend the laws of the real world and don’t come after a majority of people just cause of your opinions a lot of people are like what you are describing and I admit a lot of it is crazy shit but don’t use that group of people under the same description of the majority
Dude is not real and Yaoi tends to bend the laws of the real world and don’t come after a majority of people just cause of your opinions a lot of people are like what you are describing and I admit a lot of i... Jazzy
Cheating you made a choice Raping you dont have choice. It hurts to be cheated like you are annoyed. Your heart hurts. You feel betrayed. Demirah
coming from a victim of cocsa, both are terrible, however rape is much much worse and theres a reason rapists are in prison while cheaters arent. rape traumatizes people and fucks up their life no matter what, while being cheated on can fuck up a persons life however you have control of moving on or not, rape is not something to compare to infidelity or adultery
coming from a victim of cocsa, both are terrible, however rape is much much worse and theres a reason rapists are in prison while cheaters arent. rape traumatizes people and fucks up their life no matter what, ... gremlin
Yep is the worst. But cheating relates people . A lot of people. Because everyone is in a relationship or were in a relationship. But raping story isnt that relatable for some. Thats why people tend to give low ratings to cheating. Cause it hunts them. reliving those experience and etc. they put there shoes on those people been cheated. S
Yep is the worst. But cheating relates people . A lot of people. Because everyone is in a relationship or were in a relationship. But raping story isnt that relatable for some.Thats why people tend to give low ... Demirah
oh, i get it now. fetishists projecting themselves onto characters
if ur a girl and u specifically get off 2 mlm then congrats: fetishism gremlin
lmao no. Getting off to yaoi or gay porn does NOT mean that you fetishize gay people. It's the same with guys *or girls* getting off to lesbian porn or yuri. And it's smut. It's meant to arouse you idk what you expected. As long as you don't mix fiction with reality for example liking a guy just because he's gay or blatantly staring at two guys on a date to watch for your own personal satisfaction to the discomfort of said guys.
lmao no. Getting off to yaoi or gay porn does NOT mean that you fetishize gay people. It's the same with guys *or girls* getting off to lesbian porn or yuri. And it's smut. It's meant to arouse you idk what you... get me acnh
men getting off to lesbians: bad women getting off to gays: bad its not that complicated
that's all you have to say? Not even a reason as to why it's bad? It's a preference. Get over it get me acnh
describing it as a preference is homophobic lmfao, its not a pornography genre, its just a sexual attraction to people of the same sex/gender. its not some sexy special epic forbidden fruit concept for women or men to get off to, its just how people are. its not special, gay people are not special or different, and we are literally the same as everyone else. ostracizing gays doesnt solve anything and rather than blindly defending fetishism and treating homosexuality as a porn genre you should think abt whats wrong with it
describing it as a preference is homophobic lmfao, its not a pornography genre, its just a sexual attraction to people of the same sex/gender. its not some sexy special epic forbidden fruit concept for women or... gremlin
gay porn IS a pornography genre? What else would it be?
describing it as a preference is homophobic lmfao, its not a pornography genre, its just a sexual attraction to people of the same sex/gender. its not some sexy special epic forbidden fruit concept for women or... gremlin
Shorthand, if you think it is responsible and normal for you to behave a certain way towards other demographics, then you should be comfortable with them behaving the same way towards yours. Showing two people of the same gender having sex for sexual pleasure of the viewer is porn just as it would be if the performers were people of the same gender instead. Getting off to what it meant to be porn is not fetishization, at least not in the social justice sense. Gay people enjoy straight porn just as straight people enjoy gay porn.
Thinking about actual gay people the same way you think about the sex objects in the porn you enjoy is fetishism. Sexualizing interactions between two people of the same gender outside of the context of porn is fetishism. Shipping (the sexual kind) is fetishizing gayness, reading gay porn is not. Just like a hetero person deriving sexual pleasure from images or videos of people of opposite sex intended for the purpose is not considered fetishizing actual men or women, but assuming as if any time a person of the opposite sex is nice to you indicates sexual interest or people of opposite sexes appearing cordial or intimate with each other means they are sexually involved is fetishization.
To simplify the analogy even further, people dress up as sexy policeman/woman for parties or for sexual fantasies and that evokes a sexual reaction for some because they are referencing the last time they saw a sexual situation in media with a character dressed in police uniform. They are essentially using that character as a fetish object. That does not mean that anyone who gets turned on to people at dressing up in intentionally sexualized costumes of a police uniform sexually fetishizes actual police in general. Obviously, not. The hot gal/guy in a skimpy police uniform costume is as associated with actual police in your mind as a bunny girl is with actual rabbits. Sexualizing bunny girls does not lead you to sexualize rabbits. In the same way, watching mlm action won't cause you to sexualize gay people in general.
The tendency to fetishize gay people comes not from porn but from social conditioning and selection bias that doesn't allow you to internalize the fact that gay people are normal humans that exist and have lives just like you. If all you know about the concept of gay people is the costume, and have never thought of them or had to think of them as real people, you will slip into fetishization. Fetishization is just a derivative of stereotyping. The more you spend your time with different people the more you will realise that what you believed to be a distinct fundamental difference between the group you identify with and your supposed opposite counterparts is about as significant as the variance within your own group. You can pick a slightly different set of criteria and you find might yourself categorised together with someone you were convinced was from a completely different world.
girls r like waaa cheating gross!!!!@!@111!!!! and then proceed to fetishize gay people and rape and masturbate to it. fucking hate straight ppl sometimes gremlin
You see how patriarchy couldn't have lasted without brainwashing the victims who make rough 50% of the population into brainless co-operation. Basically the principle behind the unbelievable cognitive dissonance you're seeing here is "as long as the guy sleeps with you and only you, you will happily sacrifice all of your existence to him." This is pure, refined mate control toxicity. You don't even have to think too hard to figure out how and why we've ended up here. Women have zero natural reason to ever agree to sexual exclusivity if it wasn't for patriarchal indoctrination. The whole concept of "romantic relationship" only exists because it benefits the reproductive and social interests of the male. Women are at a severe personal, social, financial and reproductive disadvantage in a society that preaches that a male-female sexual partnership, instead of a mother-child family unit, should be the core unit of the social structure and yet they have turned into the most vehement proponents of it. We'd have sent patriarchy the way of the small pox already if our women hadn't been just as deeply sexist as men are.
You see how patriarchy couldn't have lasted without brainwashing the victims who make rough 50% of the population into brainless co-operation. Basically the principle behind the unbelievable cognitive dissonanc... DevonianPeople
i’m not reading all of this. it’s been 5 years since this conversation started.
It amazes me that a manga that has cheating gets a 6 star rating but the one's with r@pe get 9 stars. Honestly i hate the world we live in lmao
girls r like waaa cheating gross!!!!@!@111!!!! and then proceed to fetishize gay people and rape and masturbate to it. fucking hate straight ppl sometimes
Dude is not real and Yaoi tends to bend the laws of the real world and don’t come after a majority of people just cause of your opinions a lot of people are like what you are describing and I admit a lot of it is crazy shit but don’t use that group of people under the same description of the majority
thank you
Cheating you made a choice
Raping you dont have choice.
It hurts to be cheated like you are annoyed. Your heart hurts. You feel betrayed.
coming from a victim of cocsa, both are terrible, however rape is much much worse and theres a reason rapists are in prison while cheaters arent. rape traumatizes people and fucks up their life no matter what, while being cheated on can fuck up a persons life however you have control of moving on or not, rape is not something to compare to infidelity or adultery
Yep is the worst.
But cheating relates people . A lot of people. Because everyone is in a relationship or were in a relationship. But raping story isnt that relatable for some.
Thats why people tend to give low ratings to cheating. Cause it hunts them. reliving those experience and etc. they put there shoes on those people been cheated. S
oh, i get it now. fetishists projecting themselves onto characters
y'all need to understand that not everyone who reads yaoi fetishizes gay people
if ur a girl and u specifically get off 2 mlm then congrats: fetishism
lmao no. Getting off to yaoi or gay porn does NOT mean that you fetishize gay people. It's the same with guys *or girls* getting off to lesbian porn or yuri. And it's smut. It's meant to arouse you idk what you expected. As long as you don't mix fiction with reality for example liking a guy just because he's gay or blatantly staring at two guys on a date to watch for your own personal satisfaction to the discomfort of said guys.
men getting off to lesbians: bad
women getting off to gays: bad
its not that complicated
that's all you have to say? Not even a reason as to why it's bad? It's a preference. Get over it
describing it as a preference is homophobic lmfao, its not a pornography genre, its just a sexual attraction to people of the same sex/gender. its not some sexy special epic forbidden fruit concept for women or men to get off to, its just how people are. its not special, gay people are not special or different, and we are literally the same as everyone else. ostracizing gays doesnt solve anything and rather than blindly defending fetishism and treating homosexuality as a porn genre you should think abt whats wrong with it
gay porn IS a pornography genre? What else would it be?
Shorthand, if you think it is responsible and normal for you to behave a certain way towards other demographics, then you should be comfortable with them behaving the same way towards yours. Showing two people of the same gender having sex for sexual pleasure of the viewer is porn just as it would be if the performers were people of the same gender instead. Getting off to what it meant to be porn is not fetishization, at least not in the social justice sense. Gay people enjoy straight porn just as straight people enjoy gay porn.
Thinking about actual gay people the same way you think about the sex objects in the porn you enjoy is fetishism. Sexualizing interactions between two people of the same gender outside of the context of porn is fetishism. Shipping (the sexual kind) is fetishizing gayness, reading gay porn is not. Just like a hetero person deriving sexual pleasure from images or videos of people of opposite sex intended for the purpose is not considered fetishizing actual men or women, but assuming as if any time a person of the opposite sex is nice to you indicates sexual interest or people of opposite sexes appearing cordial or intimate with each other means they are sexually involved is fetishization.
To simplify the analogy even further, people dress up as sexy policeman/woman for parties or for sexual fantasies and that evokes a sexual reaction for some because they are referencing the last time they saw a sexual situation in media with a character dressed in police uniform. They are essentially using that character as a fetish object. That does not mean that anyone who gets turned on to people at dressing up in intentionally sexualized costumes of a police uniform sexually fetishizes actual police in general. Obviously, not. The hot gal/guy in a skimpy police uniform costume is as associated with actual police in your mind as a bunny girl is with actual rabbits. Sexualizing bunny girls does not lead you to sexualize rabbits. In the same way, watching mlm action won't cause you to sexualize gay people in general.
The tendency to fetishize gay people comes not from porn but from social conditioning and selection bias that doesn't allow you to internalize the fact that gay people are normal humans that exist and have lives just like you. If all you know about the concept of gay people is the costume, and have never thought of them or had to think of them as real people, you will slip into fetishization. Fetishization is just a derivative of stereotyping. The more you spend your time with different people the more you will realise that what you believed to be a distinct fundamental difference between the group you identify with and your supposed opposite counterparts is about as significant as the variance within your own group. You can pick a slightly different set of criteria and you find might yourself categorised together with someone you were convinced was from a completely different world.
You see how patriarchy couldn't have lasted without brainwashing the victims who make rough 50% of the population into brainless co-operation. Basically the principle behind the unbelievable cognitive dissonance you're seeing here is "as long as the guy sleeps with you and only you, you will happily sacrifice all of your existence to him." This is pure, refined mate control toxicity. You don't even have to think too hard to figure out how and why we've ended up here. Women have zero natural reason to ever agree to sexual exclusivity if it wasn't for patriarchal indoctrination. The whole concept of "romantic relationship" only exists because it benefits the reproductive and social interests of the male. Women are at a severe personal, social, financial and reproductive disadvantage in a society that preaches that a male-female sexual partnership, instead of a mother-child family unit, should be the core unit of the social structure and yet they have turned into the most vehement proponents of it. We'd have sent patriarchy the way of the small pox already if our women hadn't been just as deeply sexist as men are.
i’m not reading all of this. it’s been 5 years since this conversation started.