Oh lord if i dare to say what i'm thinking i'm afraid these damn whores will be sooo upset about it to the point of fuck my mentions as if Doyak herself is paying them to defend the story
Why you keep coming here if you hate the story so much....to further help with the mischaracterization?
How much did they payed u mama
How much do you get pay for reading this tho? Not like anyone forced you too.
Okay and? I literally said i wanted to se how this story ends cause i used to like it. Mind yo business and lemme comment what i want lord ideky ahahahah
Your comment is public. Idk why you mad or scared if people criticize you for your opinion especially if your opinion is ass.
Scared or mad over what nigg those are random ppl on the internet debating over pixels imma let this convo die here, peace
ur are so lame like what. the only whore here is u with ur attention seeking BS covering this manhwa head to toe. I've seen like 5 of ur comments against my will. if u wanna see how it ends...wait until the end (omg no way??) ur actually pathetic trying to act tough like u dont gaf. u CLEARLY gaf. ur so weird.
Wah wah wah
gottem!
To be honest, I've already lost my enthusiasm for this story, i only read it to find out what the ending will be. I liked Taejoon from the beginning, i was intrigued by Jo, and Yeongwoo was interesting too. I knew i was reading a love triangle and kept going because i liked it (even though love triangles aren't my jam tbh)
Currently, the story is causing me some annoyance? Third season and I feel like it's been failing since s2.
Jo had a character development that disgusts me and frustrates me, he has a savior complex that does nothing but make me cringe because he doesn't know where he's going and what he's up against. It's not that i have some personal issue with him, nor do i hate him because "i think Taejoon is the best" (ngl, 2 years ago i used to think like that, not anymore)... but who does he think he is to get into a mafia? Scarface? Oh. Jo is a good boy, he always has been, making him a superman against the mafia seems ridiculous to me, he doesn't fit in there. He's risking his life for a man he's only fucked and nothing else? What? Bro, please go pick that camera, move to Italy, become a successful photographer and make a lovely life out of that place, i'm begging you.
Taejoon barely appears, and when he does it's only as a filler for the mafia plot. His self-esteem is non-existent, like he keeps thinking of a man who has never seen him as a lover or someone serious, but as an escape. Yeongwoo has been fucking and fucking and fucking and fucking with others. At this point, Taejoon is just a cuckholder, frrr, and i'm embarrassed to see how he keeps pursuing a guy who has done nothing for him, good or bad. I disliked when Jo and Yeongwoo fucked because i prefered Taejoon, now Taejoon and Yeongwoo fucking is even MORE disgusting for me, not even a fan of these two together anymore
And Yeongwoo? This bitch is the real problem, i'm not defending him anymore, i hate his mediocre life and the fact he can't stand up for himself. He has never really put order in his life or decisions, he does everything on impulse or out of hotness, he has never made an intelligent decision or one that impresses me, the only thing he has to offer is a hole, a facecard and when he was younger a hole and a gun, the rest? nothinggggg
Wetsand was one of my favorite manhwas, nowadays i wouldn't even think of recommending it, I think this would easily go from a 5/5 to a 2.5/5 at best.
And I say this as someone who bought official merch, legal chapters and even has stickers on my phone and pc. I loved this story, now i just want it to finally END
How is yeongwoo the only problem in here. It just seems like you still have some favoritism left for TJ. When TJ was the one who sabotage Ian athletic career. Almost made him disable. Got him in prison and put him in debt......like???? Man these double standard. TJ was gonna be in the gang either way.The fact Ian was with him all those years is more than enough. If all he has to offer is hole , face card and a gun then clearly the two ml only has face cards, a dick and a gun as well. What else do they have besides their obsession with ian. That's all there is to offer with them. Love isn't something transactional, Yw don't need to do stuff for TJ or Jo to like him. So it Ian fault that everybody somehow want to fuck and sleep with him.
And the fact that the only thing you're concerned on tj part is how he is becoming a filler for the gang lore and mentioning that Ian never saw him as a lover like TJ didn't continue to sleep around with women. Was about to marry a woman btw Where was the cheating allegations for TJ when he so clearly loves Ian and yet continue to sleep with other woman. It's barely exist. Where did the people who talk about principal this and that go? Yes let blame it all on Ian.
Says the one who's wants to be a trump apologist. Go read a non love triangle if you actually don't understand the story you're reading.
LMAAAAAAO THE TRUMP COMMENT WAS A FUCKING JOKE I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU REALLY THOUGHT I CAN SUPPORT THAT ORANGE WEIRDO FFSSS
In which part did i mentioned any of this? Trust me i have 0 favouritism here, at this point if all of them end up dead i'll be like hell yeah. Yeongwoo can't even act like a man, he is like a robot, always following intructions from other people, always making mistakes for other people like bro please stand uppp. Taejoon actually didn't sabotage him, Yeongwoo would have followed him either way. All of the story is mistakes, fuck, repeat. And when theres somethibg different, theres 0 development or 1738262827 new characters, pleaseee wetsand is not that deep as it was 2/3 years ago. Never said Yeongwoo was the only problem tho, i really mentioned ALL OF THEM
Fella if you love Yeongwoo just say it, it's okay, i din't care. I never defended any of the characters, never said TJ was innocent either, i think you just read 3 lines and write that comment.
Said that yw is the real problem. Only complain about how yw is a bitch with nothing to offer but a hole , a face card and a gun. can't stand up for himself and now saying TJ didn't sabotage him when he still gave the order. The only thing you complain on TJ part is the fact he barely appears. Is chasing after Ian and a filler for a Mafia plot. Warp it up
There is nothing for me to say. LIke obviously I love Ian. I can understand if people actual give a reasonable perspective on this manhwa but you??? Idk brother. Non of what you said say you understand the story. And don't worry I read all your paragraph and my opinion still doesn't change
Okay so lemme rewrite it and talk shit about TJ too because i think i didn't throw enough shit towards him? Yeah, tell me 3 times Yeongwoo did something important to change the plot without mention having sex or killing someone, like...?? Nothing? I know damn well TJ never did something besides being in a mafia, but thats HIS character, he wants to be a mafia boss. Yeongwoo doesn’t even know where he is standing. And Joseph is doing shit and shit just because he likes a dude. I dont understand why in this app everyone seems to have a personal problem with every manhwa someone dislike, as if they're the author or sum. I am not here to convince people to have the same perception as me, so please y'all should stop saying "you didn't understand the story" just because you THINK YOUR POINT is the truth and the rest of us are wrong
"I love Ian" okay honey, that's all, have a nice day
Let me talk shit about TJ and somehow no shit was talk about TJ but instead Ian. You do know the reason why this is happening is because of TJ right? Like Ian has a part of it but TJ has it too. But being in the Mafia is just his character. He just want to be a Mafia boss. He just a baby. The reason why there a tail on Ian is because of TJ. You know that right? When you gets everything wrong it painful to see. You think everything is happening because of Ian when in reality both TJ and Ian play a part in it. The reason everything is happening is not just Ian fault. He kill the dude because he thought he was gonna hurt Jo. "I know damn well TJ never did something besides being a Mafia" like???? We reading the same story here??
"I know damn well TJ never did something besides being in a Mafia, but that his character" acting like the facts he is in a Mafia has no affect on the story. Warp it up and spare me.
"without fucking or killing someone" when TJ is always the one fucking with Ian. Bro killed that one dude boss and now the dude is holding some sort of grudge against him and ian. The fact is Ian used to be in a Mafia and TJ is still in the Mafia. Their history in the Mafia especially TJ gonna have big influence on the story. The story was never a straight forward love triangle but it involves the Mafia from the start. The facts that TJ is still in the Mafia and rn is having conflict mean that Ian is also in danger as well. The fucking is just a smut it literally has no purpose in the story. Everything Ian , Jo and TJ do especially moving forward this season is all gonna affect the story. This season is the climax just because of maybe 2 chapter of them fucking isn't gonna take away from anything moving forward. Is it frustrating? Yeah but it literally not that deep. And the way you have the rights to criticize a story and gives your opinion is the same way people can criticize your opinion.
I never babied him oh lord HAHAHAHA, you're not even getting my point. I never, literally never, said Yeongwoo was the one and only problem and the rest of them were innocent. I literally said "Yeongwoo can't stand up for himself" and you don't need to have a high IQ to understand that, don't you?
Okay and does that erase the fact Yeongwoo can't even take a good damn decision to grow up as a person? Hell nah
Can't believe y'all are still NOT GETTING my whole point of TJ and Yeongwoo. Babe, at this point just cut it off, i'm not getting payed to debate with strangers online, ffs
I don't even think you understand what you wrote cus you're so stuck on thinking that what you wrote is something with nuance. It one of those paragraph that keep implying something but still have enough space to backtrack when someone call them out for it
Girl u have your own point of view, i have mine, leave me and my notifications alone pls, im done arguing with someone who loves a useless character and keeps defending this story, take care boo
i can't fathom why you would buy merch of characters you clearly don't even understand just put the fries in the bag bruh
period purple
mute the comment boo <3
Nah bruh i literally said i was a fan like 2 years ago, be fr and btw i don't remember the time i borrowed money from u to care huh
This!
Sorry bitches but I AM NOT falling for Pro Joseph propaganda, i'd rather call myself a trump apologist or sum cancelable stupid shit like that bye
Saying you're not gonna fall for a fictional character whose better than most tops in general but basically support a real life pedophile, who has ripped families away and made over thousand kids disappear in one year. You sound so fucking stupid.
Do you really???? HAHAHAHA Heeeeelllll nah someone can't take a joke, can't believe it
A very ill and distasteful one. If it was a joke it should've been funny. Why would you even use someone as malicious. And with how most act it's not shocking some think you mean it.
Oh my god leave me alone hahaha
Then don't say stupid shit about supporting a pedophile.
you’re a cringe freak of nature
Why do authors use the thrope of old men abusing young bottoms, hella repulsive ngl im this close )( to drop this
Congratulations author, you just wasted a story with a good plot, a good artstyle and a lot of potential to become some supernatural/mystery/horror manhwa by making that empty ending. What the fuck was that???
must've given up
Tell me you did not understand the story without telling me were u even thinking while reading
I love how in mangago some bitches can't take opinions from other bitches and they go straight to the "you did not understand" argument lmaaao. Yes btch I understood the story, i liked it, that doesnt mean it was well executed, this had A LOT of potential to become something psychological and BIG AS FUCK but that ending felt dissapointing and abrupt you can't convince me otherwise, pls go argue with someone else dude lmao
Gurl I wasn't trying to shit talk your whole existence calm down. It was clear from the start that this will be a shortstory so why would you expect a big ass story from it. It was well executed for a psychological short story with the ending fitting perfectly to the symbolism as well as the title. Its not written as a story to just read but you also have to understand the entire symbolism behind every event. I can not imagine that it could be that well executed if the story was stretched, I think 9 Chapters was totally fitting.
But I'm open to hear what you expected and how you understood the story
Hell nah, chapters 16 and 17 are fucked up. I couldn't even enjoy it cause Yeseung it's so brainwashed by his "boss/teacher" (actually his sex master) that greapy old ass just manipulates Yeseung and gaslights him into believing he is his muse and all those kinky sex he has with Yeseung it's some kind of art smh
his sex master ?? omg wait how do u know all this
Yeah definitely gives vibes that the teacher groomed Yeseung into believing his sexuality = art and he became hypersexualized as a coping mechanism for the sexual abuse and trauma
I read both chapters 15/16 in another page. I was buying the story in english when it released but since chapter 13/14 I'm kinda dissapointed because of the old ass dude, so I just read here. I'm thinking about dropping this tbh.
Fr dude, smh
I completely lost sense of plot after 1726273627362737 new characters since season 2 and 173627362 subplots going at the same time omg
im barely hanging onto the plot too ╥﹏╥ it's well written tbf theres just sm going on it needs a whole breakdown
Yeah like i said before:
Men are trash: the manhwa
Yall can blame whoever you want or be team tj or team jo, but be for real none of them deserve to be together. Three manwhores acting selfish and childish at this point imo.
Also, wheres the plot i can't find it anymore lmao. If i see another chapter of sex imma lose it i swear to god
When did Jo become a manwhore? Wasn’t he some loser virgin before or he only dated women? And does it really matter if they’re whores if they aren’t with anyone?
Plot is there, some people just don’t read and focus on the sex which does come a lot to be fair. I prefer more action plot so this one doesn’t do it for me, but I’m sticking to find the ending. And it’s killing me.
just wanna get ur pov, how is jo selfish moreover a manwhore !!!?
Well, i was actually referring more to Yeongwoo and TJ than Joseph. I just think Joseph is too immature as a character, there are many recent comments i wrote about the story where i explain why it doesn't suit for me after being a fan since its release
Personally, I think the plot has been stagnant for a loooong time, and yes, you're right, sometimes there's too much sex and no action. And sometimes when they should be adding subplots or character development, there's sex again (like these last few chapters between Yeongwoo and TJ, oh hell i didn't even feel like reading them, i can't stand seeing anyone have sex at this point hahahah)
That's more of a definition for tj/yeongwoo, but joseph it's very, veeeery inmmature
You said three so that threw me off cause, shitty memory of mine, but Jo’s been a loser virgin this whole story until Ian meeting.
It’s fine not everyone likes this type of story. For me it’s just morbid curiosity, this always fucks me up because I don’t wanna read it but my brain says I have to.
I hate love triangles.
I don't remember if he was or not a virgin, the only thing i remember is that he wasn't even gay and Yeongwoo was the first man he fucked with (and he's almost losing his mind over the first dude that gave him a blowjob, what the hell?)
I used to love the story, i was even a solid team tj like a year and a half ago (and no, i was a team tj but not a joseph hater, to me he was just the "good guy who's normal and chill" and nothing else, can't blame me because he has like 0 character development besides being good and fuck with yeongwoo at least we know something about tj and yeongwoo... but being honest, do any of them really have a character development tho?)
I hate love triangles too, i thought this one was different an i gave it a try, but nah this is like all the rest: new-in-town good guy, bad guy ex-lover, and the one who wants to leave his horrorific past but can't move one cause it's attached to his ex, yeah there's like a billion of that
I just want to know how it ends and don't even wanna hear anything else again
I think Jo doesn't have any development because he’s the one that’s already pretty solid in terms of personality and behavior. It’s TJ and Ian who needs strong development.
Jo is already developed in some ways.
TJ looks like he will never move forward and develop, he is glued to the gang.
Ian is the one that needs development and can if he chooses to move forward unlike TJ.
I don’t trust any love triangles because again, it’s a love triangle in the first place. What I hate even more is when there’s already an established relationship or endgame, and a third party comes in to make one of them jealous or whatever.
Heavy on an another chapter of sex
Cause wheres the DEVELOPMENT
Im waiting
I’m team Ian. I hope one day he will make up his mind and make the decision. Only he knows what and who he really wants
Oh girl reading this must be a struggle for you atp that basically sums up Jo’s entire personality thus far
Yeah, he’s technically the “outsider” but he’s long lost that “outsider” title once he got closer to Ian, even having Ian question what they were. Jo is everything Ian has been wanting or expecting from TJ, but it’s so far.
And yes reading this shit is a struggle for me because I hate love triangles. I’m a dude, not gay fr, have a girlfriend. Jo isn’t really interesting, never said he was but that’s exactly why Ian is drawn to him. TJ drawing too much attention to the point of risking life, Ian needs some “normalcy”.
I'm so glad I dropped this early man I'd hate to have to endure that much sex (it's very noticeable how excessive/unnecessary it is when you don't get turned on by it lmao)