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Lovett13 July 23, 2025 5:47 pm

Just saw there's a whole Kiss Me universe.

With Grayson in one of them lololol that bitch needs to burn in hell after Yeonwoo and now with Chase and Josh. Bitch gonna burrnnn burrnnnn.

LMAOOOOOO whose gonna put out the fire???
Our lovely firemannnn Dane
But those with the REAL spoilers... Tell me. One word reply OR put dots so we don't spoil the ones who don't wanna know. WHO!!!! WHO IS THE BOTTOM?!?!? My brain isn't braining.. I can't compute. I can't remember if Dane was an omega..? I thought he was an alpha? Is it AxA? AxB? O??? Mmm?????
I'm not reading the novels though.. I need to look at their pretty faces btw. Oh and the children have their own stories.. Idk if I can handle the babies own stories. I might be scarred for life. (⊙…⊙ )

    Reo July 23, 2025 6:26 pm

    SPOILER(the spoiler button is not showing for me for whatever reason)
























    Dane is the bottom. He‘s a dominated(?) omega and Grayson is a dominated alpha. I believe their novel is still ongoing, I’ve been letting it marinated for awhile so I haven’t caught up but as far as I’ve read it, there’s no mpreg

    asmiir_ July 23, 2025 6:31 pm

    I hate Grayson so much and when the author tried to recover and rekindle Grayson and Chase relationship.. I almost barfed lmaoo

    I love Dane though he’s too good for Grayson

    Toru July 23, 2025 6:54 pm

    First, to get something out of the way: when Yeonwoo thought back a few chapters later about what happened at that party at the beginning of the story, it is mentioned that it was Grayson who got the alphas off him. So after he bit that guy he didn't get away on his own. Nothing more, but that was mentioned in the KML novel.

    Spoiler
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    Dane is a dominant omega who only ever bottomed for Grayson.
    And since no one knows about Dane being the omega (everyone thinks he is a beta), him being one of the worst promiscuous humans in creation and topping everything....it was even discussed by others in the novel.XD

    Grayson is more like an ultra dominant alpha, since he was born manifested.
    Your picture of Grayson will shift drastically when you read his story. Reading his PoV, how crazy and weird he is, his interactions with other etc. is hilarious.
    He actually became my favorite Zig character.
    There are things about Grayson I could tell you, you will never ever have guessed.^^

    Toru July 23, 2025 7:05 pm
    SPOILER(the spoiler button is not showing for me for whatever reason) Dane is the bottom. He‘s a dominated(?) omega and Grayson is a dominated alpha. I believe their novel is still ongoing, I’ve been lettin... Reo

    The main story was finished in May (->chapter 195. Chapter 194 and 195 are kind of an epilogue, something that happens a bit later). The first extra were released ~2 weeks later (-> chapter 210. The first extra continue the end of chapter 193).
    She revised the story and did some changes and added some stuff, for logical reasons, when they release the stories in volumes? I think.

    A much longer extra with possible mpreg was announced for later this Year or next Year. But I think it will be next Year, since Run away if you can (Nathaniel's story), which was scheduled to start July 16th was postponed to October, so the author will msot likely be behind her schedule

    Reo July 23, 2025 7:20 pm
    The main story was finished in May (->chapter 195. Chapter 194 and 195 are kind of an epilogue, something that happens a bit later). The first extra were released ~2 weeks later (-> chapter 210. The first... Toru

    Gawh damn the main story has already ended? Time is flyinnnggg but thanks for letting me know!! I’ll probably catch up now since the main story is finished. Also what changes did Zig made? I don’t mind if there are spoilers, I’m kind of curious lol.

    Ahhhh!! This is some great news omg pregnant Dane is all ever I needed I was afraid that Zig would let this opportunity go to waste, since it’s rare to see buff/masc omegas to get pregnant, so Dane is literally like perfect for this. Mother Aig never disappoints

    Toru July 23, 2025 8:25 pm
    Gawh damn the main story has already ended? Time is flyinnnggg but thanks for letting me know!! I’ll probably catch up now since the main story is finished. Also what changes did Zig made? I don’t mind if t... Reo

    It's mainly smaller things for logical reasons, for example:
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    At the beginning, the fire at the pheromone party, when Dane arrived he saw Grayson freeing himself, he broke the bedposts (Grayson is incredibly strong) he was tied to. That wasn't in the story before.

    I think him seeing V**** ( you know what I mean?), for the first or second time, she added something there, but just don't ask... . ( I still can't get Grayson's poetry of the VxVxA love triangle in the extra out of my head, you either WTF!?! O_O" or die of laughter!XD)


    She added that Dane had more of those experimental pills and used them. The one he used on the first non-date.

    In the extra she added that Chase and the younger ones were too small to remember that they all together went to Disneyland once. That's because Chase mentioned in KMIYC that he never went to a public amusement park.

    I can't remember everything, but 3 changes I remember I don't want to mention, because those would be massive spoilers, the situations are. And they are in the last third? of the story.
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    She mentioned the extras on twitter, since they changed the story tags. I think she originally wanted to put the pregnancy or child in the epilogue, because for a long time there was a pregnancy tag. But now it is most likely to happen in the second extra, which should have much longer than the first.

    I think Dane will be good with kids. And since he can handle Grayson, he will be able to handle their dominant offspring.lol

    Cale chavelizta July 23, 2025 10:39 pm
    It's mainly smaller things for logical reasons, for example:...........At the beginning, the fire at the pheromone party, when Dane arrived he saw Grayson freeing himself, he broke the bedposts (Grayson is incr... Toru

    Hi honey thankyou so much for the spoiler and notice about dane and greyson troupe but may i ask where do you read the novel? Is it translated to english ? Ridibooks only provide the korean ver and i cant read hangul im willing to paid legaly for this one

    Toru July 24, 2025 11:45 am
    Hi honey thankyou so much for the spoiler and notice about dane and greyson troupe but may i ask where do you read the novel? Is it translated to english ? Ridibooks only provide the korean ver and i cant read ... Cale chavelizta

    Only official version at the moment is in korean.
    I used ridibooks with a translator, and fan translations of other languages and a FB blog with very good summaries to check things that were unclear etc....all with a translator.XD

    When the novel was in progress the english fan translations were all way behind, so no real option. At the moment I only know of one english fan translation that is finished (that one caught up a few days before the end), but that one has still logged chapters. There is another one past chapter 100 and in progress.

    If you want those links, I can send you a message.
    There are also complete fan translations in spanish, portuguese, vietnamese, turkish. I didn't check if there are more now.
    But all the completed I know of ere translated live when the story was still in progress, so it's unlikely they have the current revised version. I'm mean it's only some small changes, but still has to be mentioned.

    Lovett13 July 24, 2025 4:03 pm

    Okay I skimmed some of it cause spoilers lol. Thank you for letting me know! It'd KILL ME if I jumped in without knowing. Ofc gonna wait for webtoon/manhwa? Cause I'm a visual person lol. Yeah but I just wanna hate him rn. He did do some things just in the last few chapters of this story..
    (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ I need to feel the hate to gradually start to like him. I like redemption arcs the most with BL. I'm weird. I bet I will like him eventually but not til I see some suffering. Whether it's misunderstandings, misconnections or just compatibility wise. I'll have to wait a few years but it'll be good!

    Lovett13 July 24, 2025 4:04 pm
    SPOILER(the spoiler button is not showing for me for whatever reason) Dane is the bottom. He‘s a dominated(?) omega and Grayson is a dominated alpha. I believe their novel is still ongoing, I’ve been lettin... Reo

    Thank you! Though that's sad

    Lovett13 July 24, 2025 4:11 pm
    First, to get something out of the way: when Yeonwoo thought back a few chapters later about what happened at that party at the beginning of the story, it is mentioned that it was Grayson who got the alphas off... Toru

    Sorry I skimmed. Spoilers lol I love characters that I love to hate. I'm just salty cause he likes to spread his pheromones with Yeonwoo and Josh. And I'm not actually serious it's more like when you're gossiping and go "Oooo thaatttt bitch gonna burrrnnn!"
    (≧∀≦)

    Toru July 24, 2025 5:31 pm
    Sorry I skimmed. Spoilers lol I love characters that I love to hate. I'm just salty cause he likes to spread his pheromones with Yeonwoo and Josh. And I'm not actually serious it's more like when you're gossipi... Lovett13

    I'm not saying that he is not an asshole, because he is.:D
    And yea, you will see the thing with Chase later if you don't already know it, and that was not ok.
    But Grayson really doesn't understand what he did to his brother, if you read it in KMIYC and don't let your anger for Chase get in the way, you see that there was no malice behind it (no matter how bad it looks, and it looks bad), and he in his weird way cares for Chase, but you think he is crazy ( but the dominant alphas are all pychopath). Grayson's way of helping has always been a big problem, if you read Grayson's story you'll see that. That guy was born manifested, releases more pheromones that normal dominant alphas, and has problems understanding emotions etc.
    I got the impression that he is actually much stronger and much more dangerous than other dominant alphas, but his personality....I think he got a good portion of Koi in the mix and he really does some weird crazy stuff:D

    Spoiler for the Chase thing and for you initital question

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    He understands it near the end of his story and tries to apologize to Chase.
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    Dane tried while in heat.... but Grayson didn't want to ( he only wanted to see something to make sure Dane is an DO), actually in he didn't want at all. So Dane decided to use his pheromones on him and well.... .
    The whole situation and what happened before was just crazy.XD

    Later Grayson actually offered one time, and Dane categorically declined. Initially he was afraid that Grayson actually liked it, since he wanted to get rid of him. Later...well probably V******* left a lasting effect on him, so he preferes to bottom.XD I mean the same happened to Josh, Josh was a top until he met Chase.

    Lovett13 July 26, 2025 3:47 am
    I'm not saying that he is not an asshole, because he is.:DAnd yea, you will see the thing with Chase later if you don't already know it, and that was not ok.But Grayson really doesn't understand what he did to ... Toru

    LMAOOOOOO!!! Yeah that's how it usually goes. They don't know til they do and/or experience it themselves.
    ლ(´ڡ`ლ) ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Toru July 26, 2025 6:48 am

    Yes, but in this case it's the omegas lol, Dane and Josh both where exclusively tops before, so promiscuous that they were in league with the dominant alphas, esp. Dane, but started to bottom with their alphas. Since both alphas would do everything for their omegas, I thinks it's mainly their own decision. And in both cases you can't say they were forced to bottom, when they had their first experience as a bottom, Josh and Chase you saw in the manhwa adaption and Grayson and Dane....Spoiler
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    Dane was in heat and used his pheromones as I mentioned, but Dane is an dominant omega so he is able to knock out dominant alphas with his pheromones and also is able to force them into rut. .....so it was poor V******* that got strangled without consent.

Lovett13 July 23, 2025 5:04 pm

Come on!!!! Put PH PHHHHH instead of the chapter number or notice! It gives false hopes lol sad

    Toru July 23, 2025 5:07 pm

    Check the whole chapter list. The official chapters aren't out, so PH.
    But the bot? grabbed 2 fan translated chapters.

    Lovett13 July 23, 2025 5:21 pm
    Check the whole chapter list. The official chapters aren't out, so PH. But the bot? grabbed 2 fan translated chapters. Toru

    Mm I see. I'll have to write a note to myself to scroll down and check first before reading. I'm just crashing and burning on my own lol. Yeah I'm not sure how it works too much since I never translate anything even after 10 years. I know I'm not good enough to do it. Idk who the hell is on here trying to upstage Juju and kaoru?! They both do great! TH is going on? This is happening on so many stories I'm just
    (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ upset.. lol

    Lovett13 July 23, 2025 5:24 pm
    Mm I see. I'll have to write a note to myself to scroll down and check first before reading. I'm just crashing and burning on my own lol. Yeah I'm not sure how it works too much since I never translate anything... Lovett13

    And I'm just saying when you check the chapters when reading you'll see "notice" without numbers at all. I'm just saying if they could put it without a number.

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Lovett13 July 20, 2025 12:40 am

Don't judge people on their already read cause I have things in there I haven't read lmao

    Lovett13 July 20, 2025 12:57 am

    Ughh why does it always cut it off.. I wrote this as a tip for forgetful people like me who come across a story they've already tried reading but didn't enjoy it because art change, grossness(disgusting), or cringe.

    While we don't always trust what others say we can trust what we have already tried reading. I tend to put it in my already read and write to myself.

    Example: Art change @47 drastically different can't tell who is who. Don't try to read again.
    Then I put unsubscribe so it doesn't pop up again in notifications and if I come across it again I know not to waste my time.
    Okay off I go ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    GOJOSBIGFATCOCK July 20, 2025 1:07 am

    Exactlyyy + you might have read it at the time you didn't know what was wrong with it

    Lovett13 July 20, 2025 1:27 am
    Exactlyyy + you might have read it at the time you didn't know what was wrong with it GOJOSBIGFATCOCK

    Yeah you have no idea how many times I suffered before I finally learned what reading lists were! Lol I learned my lesson

    TheHolyCow July 20, 2025 2:28 am
    Yeah you have no idea how many times I suffered before I finally learned what reading lists were! Lol I learned my lesson Lovett13

    Omfg no that happened to me so many times. I wish there was a list for GET THIS SHIT OUTTA MY FACE. Cause I seriously wish I could just block some of these mangas or whatever from my view. Maybe I’m just irrationally angry tho…

    Lovett13 July 20, 2025 2:38 am
    Omfg no that happened to me so many times. I wish there was a list for GET THIS SHIT OUTTA MY FACE. Cause I seriously wish I could just block some of these mangas or whatever from my view. Maybe I’m just irra... TheHolyCow

    Yeah it's a good way to keep track of things. I also use it to put: @56 are they about to kiss? Lol so I remember to read the chapter before or remember where I'm at instead of the bookmark. Then I change it after I'm done with it too. Like @237 wait till 300 so I wait usually because a new arc is happening and I don't wanna get confused. If you remember one you hate just put in already read. Write fucking hate this shit don't read. Lol it works wonders!

    Lovett13 July 20, 2025 2:39 am
    Omfg no that happened to me so many times. I wish there was a list for GET THIS SHIT OUTTA MY FACE. Cause I seriously wish I could just block some of these mangas or whatever from my view. Maybe I’m just irra... TheHolyCow

    And it's totally fine being angry it's the worse sometimes. Trash should be labeled trash in our own way lol

    TheHolyCow July 20, 2025 2:44 am
    And it's totally fine being angry it's the worse sometimes. Trash should be labeled trash in our own way lol Lovett13

    Yk what. Thank u bro

    I'm just broke July 20, 2025 3:31 am
    Ughh why does it always cut it off.. I wrote this as a tip for forgetful people like me who come across a story they've already tried reading but didn't enjoy it because art change, grossness(disgusting), or cr... Lovett13

    Off topic but you can edit ur comment/question

    Lovett13 July 20, 2025 6:22 am
    Off topic but you can edit ur comment/question I'm just broke

    Lmao ty from now on I'll copy it before posting so I don't have to do it again. Lmao idk why I'm blind!

Lovett13 June 6, 2025 1:32 pm

I really don't get people hating on overpowered MC in a tower end of the world type thing.

    acorn June 6, 2025 3:59 pm

    I think it all boils down to preference.

    But if I had to say in a more observant tone, maybe it's because the OP Mc trope, when executed badly, waters down the mc into only the strong character traits without the vulnerability of human emotion and nature more often than not. And an mc who gets everything they want with an apathetic sort of demeanor oftentimes lacks depth (especially if they have a bland motive), which might feel repetitive for readers.

    tbh I think overpowered MCs can be interesting when done right and aren't devoid of deep motives, emotions, and actually fun personality

    Lovett13 June 7, 2025 5:24 am

    Tbh I totally understand what you're saying. This is the shortest topic I've ever posted ..... Because it just disappeared lol. It was twice as long as your comment too.. it was because someone was hating just on the trope but commented on a single story not as a topic.

    I like the trope because it's healing. It's sometimes nonsense but it's not harmful to the mind lol. In my rant that disappeared I mentioned how fked my brain ended up by the betrayal in shoujo and the toxic relationships in yaoi. It's good to have a MC that doesn't die so easily because sometimes you just want the story to go on and on. I also asked to recs for anything similar or weird plots where there's no romance lol. Like Leveling Up by only Eating, The Ultimate Shut In, or Leveling Up with Skills.

    I'm sad it disappeared cause now it looks like I'm begging for an argument lmao I did mention it was a preference thing too but just to not take it out on a single story. They can post a topic lol. I mean even I've seen the same trope over and over in other genres yk? It's never overused to me. Sometimes when something is over wayyy to soon for a reader it's great there's something similar to read next. Rant over sorry.

    And yes you're totally right about the MCs emotion. I like when they have a motion to drive them!

    acorn June 7, 2025 8:40 am
    Tbh I totally understand what you're saying. This is the shortest topic I've ever posted ..... Because it just disappeared lol. It was twice as long as your comment too.. it was because someone was hating just ... Lovett13

    Seeing your take, I totally get where you're coming from. There's a sense of security when you know that your main character won't get easily pushed over especially due to external means.

    I also have a similar reading pattern when it comes to preference! I especially love stories with the "transmigrated into a story MC read" trope. And I don't think it'll ever feel old or overused for me any sooner. It's fun to see how different authors tackle the same trope with their own unique twists to it, be it through character, world building, etc.

    MCs who suffer in vain just for the sake of having the MC baggage can feel so heavy and unnecessary without a proper resolution, so I really understand you finding it healing when the MC can actually stand up for/protect themselves.

    Lovett13 June 7, 2025 8:19 pm
    Seeing your take, I totally get where you're coming from. There's a sense of security when you know that your main character won't get easily pushed over especially due to external means. I also have a similar ... acorn

    Yeah frfr I've been reading them all week. Yk it's bad then you don't even check daily for chapters. I was going days sometimes a week before coming back on here and I love to read. READING IS LIFE. Lol but it was so hard to find something with no romance. I need at least a few months before getting back into anything that might be toxic. Plus parent manhwa/webtoons are okay but theres just not enough action sometimes.

    Oooo love that one! And yeah sometimes people die in those tower dungeon stories but I like when they're alone. That way it takes a while to get attached to side characters so they won't feel that emotion burden so easily. (⌒▽⌒)

    Lovett13 June 7, 2025 8:19 pm
    Seeing your take, I totally get where you're coming from. There's a sense of security when you know that your main character won't get easily pushed over especially due to external means. I also have a similar ... acorn

    Good talking to you btw!

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