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Alboh December 4, 2025 7:42 am

Bro the messier ml that’s supposed to take him away, is gonna be like until the last minute “I gotta manipulate him and steal him away

Al.boh November 28, 2025 6:23 pm

I honestly believe that Jo is the better choice, now before anybody fucks me in the ass, let me explain. From what was said in the story and from what I saw, Tj just kept on emotionally manipulating Ian, from the scar, to the broken leg. Both Jo and Tj are basically obsessed with Ian but, Tj gets physically obsessed like he needs to have him by his side at every waking moment of the day, Jo is obsessed emotionally, like if he leaves him, like he said, he can’t be okay. The difference is that Tj puts more worth on his lifestyle, which Ian doesn’t wanna take part of as he tried to leave (gangs, killing, etc..). Jo instead still wants to follow his dreams, but also wants Ian by his side and wants him happy. Tj just doesn’t respect or care for Ian’s decision or lifestyle, he just wants him. I do believe that they love each other in some sick twisted way (Tj and Ian) and it is gonna hurt both of him, but I also believe that Ian having Jo by his side can become a better person and can let go of his past. Idk how Tj is gonna get better, if he’s gonna get better if they do part ways. This is how I see it, please don’t take my money or my family or my cat thank you

    Al.boh November 28, 2025 6:26 pm

    On a side note there’s also a heavy part of me that just wants to see Ian and Jo switch so keep that in mind (I honestly don’t believe that Tj could ever bottom)

    Rian November 28, 2025 6:31 pm

    The only correct logical option would be seeing a therapist —and if a therapist doesn't help then finding someone else that isn't as obssesive as those dudes

    Rian November 28, 2025 6:31 pm
    The only correct logical option would be seeing a therapist —and if a therapist doesn't help then finding someone else that isn't as obssesive as those dudes Rian

    Like me maybe idk

    Al.boh November 29, 2025 12:16 pm
    The only correct logical option would be seeing a therapist —and if a therapist doesn't help then finding someone else that isn't as obssesive as those dudes Rian

    I definitely agree, but that probably wont happen, so if I need to choose which one is better, morally and physically (even tho Jo did SA him), I think Jo is the better choice, unfortunately

    gojo's cock sleeve December 2, 2025 4:50 pm

    i get that but also. and im not defending tj for what he's done but. isn't the point of the manhwa to show these characters developing? and tj has definitely grown from who he was. idk if u remember, but back when tj got into a car crash for the first time, ian was ready to go kill the people who arranged it. tj then told him to stay away. and then, after jason's funeral, he left without a word. a lot of people miss the significance of this: its to show that yes, tj could've tied ian down to himself again. ian was willing to get into the whole mess again for tj's sake. but tj finally FUCKING FINALLY realised that he values ian's safety over him being by his side. that's why he thinks to himself that he was glad ian wasn't in the car with him. that's why he leaves, and again thinks to himself that ian's free to do what he wants now. yes, the reunion happens and tj is back on his shit about taking ian away with him, but i think it was done to just lay everything bare between him and ian. obv tj could regress again, but isn't his character developing in the positive direction rn? about jo well i've never denied him being the objectively better option, but also, sometimes he just doesnt make sense to me bc he's obsessed and willing to ruin his life over a guy he recently met, and that's just. idk. "okay but tj's done worse things" yeah & jo wasn't brought up the way tj was. idk idk. ur point does make sense to me but i feel like there's a bigger reason why doyak has included the detail of jo having this weird obsession yk. WE'LL SEE THOUGH again i agree w u mostly DO NOT JUMP ME @ JO STANS

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