i wish i saw more people criticising ian as a character without resorting to blatant slut shaming, which just shows u aren’t even reading the story. doyak, the literal author believes he’s the worst of the three mcs which i dont rly agree w but says a lot. i also wish he got more appreciation bc he’s genuinely so well written but all of his struggles get written off as trauma porn. i wish more people appreciated his kind side, which we see w toby. his forgiving side, which we see w tj. his affectionate side, which we see w jo. i will also never understand readers that put him down to uplift their fav male lead, saying they deserve better. there’s literally nobody in the whole manhwa who deserves better than ian.
about joseph. well. my biggest gripe w the characterisation of jo rn is that he falls rly flat as a character, at least to me. i find it hard to connect w him in the same way i connect w tj and ian. and i dont think it’s bc he’s a normal guy and has no tragic past backing him up; i just find it a lil hard to understand him. we know by now that he’s ready to sacrifice everything for ian. he’s willing to kill for him, hell he HAS helped him kill somebody. i don't understand what exactly it is about ian that has him willing to go so far? this is NOTTTTT me saying ian isn’t deserving of somebody like jo; he definitely is. i think ian is loveable, kind, loyal, tragic. but jo hasn’t really seen all these sides. all he knows is is that ian is good-looking, good in bed, nice, has killed somebody, was in a gang, is entangled w a guy named tj. idk. i think i personally just find it a little stupid about how a normal guy w a normal upbringing is so attached to a guy he recently met. but that’s just my opinion. on the other hand, i totally get why ian likes jo; jo provides him w everything he has ever wanted and more. also, i feel like jo's entire appeal as a character is just how he’s the “better option”, and how much healthier he is for ian. if u remove that aspect, he honestly is a pretty boring guy to read about imo. he’s been getting more interesting though, ever since he saw ian kill that one guy. if him and ian really are endgame, i hope we delve more into his character apart from what he feels for ian.
i find taejoon the most interesting to read about by far. sometimes i’m a lil frustrated bc most people write him off as the Big Bad Villain of the manhwa when he’s not. he’s obviously made some terrible decisions, but i also find him extremely sad. i think a lot of people overlook the fact that he was quite literally groomed and molded by jason into being the man he is today. to have his walls up all time. he never really learnt how to love someone, and he admits that. the saddest part for me was when he bought that mansion in california for him and ian to live in. a lot of people thought it was doyak’s way of showing tj doesn’t know what ian rly wants, and that might be true, but i took it differently. in one of the earlier chapters we see how jason had promised to build them all houses in the future. jason never did, so tj took it upon himself to build one. it honestly makes me sad bc it’s apparent that he thought, okay, if you care for someone you build them a house. but then jason dies, and tj sells the house too. yes he needed funds, but i also took it as him finally moving out of jason’s influence. we see him questioning his decision to remain in the gang. after he almost gets into a car crash for the first time, we see him leaving ian without a trace bc he realises he values his safety above keeping him tied by his side. this doesn’t overwrite the decisions he made, obviously. but he is changing. it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s endgame, and he might regress anytime (lowk did at the reunion), but he is changing.
i wish more readers were ready to acknowledge the very real developments the characters are going through even if they aren’t rooting for said characters. when i see people write off wet sand as a basic love triangle it pains me bc it’s honestly one of the better written bls out there. it’s not perfect, but there’s so much more than the green flag vs red flag discourse that’s prevalent in the fandom.
in the 20 days wet sand didn't update my skin cleared up i aced my quiz i slept 8 hours a day & i started my first j*b ever....... maybe yaoi is the Problem
reading this is like drinking fish soup in winter while tucked into a blanket w ur toes peeking out
ian and jo rly are made for each other bc neither of them can keep tj out of their mind while they're fucking each other romance of the century oh my
ian "why did he have to say that" shin x jo "it's all bc of that guy isn't it" landi.... soulmate behavior actually !!!
Lmao
i love taejoon but recently i've been wanting this to end w him dying so badly like imagine him finally being like yeah im sick of this fuck my stupid baka life im gonna leave this shit and im gonna get my man and im gonna live a normal happy life and then we see him taking the first step to get out of this whole mess and then him just. dying. like that would actually be such a yum character arc for him omg. im drooling.
Are you perhaps happy with the ending of Banana fish? (;ﾟ∇ﾟ)
LMAO
icl sometimes i genuinely feel like im reading a diff story bc it's been 80 chaps & the comments are still stuck on the Tj Bad, Jo Good, Ian Slut discourse like. & yeah ik it's a lt so people are gonna talk about it but yk... is nobody excited about the wedding? do we think somebody's gonna die? the nasty skank asked her daddy to kill tj so do we think he's gonna get hurt? i've seen people saying tj's gonna kill ian &.... are we forgetting this is the guy that disappeared from ians life bc he didn't want him to die? saying tj's gonna kill/hurt jo when he recently said he owes his life to him? i mean yeah the possibility is never zero but it'd mean his entire development was for nothing which seems a lil stupid. & yall jo stans... are u guys not worried about ur guy? him barely stopping from killing jamie, him mentioning tj while having sex w ian but then them never actually talking about it, him being dragged into everything when he knows nothing about what's actually going on. him being ready to give everything away for a guy he met recently, i mean its def not normal but maybe its yaoi seme logic so i might be reading too much into it. does anybody else think chiwoon is hot as fuck but also that he's been a lil sus lately? or does anyone else see the foreshadowing of him taking over tj's role? is there a reason doyak included the detail of tj having a clean criminal record? do we think he's gonna end up in jail? if ian wasn't going to get the earrings and chain (idt he was either) then what was in the envelopes? jo's dad telling him a revolver has 6 bullets, and jo saying he has 4 left now, is there a reason to emphasise on that? there's sooooo much im curious about honestly
they could fuck each other & it'd still be less gay than wtv this is
Doomed yaoi is the gayest yaoi ever ong
oh god oh god oh god i have so so so so many thoughts rn:
first, the goods:
- props to jo for consoling toby, it was rly rly sweet actually
- IAN STILL KEEPING THE MATCHING EARRINGS & THE (POTENTIAL) MATCHING CHAIN HE HAS W TJ THEY MAKE ME SICK OMFG???? & tj is always ALWAYS wearing the earrings i need to kms actually.
- im pessimistic as fuck so i dont think ian was going back for those, some people on twt are saying he actually wanted the envelopes which makes sense but idk what's in those
now, the bads...
- poor toby. i hope she gets her happy ending.
- WHERE THE FUCK IS JAMIE did they rly js leave him out there help???? but it makes sense bc it's not like they could've taken him somewhere else but also he's gonna stir some shit up now and im not looking forward to it
- my son ian :( that last panel made me want to throw up too. his habit of blaming himself for everything breaks my heart sm. tj deserved the lashings, ian isnt the one who involved jo in everything, jo's the one who decided to meddle, & the chris and toby thing has nothing to do w him honestly. atp i js wanna see him happy.
- jo.... i've seen a lot of people say the point of involving jo into the whole gang mess is to show he's not gonna make the same choices that tj did, that he's different. which made perfect sense to me but honestly,,,, when is that gonna happen? its lowk been going downhill for that guy ever since ian killed that one person. i thought this chapter would at least address the issue, but it wasn't brought up at all. now ians gone again, and idk. BUT ALSO. im ngl i've always found jo so one dimensional but at least hes a lil more interesting now !!
- the one foreshadowing i keep coming back to is the orion myth that was talked about in one of the initial chapters. correct me if it wasnt actually the orion myth bc i cant find the chap. if yall dont know what it is, its basically about orion & artemis who fall for each other, but apollo (artemis's twin brother) tricks her into killing orion out of jealousy. iirc.
its interesting bc this so obviously alludes to the love triangle in wet sand rn too, with both orion and jo being hunters.
initially i rly did think tj would pull some shitty move like trying to kill jo. but now that we know more about him, i dont think hes the type who would do that...? or maybe im viewing him through rose tinted glasses. the thing is, tj literally said he owes his life to jo (after the car blast scene). so would he really go as far as doing smth to him just out of jealousy? wouldn't he have done that already if so?
- but also. honestly, it depends on tj's mental state rn. like so far i've been thinking tj has hit rock bottom so he can only redeem himself now, but maybe he still has it in him to pull more shit. maybe hearing what ian said to him made him lose his mind or smth. but that does seem a little ooc ngl. idk.
- jo still has those 4 bullets remaining (or does ian have the gun now?). tj's probably gonna find out what happened to ian after the police guy brings him the earrings and chain. ian still doesnt know tj almost died in the car blast. jo doesn't know jackshit about whats actually going on.
anyway, im both excited and dreading finding out about tj's plan bc ik something's going horribly wrong. theres sm im excited to see though: ian finally being happy and free of everything, i wanna see tj overcome his trauma and his insecurities but idk if i'll ever get to, i wanna see jamie dead and mutilated, toby happy somewhere too.
I think TJ is more than capable of killing Jo but with this kind of narrative he would be more inclined to a 'lovers suicide'. Killing Ian or if Ian's ends up dead, then killing himself, after avenging him. His whole reason to exists it's power and Ian and rn he seems to be losing both. But TJ is very strong and a kind of a wild card so who knows what's up to.
I see Jo as a lighthouse, just being there as a trusting light who's waiting for Ian to guide him back home.
But with all of what's happening, this chapter is not about Ian going to end up with TJ than Ian might die and never reunite with Jo at the gas station aka breaking another promise.
And Toby : (
oh yeah tj can def do it but like i said i dont think hes gonna. doyak did say none of them are dying so thats great.... except tj dying at the end wouldve been a lil yum too (IM A TJ STAN BTW DO NOT COME AT ME). anyway anyway the reason im saying this is bc i was rereading this and theres a scene where tj fully acknowledges the fact that he manipulated and guilt tripped ian into staying w him. he says he thought thats what love was, and ends it w saying ian's free from him to do what he wants to do. (this happens before their reunion btw). right after this jo sees ian kill a guy, he crashes out a lil then they make up and have sex and in the middle of it jo says smth like this is all because of that guy isnt it (alluding to tj) and ians like wait what but jo just cuts him off. so they never talk about it. anyway idk idk im probably delusional reading too much into it (it comes w being a tj stan). the fact that none of them are talking about things is so frustrating though UGHDSHKANAIAHAIAAJHAHS IDK HOW THEYRE SUPPOSED TO END THINGS WITHOUT TJ DYING BC THAT JUST MEANS HES GONNA MESS UP BIG TIME IM NOT READY FOR THAT sorry im gonna kms now. and yeah toby :(
I remember an author saying the same thing a very looong time ago, it was a book, but they ended up killing one of the main because it worker and made sense. I have trust issues hahahaha
I hope they all get to live rlly. They're such interesting characters, with flaws, heart and ambitions. But if nobody dies at the end, timeskip is in order then. Showing that everyone survived.
And yeah, TJ's such a manipulative ass sometimes and he guilt tripped Ian but he also twisted his love for him. But at some point they did love each other like Ian said but never put a label on it because a lot of reasons.
Also, Ian is so used to using sex to avoid confronting things that when he's really having actual caring relations he gets all confused because he never knew that kind a tenderness. Even worse when in the middle of it he thought of TJ because that was something TJ conditioned to do. He knows Ian so well. But, a lot lot things don't get resolution and Jo still believes he's a stand in for TJ and can't fully trust Ian because even if he hates it, he gets their relationship. I think Ian is just afraid that Jo will follow that same path TJ did just because Jo wants to be with him.
And to really talk, Ian should stay put but he can't xD the man is always hiding himself or running hahaha
WAIT. youre right she could be lying actually also iirc she didnt say shes not gonna kill any of them she said smth like shes gonna *try* not to kill any of them so... uh... but also im like 100% sure ian isnt dying bc theres obv gonna be an endgame. i dont think jo's dying bc like thats gonna be the shittiest possible outcome. i also dont think tj's gonna die bc thatll mean jo is the endgame but only by default yk? like if jo really is endgame im sure doyak will show ian actively choosing him instead of just killing tj off so there isnt any choice. she could kill him off after ian chooses jo but idk it doesnt seem plausible to me.
& yeah like i LOVE tj to death but i agree that guys fucked in the head. i normally hate weird ass toxic characters but idk his whole characters is just so well written, doyak showing how his upbringing shaped him to be the guy he is today, him being so multi dimensional IM SORRY I JUST LOVE HIM A LOT. & personally i do believe they genuinely loved each other at one point considering ian stayed w him knowing everything taejoon did. but i dont think ian does anymore (sobbing as im typing this)
jo's def the better option IF he doesnt go down the same path as ian did for tj. & YEAH GOD SOMEONE PLEASE LOCK IAN UP BRO WHY CANT HE STAY STILL OMFG?!!??!@??@
jo deteriorating, potential tj redemption arc loading, ian still cunty as fuck, zohran mamdani mayor of new york WE ARE SO BACK
you trying to sneak in tj redemption arc as if its on the same tier lvl as mamdani being the mayor of ny hellur
true its higher
wellllllllllll
basedddd
please do not switch bait me bc i WILL fall for it
Oh I got too happy to consider that-