After seeing a couple commenters also saying this, I’d also like to summarize my two cents about why people have a problem with this series in a whole comment and not just replies:
No, people dont have a problem with this manhwa because of the ‘’dark themes’’. The problem is that the author has a serious problem with adding an overload of graphic and (in the pearl boy original story) TORTUROUS rape scenes every few chapters to the point that it seems almost fetishy.
Yes, these series might be about organized crime, sex trafficking etc., but is the storytelling even taking place atp? Are rape scenes the way we get told the story? Please lets use our brains for a second. Most of these did absolutely nothing to add to the plot (obviously lol) and to act as if this is NECESSARY to see in the context and setting of the series is absolutely insane. Theres plenty series that tackle organized crime and sex trafficking that DONT do this !SO GRAPHICALLY AND OFTEN! and I cannot stress this enough.
In the case of og pearl boy there was so much unnecessary violent rape to the point that the original plot almost got lost in the process. In this side story we couldnt even go on for 4 chapters without drugging, kidnapping and SA. Another 4 chapters later the roles are reversed and we see more SA and also rape.
Stop excusing mediocre writing and borderline weird obsession with sexual violence of this mf author. I feel these series get overhyped because of the artstyle and everything else is overlooked to the point of seeing it as a norm to constantly get fed shitty manhwa and then question why people are even complaining since ‘every other series does it too’
Absolutely agree. This manhwa actually had so much potential, if only there wasn’t any grape and shitass writing involved. Bro, even just seeing characters get graped hurts my hurt — so how can people even continue reading on with these type of stories without feeling any sort of disgust or remorse?
People seriously need to get off the internet and maybe get lives, connect to reality and stop consuming this type of content and just let your frontal lobes develop normally
Literally read this just to see how it ends but I just cant anymore it grosses me out so much I feel sick even thinking about this dogshit manhwa I feel like itll just keep getting worse this author clearly has a rape fetish
So…the author still cannot write and pushes out rape/SA/drug scenes within the span of 4 chapters instead
Minimizing the entire story to just TJ is insanity. Some of you viciously live through Ian and get mad when he chooses peace over misery because that means you wont get to see TJ anymore ((: It’s like Ian doesn’t register as a character for some of you and you ultimately miss the entire point of the story which is MOVING ON. It shows that most of you aren’t reading for the plot, or just reading in general
Ilysm vro never die They gonna hate and dislike your comment but they hated jesus because he told em the truth
Well technically Ian was more miserable than TJ. TJ's one is juz the aftermath of after falling for Ian so hard.
Again, you just proved me right. You get mad when Ian’s choices don’t favour TJ and automatically make TJ into the victim. Have we not been reading the same story? Have you not seen what TJ put Ian through? It’s crazy to portray TJ as a victim of falling in love
Who said he was a victim, I think we readers r the main victims lol
bringing jesus up in an argument about a yaoi is funny sorry
I was referring to you referencing his behaviour as the aftermath of falling for Ian? I also only mentioned misery when comparing the two situations Ian finds himself choosing between (Jo or TJ) & the fact that him being with TJ just made/will make him more “miserable” in the long run…otherwise idk what you were referring to
Both are abnormal. Both lived an unhealthy life
All you guys know is to yap about their chemistry how about you talk about the fact that TJ wouldn’t let Ian pursue a normal life even after seeing how badly he is struggling to keep up with that environment? And how he bound him down with debt? And how he stopped Ian from pursuing his hobby? And how he made Ian feel indebted to him through guilt? Is that love or PERCHANCE unhealthy obsession
he's just being silly possessive, he'll get over it sweetie
Mingwa needs her writing privileges taken away
nah you right,i feel like its the same formula as BJ alex LIKE HIRE A WRITER PLEASE YOUR ART IS GORGEOUS ITS JUST YOUR STORY TELLING SKILLS ASS
I don't agree. She can write about green flag tops. But, stories with toxic semes are more popular and that's what she gives us.
She has only had 1 consistent, healthy top since BJ Alex. Toxicity has layers and in this case it’s not only a personality characteristic but simply overload of rape and SA ☠ most of you are oversimplifying that as simply being “toxic” but mingwa gets lucky since most of her fanbase are teenagers and they don’t see the difference apparently
You must be out of your god damn mind saying this mingwa has only give us once in a life time a good healthy top MD every other character she has ever created is a piece of shit red flag its not that abuse sells is that she simply doesn’t cater to viewers but to herself like she said on her q&a she likes toxicity which toxicity for her is rape abuse and many more
Again, it's up to the writer what they write about. Fact of course is that there is demand for her work, whether from teenagers or other. I suppose her work also caught your attention which is why you're taking the time to comment.
Sure, doesn’t make her “work” less shit. Not all attention is good attention just like not all work is good work
Again, let's not forget the primary goal of a writer is to garner attention for their work, regardless of whether good or bad. Sure, some care about the good but not all do. Something tells me this writer does not care. So in that sense, they have achieved their goal.
This is going way past my main point. I’m saying Mingwa can’t write for shit if it doesn’t involve some sort of SA/rape and that the main fan base of this series is kids which she definitely knows. I don’t give a single shit if this is her goal as a writer, it doesn’t make her and her work less trash. We’re talking about her, not technicalities of being a writer
Mingwa would’ve had a popular second work regardless of the story. It’s the successor to BJ Alex, one of the most influential BL stories in the genre. Had she written a story that was genuinely good, it may have been even more popular. People are only holding on because of the art and to see the redemption.
Take under the green light, another story that’s a successor to an insanely influential story. It’s become another famous work in the genre. Jinx on the other hand? This is now infamous and heavily disliked. People are only sticking around cause it’s Mingwa, not cause they enjoy this trash. It’s like a car crash, you can’t bring yourself to look away because you wanna know how it ends.
Had she written a story that wasn’t so toxic, idk, I think it would’ve done better. I stopped paying for new chapters because it was no longer worthy of my money, and I know a lot of people who did the same.
Tl;dr it wouldn’t have mattered, it would’ve been insanely popular either way. In fact, making it non-toxic would’ve been more beneficial.
This
REAL
I doubt we'll ever know the author's real intention with this story. However, it seems to me that they achieved their goal as they rigidly stand behind their work.
can you guys take this psychosis infused beef to another website instead of flooding the comments thanks
Besides me and someone else. It is just trolls talking to each other impersonating other users. The ones they are impersonating are not getting involved. They will keep harassing this page and make it look like it is the ones they are impersonating again. I decided to impersonate Levi. She feels the same way as the victims but she is gaslighting them. She stands for the trolls impersonating them but she does not like I am impersonating her. A group has it out for 7 people who post facts and are harmless. They need to move on as the victims have
thing is that no one expect you all cares
The ones that is doing this cares. That is why they are doing it. Many cares.
nah i am the one doing this and i dont care. dont tell me i am when im not LMFAOO go vry about being impersonated elsewhere
You care. You care.
You care. You care.
Reiterating: Besides me and someone else. It is just trolls talking to each other impersonating other users. The ones they are impersonating are not getting involved. They will keep harassing this page and make it look like it is the ones they are impersonating again. I decided to impersonate Levi. She feels the same way as the victims but she is gaslighting them. She stands for the trolls impersonating them but she does not like I am impersonating her. A group has it out for 7 people who post facts and are harmless. They need to move on as the victims have
Reiterating: Besides me and someone else. It is just trolls talking to each other impersonating other users. The ones they are impersonating are not getting involved. They will keep harassing this page and make it look like it is the ones they are impersonating again. I decided to impersonate Levi. She feels the same way as the victims ( the real MD and friends) but she is gaslighting them. She stands for the trolls impersonating them because she is a troll (claimed by one of the trolls) but she does not like I am impersonating her. A group has it out for 7 people who post facts and are harmless. They trolls, who is not me, need to move on as the victims ( the real MD and friends) have
yeah still don’t care
I can ensure you nobody but you two schizos care take this fight to twitter or something so people will care shit silly af
I don’t have a beef. There are more than two.
The schizos trolls can move their fight somewhere else. Thanks for putting down the schizos trolls. I am not them. I am not EG. The real users want nothing to do with this. How about you take it to twitter with the trolls. You are the one having problems with it.
i wish you a speedy recovery and little to no side effects while taking psychosis medicine lil dude the voices will stop soon dw
Are you the one taking it? You are unhinged
meow
Ill be all over soon we are all voices inside your head dw
WOOF WOOF
Thank you all for supporting me on my schizophrenic journey
Don’t know why everyone is assuming this but there is NO bestiality ☠ the dog serves for plot purposes
I'm sorry, but when are people going to stop acting like this series is peak? ,,Miss Author can do whatever she wants with her series!!!'' Cool, doesn't make a difference to what I'm going to say.
The fandom swears up and down by this series because of the few fluff/wholesome moments between the MC's (fandom which, disturbingly, seems to be built by young people), that, at this point, have become easily overshadowed by sheer amount of unnecessary violence and (GRUESOME) rape scenes. Deepest apologies for everyone that wanted to read this because they thought it'd be a decent series.
The plot of the story seems to have been lost a long time ago, because at this point, I think some of us forget about the whole ''pearl thing'' Jooha has going on, and instead have to stop and question all the very unnecessary (and FORCED) drama, abuse and rape scenes, which no, they do not add anything onto the story. At the beginning the story was indeed relatively plot heavy, but as it went on, it transformed in whatever the fuck we are seeing now. It comes across as even miss author doesn't know what she's doing after the last few chapter (+ the raws) and is trying to make sense of whatever happened. Shows the series should've ended a long time ago.
If the series didn't have such good art, more people would've dropped this long ago. Imo, the series has been seriously overhyped and I wonder why not that many people are making the remarks I made
That being said, I'm sorry for my fellow people who read this and feel like they've wasted their time. If you're still reading it and actually care about development, expecting something good to happen, I'd lower my expectations!
Kisses
Y’all’s TJ took Ian’s ability to perform motor biking, sent him to jail, tied him to paying him protection money and drove Ian to the point of wanting to commit suicide because of how much he loathes the “gangster” life. Y’all’s TJ also couldn’t own up to being with Ian because of fear of criticism from the gang therefore fucking around with women to keep up his image & hurting Ian in the process but still expecting to come back to him every time with no consequences. Yet everyone will fall flat when another sex scene between them drops and rave about “chemistry” which imo it seems like Ian is very tense and conflicted therefore uncomfortable. Also calling the very protagonist whose life this story is about a piece of shit is since this is all about how hard it is to get a fresh start. I feel like most are losing the plot and only focus on their faves & fundamentally ignoring the story building
I don't understand how they come to have so much hate for Ian. First it was them raving about TJ deserve better and now we got Jo Stan losing every brain cells and their reading comprehension ability because apparently Ian strung him along eventho there a chapter of Jo imagining Ian and TJ fucking. A chapter of Jo seeing Ian running out after TJ and stop Ian from going to TJ. Chapters of Ian basically leaving Jo on standby to be with TJ and bro know it too. A chapter of Ian telling Jo he killed someone when he was in the gang. A chapter of Ian saying that TJ is his only family and best friend. A chapter of Ian killing someone out of Jo sake because he thought Jo would be in danger. And now him saying he doesn't want to go back to the old time. He think he isn't worth it as a person and is glad he didn't write that he would come back just so he won't be making empty promise. He has reflect and progress little by little bit they be fuming over a sex scene.
Agreed! Ian being with TJ will only get him hurt or killed. With all the suspense the arthor is building up, someone is bound to get shot or stabbed. My money is on TJ with all the enemies he made, but honestly it could be any of them or all of them.
They refuse to open their eyes.
Wetsand fans complaining about plot as if the plot is any different than any bl out there. Chill out, maybe if u stop interacting with the fandom maybe be less intense about this story. I just come drop by here every other week and came back. There's a war zone over fictional characters
Most series lack plot so yes, when one does end up to have plot but the entire fandom misses the whole point in order to dickride their favourites it’s kind of crazy, no? I like the series and dislike the insane misinterpretation so I comment, simple. You’re free to not engage
Wow, did I trigger something? Chill out for moment and think about what you're arguing in the first place, the story isn't even finish yet. No need to accumulate all the stress over people who are like 23 members reading and commenting here now and then. The people you've talked about are probably the same person and what's worse they're probably 12 years old, so dw not all the fandom have gone ballistic.
? I’m just voicing my opinion? No one’s popping a vein here? I’m confused what your problem is? There’s enough to talk about even with the story not being finished so if people want to discuss let them discuss? It’s not that deep?
Now, you're spinning it. What a pointless conversation, you're the one who said to not ignore the other plot and I'm the one who said you can chill out the people you're talking to are probably tiktok 12 years old who just got out of their roblox grow a garden.
Flooding my comment for no damn reason it’s not that deep, just don’t engage you’d be surprised how many people of age don’t get the point either, ignorance doesn’t discriminate. Don’t get why you keep feeling like letting me know ngl
It makes no sense to ask someone if they’re “triggered” when they’re simply voicing frustration about how a rare series with genuinely good writing is being dragged through the mud by mischaracterization. Honestly, you sound foolish coming here, huffing and puffing over someone expressing frustration especially when they’re not even picking a fight with you. And so what if they’re 12 years old? By that age, reading comprehension and understanding a character are skills you should already have.
It's crazy how much readers tend to gloss over these facts, but I suspect it's because they're children who read this and they prove why they shouldnt be consuming adult media, lol. TJ and Ian definitely love each other and can very well be endgame, but it's so tiring when the author makes the MC choose the very person that catalyzed so much of their trauma and pain. I'm not saying that TJ is past the point of forgiveness, but I'm saying their relationship has had 10+ years to evolve and it hasn't, at a certain point Ian needs to detach himself from this trauma bond with TJ and move on before it gets him killed. Every time those two have sex it feels like going back to that toxic ex you know you shouldnt be seeing but you do because its a warm and familiar feeling, even if it leaves a bitter taste in the back of your throat. They both need fresh starts and need to start realizing that sex can hold so much of a relationship together. That love they share behind closed doors eventually needs to be shown to the world, in some way.
Exactly! Its refreshing seeing that some people in the replies here & comments in general get it and actually understand the context clues / story building itself I used to fight for my life in these comments a few months ago with chapter references and they still wouldn’t get it / refuse to understand lmao I didn’t expect that for so many people reading comprehension is a skill learned at a late point in life