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hontobl August 25, 2025 10:50 am

Correct me if am wrong, I see something coming and I'm ready for it

hontobl August 25, 2025 10:45 am

I find it really interesting how much people love and cherish Aeroc—though I do too. It just goes to show what slow punishment and pain can accomplish in a story. If Kloff had simply killed Aeroc right after discovering his role in the death of his mate and unborn child—if he had tortured or executed him—readers would have probably said, “Yes, he deserved it,” and moved on.

But instead, the author chose to show us Aeroc’s slow punishment—his struggles, his past and present, and the weight of his sins. By the end, even though Kloff still couldn’t forgive him because of what happened, there was a strange kind of bond between them, one that had started back in season 1.

Now it feels like many people have forgotten the original tragedy, the lives that were lost, and instead we’re all rooting for them both. Honestly, that’s amazing to me. Correct me if I’m wrong, because there are still parts I don’t fully understand.

    Kacchan August 26, 2025 12:14 am

    I thought about that, and I think it's cause we understand Aeroc's motivations for his actions. The fact that he was denied love from a young age, and then decided to seek it out from the person he first fell in love with. I think that's part of the reason we love Aeroc so much. He was just an innocent character that was driven by a love that he didn't managed to ever experience from anyone else, and used wrong ways (since he didn't know how else to do it) to seek it out from Kloff.

    ok_but_why1206 August 26, 2025 3:45 am
    I thought about that, and I think it's cause we understand Aeroc's motivations for his actions. The fact that he was denied love from a young age, and then decided to seek it out from the person he first fell i... Kacchan

    I wouldn't say innocent. Though his emotions were innocent and he was driven with obsessive love (let's be for real, it was obsession), his actions toward Kloff's mate were repulsive and worse than cruel. I wouldn't entirely blame him for the deaths, but he knew he wanted Kloff's mate to hurt just as he is hurting. In the end he is a product of his upbringing. As you mentioned, he was missing the love he should have recieved from a young age. His intentions weren't fueled by malice, but he did, although unintentionally, kill Kloffs mate and his baby. I'm not even going to talk about the things Kloff did to Aeroc in the first timeline, he was just despicable. That can't be excused or justified at all, but he didn't do it for no reason. Again, not defending him. They were both cruel, though I would say that Aeroc in no way desereved the life he was forced to lead. It was a tragedy. Kloff should have just killed him if he wanted to get even. The pain Aeroc went through made me very emotional. Especially the rape, the counless miscarriages, and the forced pregnancies.

    ok_but_why1206 August 26, 2025 3:46 am
    I thought about that, and I think it's cause we understand Aeroc's motivations for his actions. The fact that he was denied love from a young age, and then decided to seek it out from the person he first fell i... Kacchan

    Holy, I typed a lot, sorry for that. ╥﹏╥

    SadQuacks August 26, 2025 7:33 am
    I wouldn't say innocent. Though his emotions were innocent and he was driven with obsessive love (let's be for real, it was obsession), his actions toward Kloff's mate were repulsive and worse than cruel. I wou... ok_but_why1206

    Aeroc for me would have moved on properly if he was allowed to. I’m not defending him, he should have taken that cruise like he said..but connecting what Kloff said in Vol 2. He described his relationship and future marriage boring, so he kept riling up Aeroc because thrilled him using Rapiel as an object to envied. The mind games sadly fucked up Aeroc. I feel bad for Aeroc, he genuinely wanted love, he was awkward and comes out as cold and arrogant. But Kloff created this monster out of that, trying to prove his superiority, he punished Aeroc for his own game.

    I think by innocent.. he’s incredibly naive, showing how he is easily scammed. He instructed the thugs to scare Rapiel, thinking that they wouldn’t go that far… it’s stupid but he did allow himself to be caught in Kloff’s trap when he was invited to stay in the estate after Kloff bought it. Drinking the medication without thinking why it was making him feel weird…

    U_A August 26, 2025 11:59 am

    Humans have an intuitive sense of where punishment ends and injustice begins. We can often feel the moment when accountability crosses into cruelty, especially when both the punished and those around them begin to suffer unnecessarily. The key difference in your example is that Aeroc eventually acknowledged his wrongdoing whether intentional or not which opened a path toward redemption. Kloff, however, either refused to acknowledge his actions or was denied the same chance for redemption, despite showing recognition later in his third life.

    This distinction mirrors real-life situations, like in the Reddit post “TIFU by calling my mother a homewrecker.” In that story, you can see how punishment is valid only until it becomes a way to satisfy selfish motives. Once punishment is used as a tool for personal gratification, it shifts into cruelty or even crime. Psychologically, this is where sympathy changes: we stop empathizing with the punisher and begin to empathize with the punished, because we recognize the imbalance of justice.

    hontobl August 27, 2025 8:52 pm

    Thanks you all.

    Amen glad we didn't forget what led to all this mess. I just hope this new world will give use something to look forward to, after all, kloff mate is alive here, so that's great right?

    It felt like he never died

    hontobl August 27, 2025 8:53 pm
    Thanks you all.Amen glad we didn't forget what led to all this mess. I just hope this new world will give use something to look forward to, after all, kloff mate is alive here, so that's great right?It felt lik... hontobl

    Sorry for the typos, wasn't thinking straight and am bloody exhausted.

    ok_but_why1206 August 28, 2025 5:12 am
    Aeroc for me would have moved on properly if he was allowed to. I’m not defending him, he should have taken that cruise like he said..but connecting what Kloff said in Vol 2. He described his relationship and... SadQuacks

    Yes! Rather than being innocent, you're absolutely right to say naive. He was so gullible of the world around him. He told the thugs to "punish" but they took it too far, and he was also always scammed into investing as well. It's sad the way things turned out for him since his intentions weren't to be hostile; and like I mentioned before, poor Aeroc was motivated by blinding love rather than malice.

    BigJello August 30, 2025 1:17 am
    Humans have an intuitive sense of where punishment ends and injustice begins. We can often feel the moment when accountability crosses into cruelty, especially when both the punished and those around them begin... U_A

    This is so beautifully written, it describes perfectly the course of events from the first timeline and the conflicting feelings in the 2nd. Thank you.

    U_A August 30, 2025 8:46 am
    This is so beautifully written, it describes perfectly the course of events from the first timeline and the conflicting feelings in the 2nd. Thank you. BigJello

    Awww thank you

    Kim Dokjas Thighs September 3, 2025 11:05 pm

    The reason I don’t hate Aeroc too much is because he had never truly wanted to kill Rapiel and his kid. He did on accident. But it was never his intention. And also because be repented after suffering so much. Having those men beat up Rapiel was wrong of course, but not completely unforgivable by itself. The murder and rape just added to it and his silence on the matter. But tbh, most people who do bad things no matter how small keep silent about it. Many readers off aren’t beating people up and accidentally killing people, but there’s a lot of shit and bad things we still do that we don’t tell anyone about. So, him keeping quiet isn’t the worst to me either ig…

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hontobl May 27, 2021 8:23 am

Morning guys,
can anyone recommend me an editing tool, that I can use for manga, one that will work on my PC, I have tried a lot but no one is working.
Pls, pls

    Sure Innocent May 27, 2021 8:28 am

    I don't know hot to draw and dont have pc but try to use medibang or ibispaint

    light May 27, 2021 8:36 am

    If ur talking abt scanlating, then photoshop is good! But if ur gon start drawing manga, then photoshop is good too and most ppl use clip studio paint

    hontobl May 27, 2021 9:26 am
    I don't know hot to draw and dont have pc but try to use medibang or ibispaint Sure Innocent

    Tnx

    hontobl May 27, 2021 9:26 am
    If ur talking abt scanlating, then photoshop is good! But if ur gon start drawing manga, then photoshop is good too and most ppl use clip studio paint light

    Tnx u a bunch

    hontobl May 27, 2021 9:27 am
    If ur talking abt scanlating, then photoshop is good! But if ur gon start drawing manga, then photoshop is good too and most ppl use clip studio paint light

    But what kind of Photoshop...there are a lot right

    light May 27, 2021 9:37 am
    But what kind of Photoshop...there are a lot right hontobl

    CC2019

hontobl April 19, 2021 3:46 pm

Pls guys am looking for a yaoi manga ..I don't really remember much but I know that it all about entertainment industry and the second couple is just like this....the Mc is a crossdresser working for the entertainment and he is big something while the uke is a stubborn guy who was inlove with the mc of the first couple.... I think, pls help.... I tried looking for it and I can't give much details

    Hua cheng April 19, 2021 3:49 pm

    Is it lost virgin??

    hontobl April 19, 2021 4:16 pm
    Is it lost virgin?? Hua cheng

    OMG, that's it, you are great.... I love U
    Hahaha funny enough I pass it several times without knowing...
    Thanks again

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