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just saw a comment say "groveling tax," what the fuck .

coz not everyone sympathize and tolerates shitty behaviors? lmao chasing arcs makes for good plot and character development (mostly) which btw is a core element of a decent story; if I wanted just realism why bother reading fiction at all? I live in reality already, plenty of people with even worse personalities than these characters, why on earth would I want media contents (w/c I use to escape from reality) to bleed in these type of people as is with no development or plot direction? that's so pointless, even autobiographies from actual people are tweaked to to show plotlines and arcs to make it engaging.

I feel like this is ragebait but I just can't prove it yet. Also give me sources that support the "chasing arcs are a core element of a decent story" because this is so out of pocket I have never heard of this my whole life.

Go read fairytales if you can't handle a little bit of morally grey characters or actions. Just because it's fiction doesn't mean everything should be all sunshine and rainbows and molded for the audience's satisfaction.

lol sources for wat? u never been to primary school fam? it's literally taught that a good story needs plot and character development to make it at least good, and chasing arcs is one of the plot devices that allows that since it showcases the progression of the plot and the changes that that the characters went throughout throughout the story. I like morally grey characters myself but this one ain't it, wat u think acting problematic is all good so long as they have a sob story to back it up? lmao, how basic is ur taste? probably worse than mine then.

And it is having plot and character development, it's just not the way you lot want it. You're sounding like a broken record with this chasing arc shit when the story hasn't even picked up yet since jiho came back to Korea. Who knows what'll happen in the next chapters? Maybe it will have one but that doesn't mean that's the only way to have character progression. If jiho and yujun are together again, why can't they heal together and sort their problems together, why does one have to grovel to the deepest pits of the earth just so they can get a pass? And I'm not defending jiho's actions but who are you to say what one should or should not do, everyone has different ways of coping. Maybe you just don't have the mental capacity to understand a complex character that's why it's so quick to label someone as problematic but what would I know, I may be talking to a twelve year old and I wouldn't know. But what I know for sure is that you don't like the story that you are reading so kindly just drop it if you hate it so much and stop ruining it for the people who wants to read in peace.

dafuq? now who's assuming things here now? character development where? it's already ch42 and the build up for the mc to have more self respect just went back to square one with that simp move. Also did I say that chasing arcs are the only way? I said it's "one of the plot devices" to have that, and yes a story can NOT have chasing arcs for the characters to develop and the plot to proceed, wanting accountability for the problematic acts a character did aint the same as wanting chasing arcs either-- a character can reflect and improve by themselves without relying or chasing another person, which is also why I personally prefer them not being together (yet), they're both problematic af like ur real life friend that never learns and keeps getting back to their ex, but then drains your energy by venting out to u that they're hurt and want to be better (w/o actually doing anything to be better), this is why it's a frustrating and unsatisfying read, that shit's already what I have at home, don't need it in my fiction too.

And fyi, sources are cited to support statements otherwise, whatever you just said is insubstantial. You clearly haven't done any research in your whole life based on your response. I feel sorry that your education failed in educating you, if you ever had one.

Damn, I guess I'm sorry that you don't have a happy life?

lol just go to any basic ass educ website or browser, quick search elements of a story and there's the shit your craving about all laid out for your eyes to see in easy digestible wordings too, u want sources I doubt you'll even read it if I give you a list, quit bluffing you look pathetic.

did I say that? again, comprehension is really lost on u, and it's u who feel bad for my education? lol, I said it's frustrating not that it affects me too much that it makes me unhappy for the entirety of my life, because just like my friends irl I want these characters to have better development and better life, but nah we have readers like u who insists complex/gray = problematic when it's really not

Oh sure give me some, I'd love to read them

So in conclusion, you want to be happy and you want the characters to be happy. Then I have a very great proposition to you! You can either go find another story to read or you can write your own fanfiction. You don't have to be lounging in the comments section looking for people to fight with you, y'know

here's a few of the top ones that I have on hand, there's more but these are more recent and aligns with the topic at hand. I ain't giving a free copy, buy and support the researchers if you really are set on reading it like u said:


(Green, M. et al (2024) Narrative transportation: How stories shape how we see ourselves and the world) -- This one cited the effect of narratives in actually persuading/influencing its audience's behaviors, w/c is why I will always call out accountability for shitty actions by characters so the dimwits who thinks these are okay just coz it's fiction can somehow be reduced even by just a fraction of a percent.

(Wimmer, L. et al (2021) Reading Fictional Narratives to Improve Social and Moral Cognition: The Influence of Narrative Perspective, Transportation, and Identification) -- This one actually contradicts the one above and concluded that narratives alone don't necessarily affect a reader's social or moral compass, rather it's on the reader's existing traits such as empathy that heightens familiarity/identification to the characters/plot which then influence their behavior after reading, so if you're already a pos and reads works with pos characters, that has better chances of amplifying your problematic behavior (not guaranteed, but more likely)

(Lehne, M. et al (2015) Tension–resolution patterns as a key element of aesthetic experience: Psychological principles and underlying brain mechanisms) -- This one backed up how anticipation and tension-resolution aka actually giving satisfying plot that makes sense is neurologically more enjoyable and fulfilling for consumers of media (not just books)

also a bonus:
(Cohen, AL, et al (2015) The Power of the Picture: How Narrative Film Captures Attention and Disrupts Goal Pursuit) -- This one's on films, not comics, but it explores the attachment that audience experience towards characters when consuming media even when fully aware that these are not real people nor real situations, further emphasizing that the empathy derives heavily on one's personal experience.

nah, once again, comprehension eludes you so fast, it's ridiculous at this point. Did I say I want happiness? a happy ending? I said better life for the characters; a person abused in a prison and gets paroled will still suffer with all the discrimination and hardship in the outside world, but by god is that not better than living day to day in actual hell instead? Similarly a person who only wants to be with one person is in a better situation without them if being together means breaking each other bit by bit until they completely lose themselves in the end. Also why can't I read this and comment how I want? I'm not the only one who shares the same thought anyway + it's my right just like how it's ur right to disagree, I'm arguing because I have a point to make, and I will call out things which I deem worthy of being called out

I'm so proud of you. I give you five stars for this. Now you can formulate your research questions and write an introduction to your paper. See, you can still learn in mangago this is so funny

Oh honey I've missed you where have you been all this time

of course, wen people like u is backed up and got caught tripping on ur shit, called out on ur bluff and bs ya'll always, ALWAYS really do resort to petty humor to try and salvage very little sense u have, I was expecting a few more coherent argument before that, u gave in easy, wow ur much easier than others lmao

wen can't argue try to deflect, lol what a kid, wonder if ur the same users I've argued with before, ya'll have the same tactic in ur responses wen backed up to a corner. U should touch some grass or find work to answer that, then maybe u won't have to ask why people are not on this site 24/7.

I know it was so fun playing with you lmfao. I didn't even take you seriously in the first place. You were crying about getting blocked and you so seemed lonely looking for people to force your opinion into so why not just humor you for a bit. Your mind is closed and you used ad hominem at me as your first rebuttal, I just knew this person is a child. At least I had fun, I didn't waste any effort in writing tons of paragraphs and it was damn funny trolling you. I made good use of my time. This was good entertainment.

Just a friendly advice though; nobody cares what you have to say and no matter how much you keep the conversion going, your words don't really have much substance as you think it does. At the very least you researched your very first rrls so congrats to you

I know it was so fun playing with you lmfao. I didn't even take you seriously in the first place. You were crying about getting blocked and you so seemed lonely looking for people to force your opinion into so why not just humor you for a bit. Your mind is closed and you used ad hominem at me as your first rebuttal, I just knew this person is a child. At least I had fun, I didn't waste any effort in writing tons of paragraphs and it was damn funny trolling you. I made good use of my time. This was good entertainment.

Just a friendly advice though; nobody cares what you have to say and no matter how much you keep the conversion going, your words don't really have that much substance that you think it does. At the very least you researched your very first rrls so congrats to you

I know it was so fun playing with you lmfao. I didn't even take you seriously in the first place. You were crying about getting blocked and you so seemed lonely looking for people to force your opinion into so why not just humor you for a bit. Your mind is closed and you used ad hominem at me as your first rebuttal, I just knew this person is a child. At least I had fun, I didn't waste any effort in writing tons of paragraphs and it was damn funny trolling you. I made good use of my time. This was good entertainment.

Just a friendly advice though; nobody cares what you have to say and no matter how much you keep the conversion going, your words don't really have much substance as you think it does. At the very least you researched your very first rrls so congrats to you

I know it was so fun playing with you lmfao. I didn't even take you seriously in the first place. You were crying about getting blocked and you so seemed lonely looking for people to force your opinion into so why not just humor you for a bit. Your mind is closed and you used ad hominem a at me as your first rebuttal, I just knew this person is child. At least I had fun, I didn't waste any effort in writing tons of paragraphs and it was damn funny trolling you. I made good use of my time. This was good entertainment.

Just a friendly advice though; nobody cares what you have to say and no matter how much you keep the conversion going, your words don't really have much substance as you think it does. At the very least you researched your very first rrls so congrats to you

everything just to keep urself feeling good huh? try pandering to urself harder, u just look pitiful. U call me a kid? then what r u an underdeveloped embryo? lmao. I posted what I did because as I said I had a point to make, and the user who blocked me specifically did so just so it feels like they had the last say on a topic that I personally feel harmful and problematic. U think if a poster posted something about liking shota and I called them out on it then get blocked I'll just leave it be? hell no, I'll put it out there that not everyone agrees and tolerates it because these people clearly needs someone opposing their views, NOT validating it. Also you say nobody cares what I say? the fact that I have reactions both agreeing and disagreeing on my comments clearly refutes that.

I know it was so fun playing with you lmfao. I didn't even take you seriously in the first place. You were crying about getting blocked and you so seemed lonely looking for people to force your opinion into so why not just humor you for a bit. Your mind is closed and you used ad hominem at me as your first rebuttal, I just knew this person is a child. At least I had fun, I didn't waste any effort in writing tons of paragraphs and it was damn funny trolling you. I made good use of my time. This was good entertainment.

Just a friendly advice though; nobody cares what you have to say and no matter how much you keep the conversion going, your words don't really have much substance as you think it does. At the very least you researched your very first rrls so congrats to you

I know, it was so fun playing with you lmfao. I didn't even take you seriously in the first place. You were crying about getting blocked and you so seemed lonely looking for people to force your opinion into so why not just humor you for a bit. Your mind is closed and you used ad hominem at me as your first rebuttal, I just knew this person is a child. At least I had fun, I didn't waste any effort in writing tons of paragraphs and it was damn funny trolling you. I made good use of my time. This was good entertainment.

Just a friendly advice though; nobody cares what you have to say and no matter how much you keep the conversion going, your words don't really have much substance as you think it does. At the very least you researched your very first rrls so congrats to you

Ii meant to like it but disliked the coment on accident. But yea tots agree. Nngl i wanted to milk him too

Literallyyyy, ive read hate mate and i loveddd it cause it was so raw and real and was focused on telling a story not a formulaic trope mix to sell sex to goons (not that im not a reader like that lmao but still), so i know to expect a STORY from this, and that theres no black and white villains between them (other than jihos parents they can die), and you can understand them both, but people here are too used to black and white stories and siding with one character stubbornly, and also ive read like 600 comics here now and a shitton of tops are manipulative and abusive and the sex is less than consensual and people are drooling for those tops in comments but somehow have their pitchforks against jiho and its breaking my heart and i dont get ittttt.

Like looking at it that way yes dealing with someone elses mental health issues isnt your responsibility, but i know if i were him i wouldnt be able to turn away someone i know is in that state either, ESPECIALLY if its the person i love as much as i pretend I don’t, my conscience and heart wouldnt let me say go deal with shit yourself, as long as i could do something about it. So i cant get someone criticizing yujun for not being a stone cold ass and “being weak” and giving in,

And then i didnt criticize jiho for leaving that way (it was out of his hands anyway) and lets not pretend calling him a slut for being with someone else when he wasnt with yujun isnt misogynistic, its giving “a girl should be a virgin before meeting future husband” even tho there was no foreseeable future in which they would meet again……. Same thought process. But also it wasn’t like he was out there enjoying himself being with that guy, that relationship was literally another form of self harm cause his self esteem was THAT low…..

but especially now my brain is breaking from the idea to call him manipulative for the state he’s in. Like how is someones thought process to think “he harmed himself for the attention” LIKE BITCH EVEN IF THATS TRUE IF HIS MENTAL STATE IS BAD ENOUGH THAT HED GO TO THOSE LENGTHS FOR ATTENTION THEN SHOULDNT YOU THINK HES ESPECIALLY IN DESPERATE NEED OF HELP EITHER WAY????? I wanna pull my hair out

THISSS UR SO RIGHT also i noticed that in bl in general bottoms are treated more harshly than tops. like tops can be forgiven rape and abuse but the moment a bottom does something wrong, they get a worse treatment than the tops ever get. they also ALWAYS get slut shamed but no one gives a fuck when tops fuck other guys
and if i say misogyny got something to do with it..

You’re right. It’s absolutely misogyny the way tops are seen as more of a ‘man’ and bottoms as ‘feminine’ some fujos project badly and it’s evident in this comment section

Who’s milton again

Do you have the link !?????

The cow

https://x.com/NACHIOFAMR/status/1969476808807759932?t=32qaa5cnxqgMlII1hvKOdA&s=19

https://x.com/NACHIOFAMR/status/1969698679566020892?t=32qaa5cnxqgMlII1hvKOdA&s=19

God blesz

Real.

Fr same

I MEANT TO LIKE, SORRYYY

HUH???