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comparing this with that is like comparing flaming garbage with absolute dung. people will never stop shitting on the things they hate, and this story just so happens to be the one thats more known. so no, they will probably never get tired of complaining, and i think thats fine when the story's literal cheeks.

Fr I don’t understand either, there are like hundreds of other stories out there that are arguable worse in writing, art, narrative and smut

Both are peak

Fax

pirating stuff is different from being into rape

EXACTLYYY

Funny how you suddenly draw the line when both involve consuming something unethical for personal enjoyment. You're not morally superior for picking and choosing your vices, you're just selectively self-righteous. Sit down

They are so stupid they don't realise their stupid logic is the same thing as saying everybody who enjoys horror movies are psychopaths LMAO.

People who watch and like SAW 1 2 3 4...10 do not enjoy to watch people being tortured in real life dumb fucks you're so stupid I pity you all. It's good to see cause we know it ain't real. Get out of here

I know, right? The act like enjoying dark fiction means endorsing it in real life, which is the same brain-dead logic as saying horror fans wanna be serial killers.

The fact they can’t separate fiction from reality isn’t the moral flex they think it is. It just makes them look emotionally stunted and incapable of coping like a grown adult.

Well actually

There is a massive difference between pirating content to access art you cant afford and actively enjoying contect that eroticizes rape. One is about access and copyright laws and the other is about consuming materia that glorifies violence and sexual assault pretending those are morally equal is stupid reasoning, drawing lines between types of harm isnt hypocrisy its about having a moral compass clown

I don't think you understand, rape is something completely unforgivable, somebody cannot be reformed from being a rapist they will always be a rapist, pirating content is forgivable and you can be reformed from being a thief they're both very different things you cannot call somebody a hypocrite for disliking things that have constant rape in them just because they pirate shit

This is a preposterous statement because do you think the people reading this manhwa are actually culpable of rape irl?? Piracy is something that will always exist and we will always engage in, but it ultimately hurts a real person’s bottom line and is the reason why the manhwa industry is the way it is today. People who spend all their time with their thumbs up their ass on mangago have no right to complain about how “bad” the content is.

you just basically called the readers–rapists with that argument

Idc about the people who read this knowing all the trigger warnings and wound up “traumatized”. you steal someone’s shit and it ends up exploding in your face. It’s divine at that point. If you think you’re entitled to someone else’s labor because you don’t personally like their content then you should continue to be triggered miserable.

You're not making the point you think you are. Both involve knowingly engaging with something considered unethical by broader standards for personal gratification. The only difference is you dressed yours up in moral convenience.

You’re not a beacon of moral clarity for having a personal hierarchy of sins, bro. Nobody said the acts themselves are equal. The point is you’re still here, willingly consuming something you claim to find unforgivable. You don’t get to posture on a high horse while sitting in the same room. Moral consistency isn’t about ranking your vices, it’s about recognizing when you’re in the mud with the rest of us.

Uhhh, do you not realize the irony in what you're saying? Pirating directly hurts a real, living author’s livelihood, while fiction... no matter how dark doesn’t harm anyone but a drawing lol

You just killed that high horse bitch right now LMAO

Girl you're emptying a clip into a coffin rn

Equating piracy with reading rape fantasy is a false equivalency. One is theft that hurts the creators livelihood and the other normalizes sexual violence with real social harm. Pretending they are the same is ignorance dressed up as ethics. People reading all this bull crap and normalizing it could impact society to not take vicitms seriously. I am not a good person for not supporting the authors but that does not make us the same. You are pirating content AND support a disgusting behaviour of rape/gangrape

I do read manhwas/mangas that include themes of rape but my focus is that the victim's get justice. I do not continue reading if the same acts continue and there seems to be no end. I am not here to enjoy violence I want to see accountability and growth and I wont support stories that ignore that

I think I would know considering the fact that one of my works has been posted here and is still currently being uploaded rape permanently traumatizes somebody being pirated Maybe hurts you a little but you aren't traumatized from it don't even compare it

and I'm not saying somebody's a terrible person for occasionally reading this kind of content I do on occasion as well a lot of people do, but the difference between somebody mainly reading this kind of content and somebody reading it on occasion is that one of them is fetishizing rape itself

Um, you’re really out here claiming "one of my works is posted here" while still using this site like that somehow makes you morally licensed to pirate.

"somebody being pirated maybe hurts you a little" Please be for real. The authors from the Korean webtoon industry literally reiterate multiple times on social media to not read their works on illegal sites cause it harms their livelihood. If you actually knew what it felt like as a creator as you "claim" to be, you wouldn’t be here either.

And let’s not act like dark fiction "permanently traumatizes" a drawing. It’s literally pixels on a screen. You’re mad at fiction for existing but fine with hurting real creators wallets. That’s not morality, that’s hypocrisy with extra steps.

And that whole "if you read it often you must fetishize it" logic is soooo tiring. Frequency doesn’t equal advocacy. Just like watching horror movies every weekend doesn’t mean you fantasize about dismembering people. Not everyone consumes fiction through your weird, insecure lens. Projecting your personal discomfort onto others isn’t a flex either.

you'd be extremely surprised at how many authors pirate other works i know SEVERAL im not saying that a decent amount of them suffer from it because they do i won't deny that, but it doesn't traumatize them, if anything the publishing companies are the biggest issue considering they take most of the profit from authors and overwork them which ive seen time and time again, this kind of content has been PROVEN to harm people which is why sexualizing rape and other things is not okay?? i have zero idea why thats so hard for you to understand

not to mention a lot of people who read these DO fetishize it and dont see it as actual rape, which is a problem

You completely missed the point. It’s fiction. Reading it doesn’t "support" anything except the idea that people can engage with dark, uncomfortable stories without it reflecting on their real-life morals. By your logic, people who play FPS games are shooters, horror fans are murderers, and anyone who watches a show with a bad ending is a sociopath. The fact that you can’t separate fiction from reality just makes you sound unfit to engage with media like an adult.

And for someone so concerned about "real harm," you're still pirating and hurting actual creators livelihoods while pretending it’s a lesser evil. Spoiler: it’s not. You’re not better because you slapped a moral excuse on your theft. Either stop moralizing or get off the site you claim to hate so much. Nobody forced you to be here.

Yes, the industry has problems. Yes, companies exploit artists. None of that magically makes piracy righteous or gives you a moral hall pass for being here? "Other authors do it too" is the weakest deflection imaginable, my god.

And as for "this kind of content has been PROVEN to harm people" uhhh, no, what’s been shown is that people with poor media literacy and pre-existing biases misuse fiction. The issue isn’t the story existing, it’s how insecure people project their own hangups onto it. The content isn’t advocating for anything, it’s literally a fictional narrative. Just like the other people mentioned in this thread, horror, crime dramas, war films, or violent video games, it’s not meant to be a guidebook for life. This is why we have fiction and non-fiction genre.

Also, your logic that "some people fetishize it" so it’s inherently bad is nonsense. The problem lies with the person, not the pixels, not the creator.

You’re trying so hard to justify a double standard and it’s transparent.

I never thought about it until now but you're right. A lot of purists think the exact same and always tries to justify their actions loool

Can't you understand that the only ones "normalizing" rape here is you and your delusional friends? It's fantasy for God's sake. Just like enjoying a horror movie where a bunch of people get killed and tortured. No one is called a serial killer for enjoying horror movies grow up.

Lowkey curious about what work it is that someone deigned to upload on a mostly porn site

And here we are, all collectively reading and supporting that same rape manhwa on the piracy website. Now let’s all join hands and sing Kumbayah.

COOOOOKKKKKKKKK

What moral compass? Obviously you don’t have one when you are also participating in stealing from the authors. Fictional rape hurts no one except your fragile little mind that can’t separate it from reality. What actually hurts real life authors is their pockets you are actively stealing from. So don’t act like you have morals when you are here.