Ilona's Topics (4)

dont forget they went to a totally different world they were teens when they died breh so it's understandable that they acting like that

plus your environment is what shapes you not you age they went thru extreme physical and mental abuse bro

I just feel that for someone who has been abused and are "afraid to establish a closeness with others" they are very quick to trust the evil character. Lmao the girl is literally crushing on a kid (when her mental age is like 23) like ???? The author really dumbs them down in certain situations to fit the narrative.

Agree..

But she doesn’t want revenge cause these people technically haven’t done anything wrong to her yet. Wouldn’t it be weirder if she did want revenge? Honestly just let people live their lives not everyone is that petty. (Don’t get me wrong I still love Aria).

You clearly didn't understand the story. They haven't done anything to her yet. The princess was the one doing all of the bad things.

Well if you truly read and understand the story you’ll know that the FL doesn’t want revenge since she was the one doing all of the evil deeds. But Cheating men must die is a good story with a strong FL

But she was never wronged? If anything she was the evil one?

While I'm not tired of this trope yet I kind of want one of someone who read a whole bunch of these stories and then gets reincarnated. But instead of starting from the very beginning they more or less stay the villain because their "research" (aka all the reincarnation books they read) shows how they always majorly change the story and gain unwanted lovers etc.

I want a FL who's still a jerk, but not an asshole because while they're trying to stick to the story they're still their own person and cant really order someone to be killed and stuff. And then when they get to the climax of the story they sag and sigh and say "finally" because now they can live that quiet life they wanted and reveale to everyone they were simply playing a role they didnt want to in order to survive or something.

Like if the ML has his sword to her throat about to kill her she just starts crying tears of joy and says she hated who she needed to be but had to in order to make sure everything worked out.

Then we get the story of her living her life somewhere simple, but everyone she wronged is constantly watching her because they dont believe her and stuff

I'm interested but you lost me in the second part, how "confessing" she only played a role is supposed to work? She is only going to be beheaded at that pace.

Probably the closes to this concept are:

"My lady just wants to relax"
"Lady Rose wants to be a commoner"
"The Daughter of the Albert House Wishes for Ruin"
" Now That I've Been Chosen to Be the Villainess, I'll Show You an Elegant Performance!"
"A Red Rose Devoted to You"
"For Certain Reasons, the Villainess Noble Lady Will Live Her Post-Engagement Annulment Life Freely"

Well I'm thinking of having a few "background" characters she actually spared come forward and exclaim how they thought she was different in (blank) moments.

Like in this story the OG girl orders the little boy to be murdered and no one would really think twice. But her being kind is making everyone panic.

So maybe a few maids who weren't punished as harsh as they were supposed to. Some commoners who she actually helped when no one was looking. And maybe a war general or two who she helped out with obvious modern world ideas come forward to all vouch for her.

Idk it was just a thought I had.

Maybe it could also be that the day things "set" she simply disappears (like she actually saved money and books it instead of how these comics have the girls abandon the runaway idea instantly).

And the comic could end with them finally "finding" her, but what they found is her grave in a small town where she was loved by everyone. We hear stories the townsfolk say about her and her generosity. No one can believe it (you know cause she was such a b*tch to them all), and then they all meet some of the kids she helped care for and they tell them about the stories she'd come up with. Their favorite being her own story of a girl from the future being reincarnated into a villain and staying the villain because she wanted the story book characters to be happy.

Then in the last few panels we get a sort if "angel beats" ending where now all the medieval characters are reborn in modern society, and as they're walking to school a girl from another school passes by them and one of them turns to look at her. But she's reincarnated in her own OG body not the villainess body so nothing clicks with they hear her say/see her do something she used to do.

Or same thing but this time shes a new girl at their school.

I guess my idea was more of the realist idea that as someone who knows the flow of the novel/ story and is now born into a position of privilege (like that of the villainess), would it not be more logical that you still try to retain your power? Of course, the ML can go screw themselves (most of the original ML from the 1st life are assholes anyways).

As in I do understand the idea of "oh they didn't do me wrong, I won't hurt them", but that is quite stereotypical of these reborn/ isekai FL. I don't mind reading more of those selfish/ petty Fl's like Aria. And it is not the idea of revenge but more of wanting to retain the position that she is already born with.

Can refer to my reply XD

I do understand the story, but I am talking about the isekai genres as a whole. Also I would like to see how one would write from the angle of a self-centered villain. (because most humans do have some form of selfish desires and it makes it more relatable)

I personally don't believe in the defined moral grounds of good and bad, some deeds are definitely worse than others but there will be reasons for why someone did a particular deed.

I didn't mean revenge, can refer to the below reply :)

Ooh that is a cool idea too! I think there was this webtoon about an isekai villain who tried to change her ways, but was stopped by the new ML. Because she HAD to be a villain or she will end up messing up the timeline. But there haven't been many updates.

I think I remember something like that, ahhh, the villaines becomes a nun and makes food in a church, I don't know how it ends tho.

I'm half in, in the idea ngl, but tbh so far out of all the villaines storys (manhwas/mangas) 90% of them have yet to end, I hope that kind of end for "Lady Rose"

But if she continued acting as how the original villainess did she gonna suffer the same fate just like the original FL. You can retain your power without being a bitch and killing/punishing innocent people over petty crimes. Yes the way they act is very stereotypical but also realistic. Think about it yourself if you was the one who had gotten reincarnated as the villainess would you act exactly like how the villainess did even knowing thats by acting evil is how the villainess died? She can still be a strong FL without having to act Selfish or petty.

ahhaha not like act like the original villainess (I don't mean for her to act downright mean and vile) but simply fight for her position as a noble instead of just resigning and saying "nah quiet life in country side for me". Since she now has knowledge she will be able to circumvent the situation.

Well it really depends since people say she is a fake princess and if she really was the fake princess and the red haired girl is the real one then it would be hard for her to fight for her position as the princess since it isn’t rightfully hers. Which is why I believe the FL see no point in fighting for her position since it isn’t her. Of course it gonna be shown later on that she is indeed a princess and that position is rightfully hers. But it’s understandable that she would wanna play it safe instead of triggering something and possibly be banished or Executed.

Yepp it is understandable, and I am not talking about this manga specifically but just in general it would be nice to see ahhaha But I know this FL will def be a badass once she starts fighting back. (also it is entirely plausible the red head is the puppet for the evil people and is a genuinely nice person)

Yeah I agree i would like to see more coldhearted and headstrong FL that’s stands up for themselves and not afraid to speak their mind no matter who it is. They also should have a strong sense of justice and is kindhearted to the people there is only a few webtoon like that tho