The comment section is so lousy. “Shitty story” “I hate it”
*continues to read every chapter*
Can you shut up, stop virtue signaling, and stop reading it if you hate it so much? Like leave. Nobody’s holding a weapon to your head and forcing you to read. What the hell is up with the attention seeking in the comments?
Lmao you're kinda funny talking about getting people on a good track like it's your calling in life XD
You see when we get pressed about what other people do and specially in cases that we judge something in others, and try to change them or interfere in their business, it's a clear sign that a part of ourselves is actually like that or interested in that and we are suppressing that part so hard that it comes out as taking offense and feeling judgment. It's gonna be a long journey but you should start learning about and embracing that shadow part of yourself. Trust me there is nothing more freeing than seeing that shadow, accepting it for what it is and integrating it into your "normal" personality. Don't hide yourself. At least not here... honestly you don't have any reason to this is a purely anonymous zone and what you actually don't like about people like me and other comments isn't our "wrong" taste it's that we've fully accepted it and almost have pride in it and we're just free.
Do the self reflecting and this is coming from a place of love and understanding. you might get triggered with what I said but I hope you really think about it on your own time.
I don't believe readers of this webtoon are romanticizing SA just because they don't demonize ML in every chapter like a mantra of negative phrases. This is downright stupid, especially coming from someone with insider knowledge of how the main characters' relationships will play out. Instead of torturing yourself, stop reading and pick a story that suits your tastes. And let grown-ups, mature people who know that life isn't a fairy tale and have real-life experience with human relationships, appreciate the webtoon and the message conveyed by the author through the nuances of the characters' development.
the funniest part about fells like you is that y’all will scream ‘problematic’ just for attention, then sit there refreshing the story like a crackhead. you don’t care about morals, you just like hearing yourself talk. you’re preaching online while reading bootleg manga off pirate sites. so you’re not righteous, you’re just loud, fake, and embarrassing.
Ha a person who normalizes SA and grape is teaching me what to do? Stop embarrassing urself girl since u don’t even know me irl, I had debates irl and expressed my opinion dozens of times with other people and guess what, I had to talk abt far more serious topics than a dumb characters of a dumb novel, and I’m definitely not hiding myself, in fact I express myself fully in front of the people I know and ALSO people I don’t know, and u’re righr sweetie it triggered me because u have no idea who I am yet u make false assumptions abt me.
Imma give u an advice, instead of fighting kids here, put ur phone down and learn more about the world and far more important and interesting topics.
I don’t understand wether u are agreeing with me or disagreeing but normalizing SA is a really disgusting thing, especially if they’re adults, that’s far worse, and I commented topic before because it just annoys me how a fl with so much potential became a down right stupid, I love “weak” fls with character, I love Ruby from htgmhoms but I hate Layla, no actually I hate the author for ruining her personality, comments exist for people to share their opinions and have debates or whatever, and I also have right to prove u wrong
IM AMAZED how u guys make assumptions of a person u havent even MET irl, yk I have talked abt far more serious topics irl or in social media and not abt some fictional characters but abt religion, politics exc. u guys write whole beautiful paragraphs abt ugly story, and I do not read a story like cebiyb, I actually do read ACTUAL dark romance like “Oligami” and “my beloved oppressor” at least characters there have actual depth unlike a stone like man who keeps his poker face during the whole story, it’s BORING. I suggest u to read actual peaks and to not waste ur time on such dumb stories.
And that's exactly right. Now it's even better because you expressed yourself politely, and that helps to engage in an analytical and civilized discussion about the webtoon. And you'll see that most of us will have more points of agreement than disagreement. It's also important to respect the opinions of others before expecting that for yourself and to avoid personal attacks just because people don't agree or act like you on a particular issue. This specific topic brought up the reflection that most readers here don't even bother to analyze and delve into the new information brought up in each chapter, limiting themselves to saying how despicable Mathias is in each new update. It's tiring.
Nope, If it was actually a good manhwa with a good story and good characters like “Stepmother’s märchen” perhaps, than there are stuff to discuss and analyze ofc Im not trynna say that u shouldn’t analyze and do whatever u want it’s just yall complain abt people hating on this manhwa without analyzing and it’s wrong to me because there’s nothing to analyze to understand how bad this story is. Some people just don’t have time to write a whole paragraph
So... Why waste your time with this webtoon?
I disagree with your opinion: the story is well constructed, and the central theme, although controversial, is being treated in a consistent and intelligent manner. It is natural that some readers may find it difficult to digest, precisely because it addresses a subject with strong potential to reflect our reality.
And isn’t it more embarrassing for u guys to defend a misogynistic story and write whole paragraphs abt “why cry even better if u beg characters have depth”? First of all they DONT, second of all this whole story is misogynistic and anti-feminist, third of all I have talked abt religions and politics in social media with strangers and irl with friends and elders, including teachers who say that they have a good amount of knowledge to teach kids but they’re downright stupid, unlike u people who stay in ur phone reading full bunch of sht and waste ur time on justifying grapist’s actions, open ur eyes and GET A LIFE, at least I’m wasting my time teaching little kids why misogyny is bad and why they shouldn’t read such stuff.
Now you’re just making up stuff. So you’re embarrassing and delusional. I bet you’ve got some real nasty tastes that you hide from everyone and that causes self hatred and then you project on strangers online, it’s people like you who moral police so much that are the real dangers of society.
Also, are you 14 lmao? You can’t be an adult and use this kind of embarrassing self gloating as a flex
Normalizing SA and grape and romanticizing is far more embarrassing, you tell me I hide my nasty tastes though how are you different from ur assumption of me? U read 15+ stories and normalize and romanticize sht and than act like an angel irl. Its you who are hiding your nasty tastes and than sharing ur nasty tastes in social media where no one can guess or know who you are. You are far more embarrassing making silly assumptions of a person u don’t know and mix truth with lies and get away with it. As a feminist reading such stories is just so embarrassing and disgusting for me, such stories bring women down, as long as ml is handsome they will end up together, it’s so freaking wrong and you guys normalize it. And abt the “self gloating” thing, there was a person who said that I kept hiding myself irl which is funny because I don’t know her nor does she, and I just said that I didn’t hide myself in real life nor in social media. And if you’re an adult and instead of getting a job and working for your success u fight kids and writing whole essays abt trash story than you are more embarrassing. If you achieve something u shouldn’t keep it to yourself because it will help you in the future with getting into a better university and getting a well paid job, u wouldn’t know because instead of achieving anything you were stuck in your phone.
Aha so anti-feminist atheist and unemployed in one pack, tell me with ur adult mind why feminism is bad, why equality between genders is bad, and why you making fun of a God other religious people worship? And Im not begging for anything I already said why I had to mention those religion and politics thing if u have paid attention without spouting nonsense what’s meaning u don’t know u would have known, and what kind of miracles would a mere person do for mankind? U’re really not good with cracking jokes. You’re so embarrassing fighting with younger people than u while you should be working and bringing money home, instead of doing that u read misogynistic stories, I wonder if u’re a girl or a boy for saying such stuff abt feminism, if u are a girl than its far worse and u need help and if u wanna know why I can tell u, and also tell u why feminism is good
The way the haters feel compelled to parade their reasons for hating this story is hilarious. Y’all, trust me, the loudest ones are always the nastiest, most entitled folks you’ll meet offline. classic bully behaviour, proven time and again. Thats why they’re whining here, after 70 chapters, about how much they hate this story~ normal people would’ve dropped it if they really hated it. The ones who like to give moral lectures are the real freaky ones irl.
Meanwhile, the story itself? Fantastic. If you’re new here, and love angst, love a male lead that suffers, love a chasing arc, and love a well executed toxic dynamic, this is chef’s kiss. I’m absolutely LOVING it <3333









I URGENTLY need spoilers. Help
nora wins
Can you spoil me the fight please!!? I beg youuuu (/TДT)/
Does he gets badly hurt?
!!SPOILER:
Before the duel even started, the knight/Nora’s opponent wore complete armor and he even has a shield. On the other hand, Nora didn’t wear complete armor (i forgot if even wore one HAHAHHAHA) and did not have a shield—the only thing he held was the sword that Shuli gave him (yk the Christmas gift). Anywaysss sooo, Nora did not got hurt, but his opponent was (if i’m not mistaken) slashed in the face, got his arm cut off, and his neck slashedΣ(  ̄□ ̄||) Mind you Nora was just taunting him the whole time
Wow! Nora our champion(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Thank you for the spoiler!!
(▰˘◡˘▰) my boy