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Heron the Lizard? (⊙…⊙ )

ian is free to have sex with anyone excuse you, i like jo but guys it’s just sex?? and ian is not in a relationship

Out of habit ? And also because it's the only way they usually '' talk '' (they don't talk, they don't assert their feelings) _ and because it's the only way they say '' I still love you '' or '' somehow I will always love you '' _ it could be goodbye sex / break up sex but that's definitely not clear lol.

Also I suspect it can be very troublesome when someone is aromantic and doesn't know it, to me TJ is not the typical '' gentleman / boyfriend / hubby type '' he's not a homemaker. But somehow he loves Ian, and it feels to me that this kind of feelings he has developped towards Ian, are special and precious to TJ ,
because he never felt that with anyone else so he doesn't want to '' stop loving '' Ian. He wants to be '' loved '' and continue '' loving '' him ... Probably because it's his first breakup ? With someone who truly counts as '' soulmate '' somehow.
And Ian seems to be the very first person that really counted for him ?? I mean it's like Ian to him, is his '' everything '' even though TJ is super independant and/or avoidant.
TJ (and maybe Ian too), feels as they are '' one '' or like they are '' a familly '' even though he's confused/avoidant/distant, and toxic at times.
( Emotionnal neglect is strong in this relationship ) they are fuck buddies , that doesn't mean they don't '' love each others '' it's just not the same kind of love. (That's why polyamory exists !! It's possible to love different people and want different things from them!)

Love this! Exactly what I’m thinking. They’re so used to using sex as an outlet and communication that this is all Ian has come to desire, to be with TJ and not be kept waiting etc.

Ian also has never had a family, so his attachment to TJ is reasonable. Love too perhap, just unfortunate circumstances.

You're funny

his father's a bitch yk

He is

His love for her is selfless. It’s all about making HER happy. He’s convinced she’s in love with Emiliano and having seen the good in Emiliano, he believes Emiliano to be a better choice than himself. And that’s without mentioning the fact that he already felt that her goal was to eventually leave him. He doesn’t know that this changed for her, so his conclusion makes sense. To say he’s worse than Oscar in any way, shape or form is frankly appalling. Especially after my most recent re-read of season 2. That man is vile.

Carcel doesn’t think Emiliano is a better choice than him per se. Carcel simply thinks whatever Ines wants, Ines should get. That’s how he always thinks. He didn’t think Oscar was better than him but he saw how she used to smile with Oscar when they were younger and it was enough that it made her happy. That’s why when Emiliano said in this ch he doesn’t deserve Ines’s love, Carcel agreed with Emiliano.

Aahhh yes that’s true

Please reread the first chapters w Oscar cause wtf are u even talking about. Like u cannot be this loud AND stupid

"As veil as oscar is" ??? What kind of story did you read? Can you even fathom what Oscar is? And what he wants? Ines never wanted his attention, from their very first life he made her uncomfortable. He literally s/a her daily when they where married. How in any logical way is he in any way better then Carcel?? Carcel has always choosen Ines in every life. Every single one. His one goal in every life was her safety and happiness. He always had her happiness in mind, thinking shes better off without him. Emiliano is a perfect guy, in another universe he would be perfect with her too. But how can anyone say Oscar is better then Carcel? That disgusting guy didn’t "make passes at her", he made her uncomfortable and assaulted her. He's shit, he didn’t "fight for her" he wants to own her, everything he did and does is disgusting.

Its not selfless its stupid . He has some serious self worth issues , if he had confesed to her once like Eliliano did , she wouldnt be dying and reliving the same misery times and times again . She literally had to choose him herselfin this life causs he's such a fuck up . Put aside the obstruct meanings and youll see it

In their first life (the first one she remembers), She was engaged to the crown prince when she was young. Before Carcel had feelings for her. She was happy with that engagement. So he should’ve confessed his feelings simply because he had them at that point? That would’ve been selfish. He loved her selflessly.

Not only was Oscar abusing her when unprovoked, he would also abuse her when she and Carcel so much as made eye contact in a public setting. And they weren’t even on talking terms then. Is that when he was supposed to confess his feelings?

And in the second timeline when she ran away with the man he believes she loved and he helped her escape, knowing the royal family was chasing them, is that when he was also meant to confess his feelings? He loved her selflessly.

In this timeline, he’s confesses his love to her every time… out loud and in letters… it’s how she came to realize that he’s always loved her, even in their past lives. And she had to choose him for two very distinct reasons:

1- he’s the crown prince’s cousin so no one find fault in her choice and even the queen/empress would be satisfied with that choice because she loves her nephew so much.

2- his status makes him untouchable compared to Emiliano, so he wouldn’t be at risk of easily dying like Emiliano. She underestimated the crown prince’s on that front.

Carcel having had multiple lovers was more of a perk because she didn’t believe he would love her enough to mind divorcing her.

Nfjsjfkdkf lost it KAKAKA Like??? HOW CAN U COMPARE HIM AND SAY HIS WORST THAN THAT SCUM ANIMAL???

I swear, re-reading season 2 made me feel so sick, I was glad for the refresher. Vile beyond measure

Yes Oscar is a scum animal but better be a scum animal than a coward whos still unable to do it all for Ines .I can still remember how scared Oscar looked when Ines was about to kill herself and here's carcel knowing everything he needs to know and still choosing to give her up to another man . Can you understand that im not judging character wise but the whole picture of the story , carcel is as much to blame for how their lives tuned out as much as Ines is for not choosing right from the start

Don't agree with a baseless word you just spit out. Carcel cares for her enough to not want to trap or hold her anywhere against her will, in his mind he is wrong about what she wants, but he is taking actiom to ensure her happiness. What you said was incredibly dumb, he loves her more than anyone and anything, including his own life and will, while others (emiliano) tried but ultimately killed her with their dumbness, and (that scum criminal rapist piece of shit that not even hell is enough painful) sadictically played her pain again and again just for laughs. I seriously am concerned about your moral judgement and how you call selfess love cowardly.

… you sound like you’re into stories with the types of MLs who lock up and r*pe their love interests daily, until said love interest is either broken, suicidal or homicidal. Otherwise I don’t understand what it is you’re appreciating about Oscar.

There are specific stories that cater to people who like the types of MLs like Oscar. There’s no real point talking with people who love that about them, because obsessive, abusive love (like Oscar’s) is better than selfless and devoted love (like Carcel’s) to them.

Oh No never. Funny how you assume at the top of your head

You seem to have comprehensive issues i never said i liked Oscar , im just comparing

But that’s basically the comparison.
Oscar = obsessive and abusive
Carcel = selfless and devoted

You said Oscar is better because Carcel prioritizes her happiness, which to you means he’s a coward. Meanwhile, He actually came up with a legit plan to ensure her safety. By turning Emiliano into a noble, he becomes part of a protected class and by Carcel helping them leave Ortega, they’re no longer under Oscar’s thumb to do as he pleases since they’ll be part of a different kingdom altogether. And he’ll probably do something about Oscar as well, to make sure she’s safe until the end. So I’m confused as to how that makes Oscar better.

I never said he was better And in fact i dont like neither of them . I think Emilino is the standard for any main character out there and i already said this before

You’re wasting your time here on readers who clearly do not understand this story and only see what they want to see. Apparently Emiliano is the standard which is so funny because this entire comment started because Carcel wouldn’t fight for Ines but as next chapter will show, Emiliano intended abandon Ines and leave with the child to a foreign company WITHOUT asking Ines’s permission first. I can’t wait for next chapter to see how these people will PRETEND he wasn’t planning to leave Ines for her own good according to him. But of course he ended up dying because he stupidly ran back to give Ines to pendant in an already dangerous situation after Carcel already saved his life TWICE. What a standard he is for who only see what they want to see.

No, you're so wrong it hurts if I dont reply. First: Oscar doesn't love Ines. He doesn’t even like her. He wasn’t 'scared' when she killed herself. He lost his possession. His toy. His pride, when she would rather die that be with him for the rest if their lives. That wasn't a look of fear. He tarnished her reputation and honor and still continues to do so in this lifetime. He doesn’t care about Ines. The only thing Oscar wants is power, the power OVER Ines. He never 'fought' for her, he never liked her, he never cared about her. He was never scared of losing her. Because he NEVER had her from the very first timeline. Carcel is her true love. Love is selfless. Love is when you put someone first. When you would rather let her go that be miserable with you, while fearing the day she might kill herself again. Carcel is so in love with her, he would rather let her go and be happy instead of driving her to kill herself the same way Oscar did. He isn't a coward, he wants her alive. (Also unlike us, Carcel doesn't know yet that Ines wants to stay married, he assumes she WANTS a divorce, so hes willing to give her what she wants. Its not him 'not fighting for her', its him treating her like a human and accepting her choice, not forcing her to stay like Oscar.)

True, I think I’ll stop here with the back and forth. I also heard he knows she killed their kid before killing herself so they would both rather never run into each other again. Completely makes sense, though.

Also what the frek does 'better be a scum animal than a coward whos still unable to do it all' mean? So Oscar 'does it all' ? He disrespects her, r*pes her, manipulatees her, belittles her, tarnishes her and whatever else. While Carcel keeps his feelings to himself in the 2nd timeline so he doesn't do ANY of those things I listed, while he respects her choices and happiness and feelings?? Unlike Oscar who has ALL of his memories, Carcel just got bits and pieces, hes still remembering, he doesn’t know it ALL. You can't expect him to 'do it all' when he doesn't remember 'it all'.

Im not

I said what i said . And i think carcel us a coward and i stand by that