I’m on Ch. 31 now and this plot hole is bothering me: So in the scene where the rest of the meat for the banquet spoiled, the prince shows up behind her and her though bubble says ‘this voice’ indicating that she can tell the prince’s voice apart from others. And now that she sees him again in the market (first time interacting with his non Prince attire after the meat scene - plus she’s had a lot more time conversing with him now with the fire and all), she’s having a conversation with him and can’t tell that it’s him? I like the story a lot, but just feel that this is a pretty bad plot hole to have. Is it the translation maybe? Was it supposed to be ‘this presence’ or something? Sorry, it’s just easy for me to get caught up in things like these with slow burn stories since I expect them to have more careful planning for the long term. I’d appreciate any insight on this. :)
Got through Ch. 4 (official translations) and dropping. Sunbae literally knows the dude was drunk enough to be passing out. Dude said he didn’t want to do it MULTIPLE times (even gave him a reason when he didn’t need to - no is no) and he was rubbing his dick on his hole AS HE WAS SAYING NO. Dude even threw up during it and he has the gall to say it was good when the dude literally said he wanted his first time to be with someone he liked which implies he wanted it to be good for himself as well - there’s no effing way it was good for him when he’s nauseous (either from the rape or drinking). Why the f*ck is he hugging him at school and once again pressuring him into becoming a sex parter as the dude is saying no??? And why couldn't his noona conclude that he was raped?? My only possible defense for noona is that maybe he didn’t relay his refusal to her as he was telling her what happened. Sunbae has 0 excuse though and should be in jail.
Like I’m fine with chars that sleep around as long as they are open/up front about it AND GET CONSENT (like how is this even something I should need to voice as a requirement). Hate this crap where they act they’re still an ok human being after being a f*cking scumbag.
Also I saw comments explaining how Minwoo becomes toxic later and saying the Omega dude needs to be confront the mishaps and face the problem head on. I’m not surprised it sounds like things get messy later, but just remember that even his noona had to try and get him to not try to avoid the sunbae since literally all his life people were telling him to run away and avoid things, so it makes sense if he’s avoiding confrontation again (not saying he doesn’t need to confront the issue, just reminding folks to remember a part of his personality that was established early in the story along with the reason given for why).
Got through Ch. 6 and dropping. Lame plot (they put her in jail when she could communicate through writing that she killed her dad in self defense against what is highly likely sexual assault? - also they’re really missing out on enough interaction to explain the Stockholm syndrome happening since she isn’t just around the one chick), lackluster spice (not very creative and way too lacking in showing why the chars would cum from what seems like meh technique - like at least show a few panels of the insides getting rubbed or something), and super crappy translation (SO much of what’s said doesn’t sound like it adds up or just wouldn’t lead to chars reacting the way they do).
Also literally all the chars have been pretty and fit so it makes no sense when someone gets called ugly or not the right shape. Which reminds me that they don’t have boob physics down right which makes it look like everyone had a boob job (which is fine for a few, but why make that the case for everyone - including the virgin FL??).
And why did they wait to put that warning until ch 7? The sex scene right before was rape already (coercion is the same thing and Jua was def raped regardless of her cumming and pissing herself). If Lee is nodding as consent then the translation NEEDS to have that written in since she can’t talk. That warning should’ve been in almost all the chapters up to then.
Spice was good, plot got kind of boring, and I was just weirded out by how the investigator was anticipating taking the virginities of school boys. Plus he never questioned doing it with an underaged kid the whole time.. I ended up skipping parts of boring dialogue for the spice near the end but that could just be cuz I’m not into the investigating type of plot.
Which is a shame cuz it had good art and I wanted more spicey time. Plus we don’t get to know if they decided to stay or leave. Didn’t get to know the chars enough to know if they’d want to build a family or not. Raising kids in that world must be stressful & has a high potential for arranged partnerships if they need to have a partner by the time they’re adults. Like I’m not sure if the world building would’ve survived just HOW parents would ‘help’ make sure their kids get a partner and avoid pedophilia stuff.
I’m a little confused at why she didn’t bite his dick off. Like she could have chewed on it too so he couldn’t do anything to retaliate in the mean time. It’s just that the author wrote her as the type of character that would do that so I was genuinely surprised that she didn’t (she was pretty vehemently against being used for seduction and had a lot of rage for the cause).
Also to hell with Frank. They never should’ve let him do missions if he couldn’t handle torture or even blood (the whole reason his cover got blown). Dude also had the gall to get pissy when she’s getting raped because of him.
Also to hell with blondie ass wipe not counting the first time as rape and bringing up the definition of prostitution. Dude needs to look at the definition of rape. Coercion of any kind counts as doing something against your will which means it’s all rape. Like the stupidity of it just…
I’m surprised at how satisfied I am at how this went down. 4 stars instead of 5 because no one died in the process of her getting revenge and that just felt a bit like the author might’ve been afraid of killing off characters (revenge is not supposed to be this neat of an affair to execute), but fine that just made this count as a more fluffy type of story for me.
I do wish her aunt got tried for her mother’s death and their mistreatment instead of just getting attached to her trash hubby’s crimes (its obvious she didn’t know about them - even if she still would’ve reaped the benefits she looked like she had a line she wouldn’t cross which is why she was terrified when her actions led to Julia’s death). Still got death tho which is the revenge Robilia wanted.
Folks keep mentioning if the ogFL (Ina?- I’ll use Ina for her) was evil and I just saw her as a spoilt brat who acted no more evil than what her parents told her to do - like they could tell she didn’t feel comfortable treating Robelia as a slave even which is why they said to treat her like a doll. Like she seemed as neutral as any kid might’ve been if it weren’t for her parents’ bad influence and example (I’m surprised she wasn’t worse considering how she knows her mom treated Julia and Robelia). The main thing that made me totes chill with her and not consider her evil was that as soon as her dad smacked her, she IMMEDIATLY called herself a doll that her parents controlled and she didn’t kick up any fuss for things that she didn’t think was to try and save her family (cuz she didn’t know her dad was a mass murderer). Like she didn’t even bring up that she ‘treated Robelia as a sister’ in public like she had before that event. I also attribute that pretentious remark she used to make as influence from her mother because all her life she saw her mom treat them like slaves and still boast about how kind she and her husband were to look after the ‘illegitimate’ niece, so what else was she supposed to learn? Additionally, I’d like to point out that her immediate thought to burn documents first came as a question of if she should as well as an impulse to save her family that she JUST realized stole everything from the girl she was raised to interpret as the person who was stealing from her ever since she left the house. Like the fact that she even though it in the form of a question if she should rather than just grabbing them and chucking them into the fire is a huge statement to how she isn’t inherently evil, because she really should’ve been after being the raised the way she was. Also yes, I get that she was able to tell they were copies, but that wasn’t the first thing she realized. She noticed that after thinking they were legit and was trying to figure out what to do. This pause and evaluation of her situation is actually why I also agree with the prince’s opinion that she would’ve been great as an empress. I was actually worried when I thought she’d go stupid for love but was uber relived when I saw her face during the hug. Like the girl has brains and is probably neutral by nature which tends to be what is sought after in royalty. Being able to think things through rationally while prioritizing one’s nation (her family in Ina’s case which is why she was even thinking of business ideas after the first mine fiasco) is the job or royalty. I also get why she would reject the prince’s proposal tho. Even if it was something she wanted, I don’t think she would’ve been able to have someone with her now status and familial history becoming a potential weakness for the empire due to becoming its empress. I just like that she shows significant character growth and development.
As for our main couple Robelia and Jake (crap I think that was his name?), I actually REALLY liked their dynamic. Like he oozes respect for her and he doesn’t always act like a pushover for her or anything. It’s just sweet to see how they develop their relationship together and slightly change in ways that are better for their happiness over time.
Now for our prince (as minimally his appearance was), I get weird tyrant-ish vibes from him. Like his mom always looked like the one that was more in control of the situation and even just her composure (which is what is expected of royalty) and even the way he thought of Ina was just really off putting to me. I can’t tell for sure because we didn’t see him in action with policies, but it bothered me that he was mentally a ok and not guilty feeling about using Ina’s love for him (as far as he knew) to get the bond and then ditch her to die (the smirk he had as they hugged is my reason for believing he had no remorse over it - whereas Ina just had a somber face because she knew it was a lie and he was fine with hurting her and using her like a tool the same way her parents had been using her as one - that might also be why she rejected his proposal now that I think of it; can’t trust the guy). Just him thinking that she was the perfect woman before the misdeeds of her folks came about and then wanting to use her as a tool and then having the audacity to propose to her after all that because he realized she was smart is WAY too icky to me to think of him as a sensible and respectable guy. He’s just thinking of the things he wants and not thinking forward enough to see what she could see (her becoming empress could’ve hurt the empire’s image to other countries with her family being hung and guilty of multiple murders) or even being able to be honest with someone he supposedly loved (I don’t really think he loved her but if he did then he should’ve been more honest with her and wouldn’t have tried to use her).
Also just realizing the prince might’ve been the emperor already?? I don’t remember how he was announced but if that’s the case then just replace prince with emperor (I don’t remember seeing his dad at all but he also barely showed up so…)
TLDR: Cute story, healthy main couple, don’t think Ina should’ve gotten so much flak from the comments, suspicious of the prince/emperor of being a potential future tyrant/overly emotional ruler.
I like the major twist here where it’s 2 people having been transmigrated rather than just 1. It’s pretty refreshing. I do wish that Asha would just go after Lisa tho since she’s the one that’s been making this whole mess. It’s not an author having power over the plot thing in this case. I’m also kind of confused at why she isn’t questioning if Luke is the one that set the village ablaze when Lisa stole the pendant tho. That’s where my head initially went since she knows he doesn’t like others touching him and she seemed concerned that he’d explode when her hubby touched him the first time. Plus he obv seems like some type of phoenix like divine beastie (fire galore). But yeah, Lisa needs to get sorted out as well as the prince and the mage dude that brought Lisa to the tower to begin with (he’s got suspicious written all over his cane).
So I’m getting the impression that him getting divine punishment is because he may have broken the bond with his god (yay great!- if not, then hopefully he can work on this with Angie’s help and that can count as her being the tool that can kill that god) but the dude is unfortunately not approaching Angie properly (yes I know he has no idea how to do that in the first place). Like she obviously has severe PTSD that has been getting worse since she was suppressing it and forced herself into Stockholm syndrome-ing herself for him just to survive so I get her panic attacks (which were manifesting in her nightmares and day terrors where she was strangling herself). But now the dude needs to kind of not try to get all touchy-touchy with her when she’s scared since that’s triggering her fight/flight response hardcore. Dude is gonna need to start working on emotional intelligence asap (since the god was blocking him from gaining any his entire life).
And everyone is saying that they need to just talk this out. I agree that they need to have some serious couples therapy time, but I also ask that folks understand that his approach as she’s freaking out actively isn’t really leaving any opportunity for that to happen and it’s not really either of their fault at this point (since one was cursed and the other has severe trauma because of his curse).
I just feel bad for Eden since it looks like he got screwed royally and I don’t see a way for them to convince Providence to send him back without that god being a d*ck about payment again (even his body is a complete wreck now T-T). Like the dude was even gonna try to make Angie’s life in their original world better so she wouldn’t be miserable.
Also the original saintess was dumb for making a deal with Providence, but I understand that she definitely wasn’t of sound mind by the time she realized how Mercy didn’t give a crap about her and she was forced to be a sacrifice along with other innocents.
Overall, very pleased so far - ch 63 or so at this point
lol I had to check back to ch 2 to name check that Sangwoo was the same person in the other stories XD His entire hue, hairstyle, and the grittiness of the art from the first story is so different from the other stories. Still enjoyed the compilation as a whole tho.
No idea how long I let this marinate for but the art by ch 90 is VASTLY different from the beginning chapters.. like her head shrunk and looks weird and eyes for everyone don’t fit their faces well… also looks like there’s enough plot that’s happened that the dude that killed her she somehow is now in love with???
The only plot hole sequence/character writing thing I had issue with was why Judith didn’t think of the possibility of Luca having turned back time, once she learned about the magical goblet that granted a wish once to each head of Winterwald (according to what she was initially told). She had been portrayed as pretty quick on the uptake and smart as well as having her memories from her past life which would have stories of that trope (since she automatically recognized what had happened to herself as a transmigration trope), so I don’t see why she wouldn’t have thought of it way back then (it was pretty obvious that that was a strong contender of explanations for Luca’s change in demeanor since the train ride at least). Not that it would’ve made a big difference in the story unfolding, but they would’ve been closer earlier and it just sticks out like a huge brain fart moment to me since the rest of the story was really good.
Ok so I tried. Like I REALLY tried but the character writing is sh*t. Art is very nice so I kept reading after they did it but that scene also put the nails in the coffin and it just didn’t get better. Below are my issues with the chars.
FL - Was she really stupid in her original world? She comes off as brainless and as others have mentioned, she just never wanted to be a singer again? Also why does she think the novel she read is in play when no events occur that are in alignment with the book? Like yes she’s surrounded by the same characters and is in that marriage, but she hasn’t gone through any event and been like ‘oh this is exactly what happened in the book’. There’s no reason for her to think what she’s doing isn’t making a change. Additionally, there’s the topic many have brought up where she’s not attempting to understand the original’s backstory. I just don’t see how this can pass for ok writing even when her brother that dotes on her comes around and she just has no incentive to figure anything out about her past in case he brings up stories? Like does she even know that her char was adopted into the main family?? Even after meting again with Rune, she still doesn’t try to get info on her background? And no one questions how you straight up told a guy who you clearly have history with ‘who are you?’?? Like this is a huge char issue and also mega bad writing that this is happening. Like that doesn’t work unless you do an amnesia explanation for stuff (which she didn’t do).
ML - The dude fell in love with her looks… No improvements from there. No substance given to his char. He has not once given any compliments that aren’t about appearance and steamrolled her with guilt to get a boning session. Oh and I find it disgusting that they tried to make the readers feel bad for him for needing to hold back in the cottage with him digging his nails into his arm deep enough to draw blood. Holding back from raping someone isn’t some noble and respectable thing - it’s EXPECTED behavior and a prerequisite for existing anywhere near society. He’s just trash with a hot bod and pretty face.
FL & ML - I was fine before they did the deed since I thought her character was still developing but why ON EARTH would she agree to do it when all he did after she said no was to bombard her with how he ‘needs’ her, then bring up the rumors about him being impotent while guilting her saying she knows he isn’t (how the hell would she know that anyway?), and keeps pushing with how much he wants her and again guilts her (this time asking her if she thinks he’s ugly and that’s why she won’t sleep with him), and really hits a home run asking her not to make him useless by not sleeping with him (even if this ment loving him in his head this is still SO WRONG). Also note that she barely got any words in while he just went on this tantrum to get her to sleep with him while having the audacity to sprinkle in twice that he didn’t want to do it if she didn’t. Dude literally steamrolled her into it. My issue with the FL on this is that her character writing got sabotaged with this since there is nothing in her character development to this point that supports why she would go along with it at this particular point in time. My issue with the ML here is that he’s a whining piece of trash for doing this we he supposedly ‘loves’ her and will ‘respect’ her choice.
Oddly enough, at this point in the story the only love interest that has been written consistently is the trash brother of the emperor. At least he has his story straight and is doing things that make sense for the character. Maybe Rune (tutor dude) will end up being true to the char that’s been written for himself too, but I’m too tired of the bad writing to continue from this point.
Wait… but if the fox universe is the only one in which they have kids (what’s his name said it was the only universe where they have kids when Yoo-I forget how to spell his name asked if they had kids in the other universes) then what about the alternate universe one where he got pregnant after 8 yrs of them being together?? Is he gonna miscarry in that one??? He wanted 2 or 3 kids tho T-T
Like I just don’t like that this is feeling like the trope of the ml doesn’t do relationships and is bored but oh! This new interesting toy. And oh! It’s seeing other guys and isn’t trying to be in a relationship?? Now I want cuz I get jealous (even tho Danwoo totes has the feels for him and just doesn’t want to get abandoned). Just really makes it feel like the ml doesn’t actually care about anything that isn’t superficial about Danwoo. Finding someone’s obliviousness or innocence amusing doesn’t count as actually valuing any part of who they are as a person to me. But I also don’t see him ending up with the celebrity either since he seems to want to own him (like he said he doesn’t like), so Danwoo seems to be the only person he can get paired with unfortunately. T-T
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Like Woori is actually trying to get to know Danwoo as a person and hang out in a wholesome way whereas the one time we see the hair dude hanging out with Danwoo, it’s about dressing him up and ejaculating and there isn’t any form of actually having a wholesome hang out (not sure why Danwoo thinks they’ve been doing the same things people do when they’re dating - only part of that they do is the sexual stuff since getting his haircut turns into that and it’s not like they talk about themselves and their values as it’s happening or anything).
If someone is lying then she should talk to them both at the same time. Why believe what that chick is saying when you’ve known the dude for years and her for like 10 mins total? Or at least tell him that she said they’re dating so he can resolve it if it’s untrue. Better yet, have him call her out while you’re with him have them hash that out where you can hear.
Not that I’m defending Gareth, but I hate that Jack and his friends shit on him as bad as they do without knowing the truth. Like I personally also have issue with how Violet just didn’t handle any of that but I get her personality and understand that she had no responsibility to - just feels like she really didn’t even care about Jack as a friend even, since it doesn’t sound like she did anything about that (aside for break up with him since I guess it was too troublesome for her and bored her or something).
Also pissed that Sammy didn’t step up and say that she’s the one that told Leslie and not Jack - furthering the misunderstanding Gareth had. The dude already thought that the guy he was trying to be genuine friends with (even though he was doing it the wrong way - maybe Jack couldn’t tell that he was trying? Giving benefit of the doubt even tho I don’t believe that Jack couldn’t tell) had to have known he was dating Violet (since everyone talked about his attitude after they started dating) and must’ve hit on her causing him to be dumped and for her to be official with him 2 weeks after. Yes I get that that’s ok and he also knew her personality; I’m just saying that the miscommunication between these folks was already bad and this doesn’t help me think of that friend group better.
I wish Leslie got to hear the full story since I’m sure she would’ve had a clearer and more unbiased decision about her feelings tho. I feel like she would’ve asked for his side if he hadn’t blown up on her since he got triggered/got ptsd flashbacks of everyone on campus saying he did something that he didn’t (basically getting bullied). Like she had more in common with Gareth and it was sweet seeing his not obsessive love form for her. I’m just genuinely curious who she would have developed feelings for with knowing the full truth as well as seeing Jack’s bad side of not clarifying what actually happened and causing Gareth to take a year off from bullying that originated from him and his friends shit talking him worse than they should have. Like they just took the words of that no name dude that name dropped Gareth and never bothered to get the truth after that. Like I get that it was his sister and people can blow up worse with closer connections, but if they drive somebody to disappear for a year, they have a responsibility to make sure they have their facts straight. I do like that Jack didn’t say anything to Leslie tho because he could see that their affections were genuine - his approach on that was the most appropriate. Sammy just messed that up.
Also it kind of sucks that Leslie didn’t really get to explore more than just the BDSM stuff since she was following Jack’s preferences. Would’ve been nice to see more on her relationship later and see how that plays out.
TLDR: Gareth got crapped on more than he deserves and Jack and his friends are responsible for him getting bullied off of campus (didn’t bother getting facts from him rather than the no name dude that stalked his sister). I don’t see how Violet could be counted as their friend since she did nothing to help Jack in that situation (she could’ve just sorted out facts with Gareth). I wish Leslie could get the whole story but don’t blame her since Gareth blowing up from his ptsd made her not want to continue that convo and she doesn’t have to. Only really liked Leslie and I feel bad for Gareth but his quick fuse and the way his personality got all ‘trying too hard to be cool’ from dating Violet is a turn off. Wish we got to see more of Leslie spicy time.
Wait so why did Poh have sex with her in the beginning (doesn’t really seem like that happened before the elixir)? More importantly, why haven’t any more scenes of him bathing her or anything come up again?? The previous chick’s personality don’t really come off as the type to have sex with him in the first place, but if it’s happened once I don’t get why he wouldn’t ask for it again like he did the first time (his personality is the type to do that - unless the change in her character is that big of a turn off for him??)?? That plot point is seeming like it was either a mistake or wasn’t thought out and now the author is just ignoring it happened. It just feels like they’re really pushing Ian now when they kicked off with the wrong dude or something (maybe they thought of doing a reverse harem initially?).
Didn’t really like either couple, but the second one had better communication than the first even though it was Woojin making that happen really (kinda what needs to happen when someone goes after someone that is openly emotionally closed off and not wanting commitment).
First couple could have been great but the traumas weren’t really dealt with/explained well so it made those seem as quick little side things about them/made them not seem like big deals (even though they clearly were - shouldn’t have been so quick to resolve). Also, the facial expressions really needed some work (especially the seme during sex scenes - second couple did really well in this realm).
Second couple I would argue wasn’t toxic since Shin was up front about his take on everything from the beginning (even though he was forceful in the coercive way in the beginning - Woojin is an adult and still could’ve run away or shoved him off). If Woojin wants to be uber dedicated to Shin until he fully accepts his love (which seems to be the method that works), then that’s ok and I’m glad that Shin has been better since he isn’t pushing him away anymore from the 3 months later chapter.
Woojin IS a terrible friend tho since he just dropped his buddy and failed hardcore to communicate with him about his concerns for his emotional safety (which I only put importance on in friendships like theirs where it seemed like they were close enough to be on that level of acceptable friend caring - regardless of if his friend is in love with him as I suspected). And if they weren’t on that level of friendship where they could be worried about one another’s’ emotional safety, then Woojin should have communicated that so they were on the same page (saying ‘this doesn’t concern you’ isn’t communication - actually sit down with coffee or something and use words to say that you’re uncomfortable with that level of concern and think you need to set boundaries within your relationship - it’s a sucky convo but if you need it then just do it).
I feel like with the knowledge that her bio and adopted fams love her (without the original plot of her bio ones being worn out from an almost 20 year misguided search and never sensing the signal of her aliveness - that consort did a great job plotting that for her purposes) the best way to have everyone be happy would be for the emperor and archduke to marry eachother after getting the empress kicked out. They can un brainwash Azella together (hopefully - she’s still a kid) and still have the family.