This is undoubtedly one of the best stories in terms of character development. From how they started, to the middle, and to the end of their entire relationship. I've never seen such a well-crafted progression. Kudos to the author. I want more of this...waiting for the side ones^-^
No offense but this is literally the opposite of a well crafted progression. The ml and the mc didn't even have a bond but suddenly the ml went insane when mc almost died. Most anticlimactic obsession ever. It just appeared one day and never went away. No reason, no explanation. Just bad writing lol
Very much agreed! Where first Nakwon didn’t even see Mokwha as human, and just a gangster exconvict filled with prejudice, their relationship evolved both persons, Nakwon opening up Mokwha’s world to more experiences and people, and a silent affirmation that he would help mokwha go anywhere and be anything, and Mokwha’s kindness and own loneliness and personal lack of self worth dragging out empathy and love from an asshole like nakwon. Those developments speak volumes!
Ian is that kind of person who can date many different types of people but still goes back to his ex if his ex wants him back. He's like TJ just said the word and i am all yours
well i think it's fair to say BOTH Ian and TJ are "that kind of person". It's a trauma bonding situation. I find it kind of unfair when TJ stans put all the blame on Ian. even if u were on Jo's side that makes sense cause BL readers often tend to hate more on the bottom than the tops. Just like in straight stories where readers hate the female lead over the male even if the male lead is more problematic. This even happens irl. The stigma needs to stop fr
I like Jo enough to don't want him and Ian to be final game. I know TJ is like that, but i dont know if you forgot but a few chapters before He sold the house where they were going to live together in the future he imagined because he already saw that he wouldn't be chosen, Ian was going to stay with Jo. I dont hate anyone in this story. But the author is making Ian the kind of character that i don't like. Just my opinion. Don't get so hurt with fictional characters, ok? ^-^
In my opinion Ian is not that type of person. I don't think his feelings for TJ are as strong as before. A few chapters back he was thinking about Jo and how he is not deserving of someone like Jo.He think TJ is what he deserves so might as well take a chance to test the water if they can both start at the beginning again whether they it'll be romantic or platonic later on. And when Jo is back in the picture. Things will be even more different. Ian just need to realize that even if he thinks he doesn't deserve Jo that Jo love him either way. Again I can see why people say Jo deserve better but if I was a Jo Stan. I rather him win the man than losing. And let stop making it sound like Ian is the only one to blame.
Okay first of all i'm not "getting hurt with fictional characters" this is a public comment section so obviously there is gonna be conversation and argument dawg. And no i didn't forget that thing about TJ and the house but i think your lacking understanding about their dynamic here. Part of Ian's cons about TJ is that he does all these grand gestures of love and keeps coming back to him but he never communicates it. TJ glazers hating on Ian for "making" TJ sell that house when Ian didn't even know about it in the first place is wild. There is no point if you don't communicate to the person u love what u do for them. All Ian sees is a guy that choses the gang over him and that's all TJ lets him see besides the begging so i don't blame Ian at all. TJ needs to leave him alone fr
YES THANK YOU! You described that so perfectly! The way this person claims not to hate any of the characters but they only chose to flame Ian in their og response says ALOT
"This person here" is not blaming Ian. You say you understand the story so well, but you don't know how to interpret my comment. My opinion is valid until this chapter, it might change in the next chapter, and whether you think it's wrong or not is entirely your problem. Everyone interprets any kind of work in their own way because that's how it works, it's open to anyone's interpretation. I'm just expressing my opinion that I'm not happy with the way the story is going, and you don't have to be upset about that. You really need to understand the difference between hate and opinion.
I mean im really not upset with ur comment lol not THAT serious. like u said im just expressing my opinion and in a public comment section people tend to have conflicting opinions and the people who reply to ur comments might not always agree with but that doesn't mean im wrong lmao. And yes "this person here" is blaming Ian cause u litterally called out IAN and not TJ too for what happened this chapter. Even if you just said what u did in this comment and say you didn't like that story I wouldn't say your putting it all on Ian but u called his name out. Back to the thing I said about BL readers always blaming the bottom just like in striaght stories and real life where people always blame the woman
Final response. As i said my comment does not blame Ian just because i didnt mention TJ or any other character. And don't keep bringing up the issue of blaming the character just cause hes a bottom, trying to put me in a box just because I mentioned a character who's the bottom of the story. I'm always talking about the shitty Top in other stories and even stop reading out of anger, I just don't comment as much. In this story, I express myself more because I really liked the characters in the beginning, and now I'm hating the direction the story is going, and just because I mentioned Ian's behavior and compared it to reality doesn't mean I'm blaming him. Whether he's Uke or Seme, my comment would be the same because all the other characters continue in the same line they started, and he seems like the only lost and confused one who frustrates us all the time. Just look at the likes and other OPINIONS (not hate) comments, because I also don't agree with calling him a bitch. Now, putting me in the box you're insinuating because of one comment is sad and entitled, to say the least. Grow up.
So, guys, if you're in a relationship where you think your partner has an obligation to change you, to make you a better person, that might happen, but it's no one else's obligation. You have to become a better person on your own and not wait for anyone else to save you. That said...THERAPY
So, guys, if you're in a relationship where you think your partner has an obligation to change you, to make you a better person, that might happen, but it's no one else's obligation. You have to become a better person on your own and not wait for anyone else to save you.
All that aside...You couldn't possible think that Ian is better off with Jo, cause even for me, who's a TJ fan, Jo is too good for whatever messed up Ian has going on. Like for me Jo character is in the wrong story.
I think he has the heart to help regardless, that’s why he’s fitting for this story. Not the wrong story. It’s just a complicated situation, but I feel that Ian will come around. All that moments with Jo isn’t for nothing.
It’s very much possible for Ian to be with Jo because Jo is currently the only one that can give him the “normalcy” he craves, a life without gang and violence.
But if TJ can do for him, then they’ll be endgame.
We will see how it goes.
Right now, I just don’t think Ian is at fault. Nobody should be slut shaming him, he hasn’t been official.
But Jo is actually perfect for this type of story. It's a noir story and noir is mostly known for its moral ambiguity and nothing shows more moral ambiguity than Jo who is entering a lifestyle that's starts to questionable his morality for who he want to protect.
He's just as important like the other two and his part is unpredictable because many of us and even the other characters underestimate him.
Preach
That's precisely Jo's role in the story, the outsider who gets in the middle and shows a different perspective
I don’t understand how he doesn’t fit. I think the whole role of him, as you said too, is him being an outsider with a different mindset and perspective. He could be the change, basically.
Exactly, the story wouldn't ever move on, evolve, or have any nuance if he wasn't here
True. And if TJIAN could communicate, then there would be no plot. Literally everything involves these three main characters, nobody is an outsider for real.
I understand your point of view, but so far the author hasn't given any indication that he's going to save Ian. It seems like he's the one who's going to sink because of Ian, meaning Jo will stop being that cool character from the beginning and maybe enter this dark world of gangs. At least that's my perception.
For me, the perfect ending would be for everyone to move on with their own lives because I don't know, I don't even like IanxTJ sometimes.
This story is making me lose interest in it with each chapter, which is sad because I really liked it in the beginning, now I don't care about knowing the ending anymore.
Fair point and valid perspective. It’s just that everyone has their roles, it’s not like Ian can save himself, I don’t expect the male leads to at any point RIGHT NOW.
It seems to be a slow burn, just a bit. I think readers are just annoyed with the back and forth, but some should not shame Ian for doing what he did with TJ in latest chapter.
I don’t think Jo will enter the gang world as a “job”, but he is already involved due to his stupid cousin and Jam.
I don’t give too many fucks about the male leads, one had a choice to live a peaceful life but gave that up for gang and the other guy had the option to just keep himself in his own normal world, the only one I’m seriously worried for is Ian. He is my center of attention, I won’t even lie.
I agree that people shouldn't call Ian a sl*t. Its just shows how they don't have enough brain cells to form a opinion.
And in my case, TJ is my center of attention hehe
Valid too, in fiction I’d take TJ any day. Need a man like him obsessed with me, and he’d come home to me (because I’m a lazy bum so I’d be good at waiting for him LOOL). In real life, Jo would be it.
And if someone else's opinion impacts you so much that you feel the need to block them...be my guest So you love TJ? Great, you hateTJ? Great. You're entitled to have your own opinion. And be free to express it, but too much unnecessary hate is just some clowns wanting attention. Lots of love for all of u
Yeah people who block you because they can’t take someone elese’s opinion are beyond annoying. And it’s always after they say some shxt too and you end up being blocked from replying. Feels like cowardice
You get it.
I read the novel and is only going to get worse and not even stockholm syndrome can justify this sick plot and this sick author who should be in jail, because they can't be normal.
So you're saying that out of nowhere this motherf* cares about him. Go eat some shit, not even 365 days has this level of bullshit. This autor is needs to be admitted in a Psychiatric hospital.
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the novel kinda implied jerome liked him since they first met. also jerome saying all those things in 25 are reflective of his own trauma, when (spoilers) he was basically sold to hugh's family and later forced to rape his nanny, who is the only one that cares about him. he is essentially telling him to not submit to the violence, tho twisted as his words are.
Whatever his backstory is, for me, still dont justify they being together. Im dropping here
ur opinion is valid. i still dont completely support them getting together, altho i understand the novel's reasoning.
Omg so Hugh and his family is just manipulative and crazy
bro so they’re so called love story is meant to be some sort of trauma bond or something? Bloody hell
yes, they're irredeemably evil. they're the root cause of most of the characters' suffering and tragedy.
it's not really depicted as a love story (although they do love each other at the end), but yes they are trauma bonded. the novel repeated use the phrase "solidarity of hatred" to describe their bond, and "parasitic" for his relationship with the remaining boys (initially at least). it's complicated. spoilers:
at some point, bc mc couldnt move on from his experience with the boys, and the two remaining couldnt either, he tried to embrace them and love them. it was the only way he could survive in the world with them in it, bc when he tried to kill one of them (successfully), he immediately despaired and revived him and realized he couldnt live without them. but he also knew that their existence and his unrelenting hatred and trauma will drive him to kill himself eventually, so he chose to bury his hatred to survive (although this was temporary and didnt work). that's kinda the gist and doesnt take into account his relationship with Jerome
Oh boy is worse that I imagine. Good im dropping this story now. Thx your spoiler save my peace of mind of this twisted world view author
WTF ASSHATSSSSS I HOPE THEY ROT IN HELL
yes, the story gets so so much worse. ngl it has one of the best (harrowing) depictions of stockholm syndrome, and the writing is good, but it feels like misery porn most of the time.
"When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor". - Paulo Coelho
*Paulo Freire