
As someone who has read quite a few of these "superpower, dungeon, tower" type manhwas, this was severely underwhelming and kinda boring. The couple also does nothing for me, the mc feels so one-dimensional and doesn't have any personality except being scared, or blushing with his mouth open. They clearly tried to make the ml like sociopathic or whatever but I was just cringing the entire time. I finally dragged myself to finish it after the 4th time of coming back, cause people recommended it. Well. At least I've gotten it out of the way

Truly, every time they entered a dungeon, I would always physically prepare myself for absolute peak, but it was always really disappointing. They didn't explore different powers, levels, and the sort properly, I thought it was like that to give way for the romance but given the romance was also so underdeveloped, I truly dont understand. It was just amateurish, but I guess it would be "soo good" for people who are either not familiar with the trope or just dont read a lot of very fleshed out romance books.

The reason the romance didn't work for me is because it had absolutely no progression up until MCs suicide attempt.
Every time seme started having an ounce of character development, he instantly backpedaled again. He showed zero signs of falling for MC throughout the entire story.
He only caught feelings in the very last five minutes, I can totally see the novel doing a way better job at showing the reader the seme falling for MC, but the manhwa did such a bad job there imo, and it kinda ruined the whole story for me because I couldn't take their romance seriously at all
And other aspects of the story haven't really been explored enough to distract you from the lack of romantic development, either
It was OK, but the ending really was what made me go "well that was underwhelming" in the end

Funny how everyone seems to like Dan, saying he's a sweety and his life is so sad yet still wants him to end up with the fucker that is responsible for part of his trauma. There is no form of redeeming that Jk could go through that will ever make him worth Dan's affection but I'm curious as to how this author will "try" to accomplish that.

Idk who Seungho is but Taeju actually went through a self-deprecating period where he even developed a trauma relating to euihyun and wasn't even able to leave him alone without going into a panic. In my opinion, the redemption was handled pretty well in that story, plus, euihyun played a big part as he stood his ground against taeju and wasn't in love with him nor accept him until AFTER he redeemed himself. Dan on the other hand cries about everything and even fell in love with the man who abused him and never showed him a shroud of kindness. He wont need much to grovel at Jks feet, that's what the author is showing through his character right now.

Yeah at least he got a character development but I wouldn't say he is a massive green flag though, but then again I didn't follow up the manhwa so I can't say for sure, it's just weird on how fast people switched up after what the Euihyun went through. But I do love the fact Euihyun stood on his ground and never folded easily compared to Dan though! I'm considering reading back after your statement here as well (Seungho is from Painter Of The Night, i think?? i forgot as well sorry if I'm wrong on this part) But, I think they're referring to the fact that these two characters had rxped the mcs?

Seungho is from painter of the night and I know the plot of low tide in Twilight and I know how Taeju worked for his redemption (infact I like it). My point was Taeju was 5x more horrible towards the MC and he was still able to redeem himself so jjk is way easier to redeem as a character. Regarding the execution why are you already assuming that Mingwa won't be able to provide justice lol? It's not even been 5 chapters yet. We don't even know how the plot will take the course and it seems like you have already decided that no matter what the redemption gonna be shit because in that case nothing will satisfy you no matter how Mingwa writes.

Yk he's just a jackass and an asshole but to me he's one of the easiest redeemable TOPS correct me if I'm wrong, he never raped MCs but asshole-ish just say leave or take the money kind of thing right? He's like a massive Tsundere with extremely violent tendencies and clearly doesn't acknowledge nor understand emotional queues. Though, I hope he had a wretching backstory like Jiwon at least (referring to the author's old work). He really comes off bad because of his personality (and how he treats other ppl) so we wait for the redeemed character of jjk and see how the comment section differs, I hope it won't disappoint me as well. I'm guessing it'll be him trying to understand Kim Dan a bit more better and becoming a better person (similar to Jiwon). I don't have high hopes though.

Well what he did I would still call it as dubious with the way he behaved with him in the earlier chapters. I have a different opinion on this it would be really interesting if he doesn't have any sad backstory lol. Him later on trying to amend for his actions by trying to become a better person would give more weightage to me. Also here Taeju falls in the same category and that's why I loved his redemption so much more! Mingwa has already said Jaekyung will grovel like he should and I'm just gonna wait and see how it turns out.

While you have a good point calling out my assumption, I cant help but assume cause I've read Bj Alex. People want to act like "that" was redemption when all Alex had to do was say "sowwy, I wuv you ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶" and the bottom immediately accepted him. I can't say from that terrible writing that I have the most hope about how this will go. All I'll say is, there is nothing satisfying about a submissive guy accepting a half-ass apology. If the writer can give Dan some development (and hopefully some balls) before tackling Jk then I will eat my words. Don't get me wrong, I WANT this to be good, I'm not just a hater.

I personally find Danny best uke ever <3 no doubt bout that, but I don't care much about him... I want him to end up with seme because jjk likes him, if he liked potato I would ship jjk x potato ^^ I'm more analysising semes attitudes in yaoi than uke, because ukes already seen and reviewed, semes are more unpredictable

Dw I get your point but I will say one thing I know peeps judge Mingwa on the basis of what she did in BJ Alex but gosh she probably came up with that story and drafted
it like 10 years ago and it was her first BL ever. She as a writer and an illustrator must have definitely went through a lot of changes. I feel like it's unfair compare her ongoing current work with her very first one.
Bruh I thought i just hated smut cause no matter how many BLs I've read (like 300) ive always mostly just skipped sex stuff in the past cause it has never really done anything for me.... but this is so.... lord, am I normal?
I can read smut even tho it does nothing for me, but maybe you found a kink or you needed it to be "fun/interesting" or conducive to the story somehow?
Actually, the opposite of the last part. I usually HATE when smut is like "part" of the storyline. Like omegaverse, where you have to go into heat, get extremely submissive, have sex, and now you're in a relationship. In fact, I hate when sex is what starts the relationship, hate when they do it every day, hate when they do it after an argument. I actually dropped a lot of bl in the past because of smut. That's why this is so surprising to me.
That's so awful. You got it tuff, actually. I hate omegaverse too tho, like why the hell is sex the actual plot. I literally say omegaverse worlds are based on smutty eugenics, it makes me so mad lol
God! Someone gets it! I had a phase where I really wanted to get into it, so I tried multiple, but I just got so irritated. Storylines where the main objective is just based around smut really isn't my cup of tea. Now, I like tension; I like when feelings are made clear. I just feel like there are many better ways to express it than throwing in 3 straight chapters of rawdogging in the first like 15 chapters, do these people even know each others names?
you know what's more triggering than that? When they start the first page of the first FREAKING chapter in bed. Then act like it's quirky with a "you're probably wondering why I'm in bed with this stranger" or "just a day in the life". Like, BRUH. A full assault on the eyes, just cuz you're hot does not mean I need ass shots to get me invested. I'm getting triggered all over again lol