Do you, too, get super annoyed by them?
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16 11,2020
(This was initially part of an answer on 'tiktok weebs' but it slowly morphed into a rant about something else.)
[Not to mention] the young (I've only ever encountered minors doing that) so-called sjw advertising against BL and yaoi or whatever else work of fiction and genre because they heard "it's BAD and unethical and fetishization and no one can enjoy it unless they're a terrible person and the one who do need to grow out of it and reflect on their actions and change" like??? i've seen so many of them ? even before i actually got into BL for real and it made me so mad ?? not because i feel accused of some sort or that i'm trying to defend a behavior but because it is genuinely wrong and, condemning people for the content they consume is WOW such an asshole move.
And the lack of rationalization of this discourse... also the ignorance and the deliberate state of being unwilling to educate themselves on what they advocate against and its roots ?
I'm sorry but I'm mature enough to recognize problematic behaviors in characters/problematic tropes and so on. Yet I believe fiction MUST keep the right to portray those, whatever the intent or motive behind. I also think people who enjoy those shouldn't be yelled at or called "horrible people."
While we can point out the bad aspects of a genre, it doesn't mean people aren't allowed to still enjoy it in peace. As long as they don't harm or cause discomfort to others.
Being told that you're a fetishizer - in a very contemptuous/disgusted way (though I was never directly but it was aimed at people who consume content I may consume too) is very upsetting too?
Especially when they assume only cis straight girl consume m/m content for exemple and that you're undoubtedly one.
As a queer person in the ace spectrum that does not read BL and yaoi for the reasons they think of, it gives off such an incredible feeling of erasure.
Also it implies people who do are bad ? When there is really nothing wrong with reading yaoi because you're horny/because it turns you on/because you like m/m couples better... Like leave people alone ?
It's erasure because there can be a million reasons why someone reads yaoi and BL and yet they reduce the readers to one kind.
And even if the majority of readers does it for the same reason (which I doubt, because there are as many experiences as there're readers but let's admit that),
spreading hate to people, spreading hate to works in which so much time has been invested, spreading hate to creators who live off that... it's shameful, really.
If anything, it's thousand times more shameful than consuming the said-content.
[Not to mention] the young (I've only ever encountered minors doing that) so-called sjw advertising against BL and yaoi or whatever else work of fiction and genre because they heard "it's BAD and unethical and fetishization and no one can enjoy it unless they're a terrible person and the one who do need to grow out of it and reflect on their actions and change" like??? i've seen so many of them ? even before i actually got into BL for real and it made me so mad ?? not because i feel accused of some sort or that i'm trying to defend a behavior but because it is genuinely wrong and, condemning people for the content they consume is WOW such an asshole move.
And the lack of rationalization of this discourse... also the ignorance and the deliberate state of being unwilling to educate themselves on what they advocate against and its roots ?
I'm sorry but I'm mature enough to recognize problematic behaviors in characters/problematic tropes and so on. Yet I believe fiction MUST keep the right to portray those, whatever the intent or motive behind. I also think people who enjoy those shouldn't be yelled at or called "horrible people."
While we can point out the bad aspects of a genre, it doesn't mean people aren't allowed to still enjoy it in peace. As long as they don't harm or cause discomfort to others.
Being told that you're a fetishizer - in a very contemptuous/disgusted way (though I was never directly but it was aimed at people who consume content I may consume too) is very upsetting too?
Especially when they assume only cis straight girl consume m/m content for exemple and that you're undoubtedly one.
As a queer person in the ace spectrum that does not read BL and yaoi for the reasons they think of, it gives off such an incredible feeling of erasure.
Also it implies people who do are bad ? When there is really nothing wrong with reading yaoi because you're horny/because it turns you on/because you like m/m couples better... Like leave people alone ?
It's erasure because there can be a million reasons why someone reads yaoi and BL and yet they reduce the readers to one kind.
And even if the majority of readers does it for the same reason (which I doubt, because there are as many experiences as there're readers but let's admit that),
spreading hate to people, spreading hate to works in which so much time has been invested, spreading hate to creators who live off that... it's shameful, really.
If anything, it's thousand times more shameful than consuming the said-content.
Mommy honkers
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16 11,2020
