Straight yaoi and yuri
The trope I keep seeing are always Traditional feminine x masculine even in queer works and it's so tiring seeing the same bland damsel in distress, misogynistic view of how women/feminity should act personality where they will ALWAYS be the bottoms. Same goes for semes how they must be dominant, butch/manly and powerful.
In recent yaois I have been reading, there's always that one frail, broke, submissive, weak, pathetic, cute, and bottom virgin twink that looks like a girl and their personality evolves solely in being a fucktoy and being pathetic. Then, there's their partner, the strong, manly, dominant, buff, fuckboy top seme. It's horribly written. It's as if the author is almost depicting the bottom to be womanly just because they're a bottom. Where is the masc x masc? Switches? Maybe even twink x twink? I have no problem with twink x masc but they're always so horribly written and presented.
Same goes for Yuri. It's always butch x feminine where the top must be manly and the bottom must be feminine. Okay Yuri lowk still cooks with these tropes but why does it always have to be masc top x feminine bottom? I don't see fem x fem or atleast them switching. It's somehow sexist in its own way like feminine must always be bottom and masculine must be top.
I don't have problem with twinks or feminine bottoms, it's just that the way they're badly written sometimes. Btw my english grammar is not good so I may have phrased things wrong so you can argue back and correct me but this is js my opinion
I don't read straight or BL stories so I can't comment on those, and this is just a general question, not trying to be mean so sorry if it sounds mean, but how many yuris have you actually read to say "it's always butch x feminine," because I genuinely think there is more feminine x feminine than masculine x feminine yuris LMAO. Don't even get me s......
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Where tf y'all getting butch×fem yuri???? Like 90% of yuri is fem×fem(increase that percentage if you're talking about yuri manga) .... I swear whenever someone complains about some phenomenon with yuri on this God forsaken website it's always such a non issue. Just say you wanted to complain about 99% of yaoi being heteronormative (which is expe......
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Actually, one of the main reasons I don’t read much yuri(pls don’t hate me) is BECAUSE of the lack of butch rep and 90% of it being fem x fem. I don’t really enjoy read romance’s where one of them is dainty and feminine which is why I only read masc x masc in yaoi.
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PLEASE point me in the direction of all this butch x fem you supposedly keep seeing i beg
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Trueee, i dont usually read yuri but i read lots of BL manhwas and there are many with buff and dominating bottoms. I read many so if u want i can tell u some.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS STRAIGHT YURI!!!!!!! BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!! i can't speak on yaoi but top and bottom terms don't apply to yuri because topxbottom refers to penetrative gay sex, that's not to say that domxsub isn't something that exists in yuri and real life lesbian relationships but it's just not the same thing,,, also bu......
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Your point makes sense. A lot of BL and GL stories fall into that rigid formula where masculinity automatically means dominance and femininity automatically means submission. It ends up recreating the same gender roles that queer stories could have challenged in the first place. Instead of two characters with their own personalities, the relationsh......
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Fr, people still like heteronormativity despite everything they say. And it's really hypocritical of people, especially to say Nakyum(I I don't know the correct spelling but he's the bottom from POTN) looked like a girl just because his hair got longer, because when his hair with short he still looked like a girl.
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where is the butch femme yuri ffs ppl hateeewwee seeing non males representing themselves in a masculine manner ;;;; and i gotta say even though you are right for the pathetic bottom and poorly written heteronormative story etcetc its still a same sex relationship so i wouldnt call them straight it js feels wrong at some points
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this. sometimes i don't mind twink x buff dude but it genuinely gets me so uncomfortable like the author just puts on hetero lens to the story and it's crucial for the couple to have a frail, shy and innocent guy who can't protect himself when he's a fucking adult who's old enough to fend for himself. it's either this or the role is reversed and no......
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