Again this stories with second lead misery and poor treatment. Can you girl at least show ...

Misa_03 February 6, 2021 1:35 pm

Again this stories with second lead misery and poor treatment. Can you girl at least show some kindness to the only one person who tried to find you? Who even come to past? U heartless, still will be eventually in live with ml, so do not give me this fcking excuses first revenge. U are acting stupid now as u were before for being obedient to save the family that neglected you

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    SaltyOmelette February 6, 2021 2:53 pm

    Well she was forced to be turned into a tool to be passed down and used by the people that she hates while being unable to die for many years so imo its understandable that shes gonna prioritize her revenge first over people that have died centuries ago(in her past life) and she did say that at the competition that she doesnt hate his former fiancé but her accumulating hatred is far too great for him to disrupt her plans. (This is just my opinion tho so feel free to disagree)

    Misa_03 February 6, 2021 3:09 pm
    Well she was forced to be turned into a tool to be passed down and used by the people that she hates while being unable to die for many years so imo its understandable that shes gonna prioritize her revenge fir... SaltyOmelette

    Well... i understand... but still...she shows some bit of kindness to seveth concubine...but not for the only person who cared abt her...at least she could give some lil bit explanation...at least...say thank you? But it does not mean that i disagree with you, i get ur point and partially agree

    atoxicbanana February 6, 2021 5:34 pm
    Well... i understand... but still...she shows some bit of kindness to seveth concubine...but not for the only person who cared abt her...at least she could give some lil bit explanation...at least...say thank y... Misa_03

    well to be fair, it was justified why she didn't want kahu to be involved with her anymore coz

    1. she said nobles marry only to tie families together (political reasons)

    2. she didn't know kahu had feelings for her judging by the way she questioned him tryna find her (in her monologue) after she was turned into a sword in the past.

    3. her revenge plan doesn't involve kahu, so liz not bringing kahu into this revenge plot is probably for his own good. coz it might get dangerous for kahu.

    Misa_03 February 6, 2021 5:55 pm
    well to be fair, it was justified why she didn't want kahu to be involved with her anymore coz 1. she said nobles marry only to tie families together (political reasons)2. she didn't know kahu had feelings for ... atoxicbanana

    But, i did not said to be kind out of knowing his love or smth. I know about the 1st your reason, still it does not mean she did not know abt how he treated her with kindness, even herself said that if she did not become a sword she could have peacefully lived with him as a married couple. And it is not abt your 2 reason, bc respect and some kind of kindness do not necessarily involve love. Abt your 3rd reason, if she at least told him that " sorry, even though i brought back the first foremost i would like to focus on my aim. However, thank you for trying to find me" smth in thise lines. It is not like here she would share any of her plans, and she would also reassure him without much hurting his feelings and so on. So....this little kindness should have been enough

    Séraphina February 6, 2021 6:33 pm
    But, i did not said to be kind out of knowing his love or smth. I know about the 1st your reason, still it does not mean she did not know abt how he treated her with kindness, even herself said that if she did ... Misa_03

    Kahu isn't completely aware that they went back in time and shit. If she said thank you to him for trying to find her then that would solidify his suspicions that something really did happen and our mc is trying to change the future now. Many questions would come up which could only bring more trouble. And seriously our mc is planning on completely destroying an empire. She doesn't have time to play nice and others knowing about it could ruin her plans.

    Misa_03 February 6, 2021 6:45 pm
    Kahu isn't completely aware that they went back in time and shit. If she said thank you to him for trying to find her then that would solidify his suspicions that something really did happen and our mc is tryin... Séraphina

    Well. If this gonna be abt only destroying an empire without any sympathy or at least kindness or little respect...this is no different from her being a tyrant then and imm drop this. However, she is gonna destroy Empire bc she could not stand being used to kill innocent. It is not abt playing "nice" as u said, but at least some respect for ONLY ONE PERSON WHO CARED FOR HER! when she evem cared for a person not related for her not a lil bit - seventh concubine. And again if u said there is no place for playing "nice", should i say it is against her initial wishes of being nice and not murdering those who deserve it?
    I kinda wanted to agree with what u said in the beginning, maybe he really did not realise he is back in time, even though he said " u are alive" and when she said "u thought i disappeared", which give us a hint that he actually realised he is back and that girl too after this question. He is not totally confused, he know he is back, he just does not know why everything in his memories involves her presence.

    Kaito.Hat February 6, 2021 6:54 pm

    She doesn't have to show kindness if she doesn't want to. She's canonically a very neutral person. If it doesn't benefit her/her revenge, she won't really bother with it--that's sort of the person she's become after unwillingly killing people for 4 centuries.

    In any other situation, I don't think she would've snapped like she did here (maybe shown the respectful distance/fake niceness she does with everyone else) But she acted very defensively because her ex was the first to notice that the time line isn't right, that she wasn't meant to be here, alluding to her life as a sword which triggered her.

    SaltyOmelette February 6, 2021 6:58 pm

    W8 correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt she being nice to the seventh concubine because she is the mother of the prince and is loved dearly by him? So in order for the prince to side with her she has to get close or befriend the seventh concubine

    Kaito.Hat February 6, 2021 7:14 pm
    W8 correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt she being nice to the seventh concubine because she is the mother of the prince and is loved dearly by him? So in order for the prince to side with her she has to get close ... SaltyOmelette

    That's right. She says she wants to get closer to her in order to 'seduce' him (non-romantically, I think)Though I'm not sure if she's also planning to take credit for giving 7th concubine the flower that will ease her pain in order to get closer to the prince, or if her good heart just doesn't want to see any more needless suffering.

    atoxicbanana February 6, 2021 8:25 pm
    Well. If this gonna be abt only destroying an empire without any sympathy or at least kindness or little respect...this is no different from her being a tyrant then and imm drop this. However, she is gonna dest... Misa_03

    she can't be nice to him. she doesn't want him to get in the way and yes this manhwa is about her taking revenge so she won't be nice nor kind to a lot of ppl and as u said if you don't like tropes like this, you'll drop it. so feel free to.

    another thing is kahu is just wondering why only liz is different. he doesn't know for sure tht liz went back in time as well. and liz just does not want kahu to be involved. if you're nice or kind to someone, undoubtedly they will try to approach you again. and liz is trying to prevent tht from happening. she said it herself she doesn't want kahu to be involved. honestly if kahu was involved tho, i'm thinking kahu would be used as a pawn for her revenge. so tht would've been even worse don't you think?

    and just to be fair, the translations are abit wonky. parody scans have always been a teeny little inaccurate with translations so there might be smtg lost in translation here as well (and i meant page 9&10). and the original may not have been as rude as you said it to be coz honestly, even the translated ver of this manhwa, i don't really think tht what she said was rude when she is a single noble lady who does not wishes to have any scandal while being the prince's tutor. just saying tho.

    Misa_03 February 6, 2021 8:37 pm
    W8 correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt she being nice to the seventh concubine because she is the mother of the prince and is loved dearly by him? So in order for the prince to side with her she has to get close ... SaltyOmelette

    That is the case, but then she thinks trully thinking how she is lovely and nice and in the very beginning she just wanted to be on a good side of a mother, but after seeing her she then decided to participate to obtain that herb

    Misa_03 February 6, 2021 8:38 pm
    That's right. She says she wants to get closer to her in order to 'seduce' him (non-romantically, I think)Though I'm not sure if she's also planning to take credit for giving 7th concubine the flower that will ... Kaito.Hat

    It is primary bc of her good heart, bc u know, she did not had a mother or family to take care of her so seeing that scene she was moved

    Kaito.Hat February 6, 2021 8:43 pm
    It is primary bc of her good heart, bc u know, she did not had a mother or family to take care of her so seeing that scene she was moved Misa_03

    You're right, that's a good point.

    Misa_03 February 6, 2021 8:45 pm
    She doesn't have to show kindness if she doesn't want to. She's canonically a very neutral person. If it doesn't benefit her/her revenge, she won't really bother with it--that's sort of the person she's become ... Kaito.Hat

    U know. If we follow ur logic that ppl can do everything bc they want to, then, we also can not hate or resent the action of the king bc u know... he does not want to listen to the thoughts of the sword.
    And she is not necessarily neutral, bc her primary aim was to kill those who supported emperor while she does not want to kill innocent ppl.
    And she should bother with it at least a tiny bit bc, in her whole shitty life, again he was the ONLY ONE to think abt her. I did not say to explaing everything and so on, but not be so rude and show even a little respect for those who cared for her. At least for the thanks of getting an attention she was eager for her whole life.
    And bc her trigger it does not still justify her, bc he does not said anything offensive, especially if she is a neutral character , bc those are the ones to know when they should be rude, specifically to ppl who tried to offend on purpose. Whereas here bc he remebered his past life, u are saying, she has the right to not be at least respectful, for again only person that cared for her, to even return to the past???

    Misa_03 February 6, 2021 8:48 pm
    You're right, that's a good point. Kaito.Hat

    Thank u, for understanding me ╥﹏╥ (●'◡'●)ノ