His jealousy stems from the fact that they JUST met. He didn't know how she dresses around other guys. So, he DOES have a reason to be jealous. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
Okay, I say, every country is different. They have different cultures and different atmospheres. Thus, they warrant different people, different norms and etc. (=・ω・=)
It goes in a cycle since PUBLIC OPINION can change the norms and atmosphere of a country. #-.-)
Some PUBLIC OPINION had even CHANGED the CULTURE even if THOSE changed cultures were NOT FROM THE WEST.(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Therefore, dressing modestly may be a norm in some countries. THIS MANGA is from where? It is NOT from the west. It was from Japan. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Japan has different culture, different norms and different public opinion from any other countries. Whether it was China or Korea, they are different. ヾ(☆▽☆)
If I think of Japan, I think of people with neat clothes. It gives out a clean/cheerful or whatever feeling. Her clothes MAY be considered revealing in Japan. (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Sure, she is wearing casual clothes inside her house but ML was worried about her carefree attitude she MIGHT act in front of other guys.(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
Another thing. MOLESTERS are human. They have a brain. ┗( T﹏T )┛
Although we want to call them brain dead for assaulting people. We have to face reality: MOLESTERS HAVE BRAINS. They do not just attack anybody. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
They would select their prey carefully. Well, it is true that not everybody is the same, so, not all molesters are the same. Some of them may actually be brain dead and some may NOT PLAN before they attack; they either stupid or a newbie. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Those serial killers that rape before they kill MAY even have the gadgets to attack people in pairs or groups of 3. ╥﹏╥
Since, the prevention of going in groups of 3 does not work, the possible victims could only think up another prevention. #-.-)
A prevention they think up COULD be walking in groups of 5 or 6. That way if the serial killers attack them, it would make a large movement and attract attention. MOST PROBABLY the attack would FAIL. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
But, as I had mentioned in one of my replies before, CRIMINALS get SMARTER.
This situation is USUALLY when one KNOWS there was a serial killer case NEARBY or in one's COUNTRY. People DON'T KNOW where a serial killer would make his NEXT MOVE, so they could only READY themselves.(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Another thing: Sure, wearing clothes one seem modest may not work and may not lessen the attack. Maybe not in that certain country. Maybe not to some certain guys. (=・ω・=)
As I said, humans are different. Although they have something in common, they have something that is different too. What you deem MAY NOT WORK may actually work in some other countries.(/TДT)/
Well, guys in SOME OTHER COUNTRIES may be rationale at all times. It just so happens that some things provoke them MORE THAN OTHER THINGS do. And wearing immodest clothing MIGHT be the trigger to the SOME guys in THAT COUNTRY.( ̄へ ̄)
Well, preventions are only for those who want them. Since you don't deem covering yourself to be a prevention. Then, do whatever you want. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
But, even if you don't deem it to be a prevention; it doesn't mean others don't. Just because it doesn't work at your area or whatever news you've seen, it doesn't mean it doesn't work in other places you didn't see. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
Humans don't see everything. Humans don't know everything. The news don't tell people everything. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
While I understand that you don't deem covering yourself to work at your place. Don't deem it to NOT work at other places.(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
I believe one should not deny things for what they are just because they have skepticals for it. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
Isn't it like love at first sight? I heard some people don't believe in love at first sight. However, the fact that some others believe in them means that those "love at first sight" may actually happen and it may not be due to some SURFACE attractions. (⌒▽⌒)
It could be happening at places one could not see. One could deny that it doesn't happen around one, but PREFERABLY don't deny that it happens in some other places.┗( T﹏T )┛
Summing up, DON'T deny that covering yourself is NOT a prevention. As it may work it a situation in some area you can't see. It may have also work when a possible victim didn't know it worked herself. (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Well, humans have brains. They should analyze the situation themselves. Think up preventions themselves. As there is no jack of a trades prevention in this always changing and unique world. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Anyways, when you say that the jealousy stems from just meeting, wdym? Do you think because they just met that gives the man a reason to be jealous over her body? It’s hers, not his, attacks are high in almost every country, what you deem modest, is like you said, may not be considered modest in another country. But that doesn’t meet that that gives someone the right to attack.
Nobody is saying to go out naked. That's nobody's point.
But I am telling you, as a person living "in the west" that people wear normal clothes (we have laws against unlawful exposure).
And Still, people get attacked or approached by molesters or assaulters everywhere.
Women not being drunk, not wearing revealing clothes, not even makeup are attacked.
Molesters chose their vicrims and we can indeed do nothing about it. But what we CAN change is this rhetoric that the victim was looking for it. Nobody's looking for anything. At all. Even if I were to go out naked, NO ONE has the right to touch one hair on my head without my permission. I am taking things quite far, nobody's actually going out naked but it doesn't make it anh less true.
Saying that clothes are the reason people get attacked is like saying people who do not wear your definition of "modest" clothes DESERVE to be treated like this. That's not true. The one who is against the law is the molester.
I should not have to change my habits to cater to the whims of a sick individual.
As for being accompanied wherever you go... no way!! Women are not children or pets.
When this happens, women will be dependant on men to protect them again. Who ever wants that????
Whitehana, by your pseudonym I would think you're a woman, would you like to be escorted anywhere you go?
Would it not bother you to dress up in order to hide instead of in expression of your personality and uniqueness?
If everyone dressed modestly, it would become the norm and still, the molester would not stop, he would attack someone. So your only solution is to dress more modest than your neighbor in the hopes he will choose her instead of you?
And it would go on and on until women HAD to dress a certain way or they'd be wh**es until they became unable to dress up at all.
Nobody has the rights to anything. Who gives out rights? The law didn't say a preparator has the rights to attack anyone? Public opinion goes for a moral high ground. So, a man has no rights to ATTACK a woman. I don't think a preparator thinks about rights when attacking someone though. ( ̄∇ ̄")
Yes, they just met. But, it was a reunion after separating from his lifelong crush. He was even deciding whether to continue liking her after meeting her. So, he is conflicted that she may not think of him as a man as she just defenselessly showed her cleavage in front of him. Well, there are those kinds of problems with childhood friends. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
She also didn't seem to notice her way of dressing distracts him(a guy). Therefore, he reminded her. He cares about her and he cares about other guys ogling her. So, what's wrong with reminding her? (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
He wants her to know that some guy COULD get their way with her and her revealing clothes are the ones that made SOME SCUMS decide to prey on her. (⊙…⊙ )
It is her body but it is not wrong to care about it because she is his crush. I say he had only cared about it BECAUSE she is his crush. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
P/S: Debater's Last Reply To You.
I don't know if I made this reply to you but I say covering oneself is A prevention. However, humans need to analyze their problems and think up a solution to their problems THEMSELVES. (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
As I had said, covering up oneself is A prevention. It is A prevention among the MANY OTHER prevention. Why? Because it works in SOME situations.( ̄へ ̄)
You CAN'T deny that covering up oneself COULD be A VERY EFFECTIVE prevention in SOME cases SOMEWHERE in the world.(/TДT)/
Just because it is not in your radar, the fact that it is known as A prevention shows that it ACTUALLY WORKS. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
One could be dressed up at home, a relatives home, a workplace; anywhere one feels the security is alright(being with many acquaintances is included). But, ONE THE WAY to a place is definitely NOT secure. So, why not cover yourself ON THE WAY to a secure destination(I don't feel the need to look glamorous on the street). ╮( ̄- ̄)╭
When I say one should go out with at least 3 people; who said they are ONLY accompanying you? When anyone of the 3 goes out, the whole group follows. The 3 people could negotiate whether it is relevant to go somewhere; THAT is how it works.
(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Asking a STRONG guy to accompany one... One HAS TO MAKE sure that guy is ACTUALLY strong. It is not like one can find STRONG guys everywhere. If the guy is NOT STRONG ENOUGH to tackle someone, then he is not considered strong enough to be of help in one's situation. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍
The guy is only accompanying one to one's destination and picking one up when going back. The guy IS the one who's inconvenienced. Imagine the guy is one's old son. It's not so bad to be accompanied by someone ON THE WAY to a secure destination. As for how to deal with the guy's feelings, one should think of a way oneself.( ̄へ ̄)
Humans have BRAINS, they should think and analyze THEMSELVES as they are the ones who are most familiar with the situation they are in. They could get advice, evaluate the advice and see if it is of help in their situation. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
P/S: Debater's Last Reply To You.
Hey, folks! It has been 3 days since I replied to this topic.
Having to go against 3 minds; critical thinking and metacognition had made my brain fluids constantly low. So, this debater is going off the stage!
Goodbye~ Have a great day~ (≧∀≦)
P/S: If you wanna chat, I welcome chatting but not debating. Argh, my brain's tired from debating. Dabbing into this and that. Well, I don't think this is the place if you want to chat though. I am only available for chatting on Discord.
Don't worry, I think nobody has any arguments that you consider at all. It's okay, everyone has different opinions and endlessly debating won't change anyone's minds.
Plus, you started out responding to the comments and now you're out of arguments it seems. Not a criticism though.
You think something, I think something else. Neither of us were convinced by the other's argument.
Let's just agree to disagree.
Ikr I feel like I don't understand men(at least some men) like you have everything out there on the internet.Its not like women's body is a mystery to them but they still can attack you for just your bra strap showing a little or the shape of your butt.A fairly large amount of these molesters aren't even virgins.A lot of them even have families and they molest women in public.There are a lot of desires a person could have an I find it astonishing how they an control the desire to punch their boss in the face when he's a jerk which would only make them lose their work but not when they pounce on a woman to rape her which could sentence them to prison,make them lose joband face in society.
You are so right. there is this "men will be men" mentality going around like they can't help themselves or they don't have brains.being stronger than people doesn't cause a person doing shit to them.Why don't they say that you get murdered cause you're weak or bullied cause you're weak .That you will get murdered cause the murderer couldn't help not killing you after a look at your "killable" body. If you're not armed with a gun you got what's coming your way.Desire overtakes them and they lose control and end up killing you.i hate how people don't veiw crime against women as they veiw other crimes.
Dressing someway to save oneself doesn't mean I want someone else to be attacked instead ,it means simply that I don't want to be attacked.
Also there are some places and some times where being molested can be prevented by dressing in a modest way but you wouldn't expect someone to not take that fact into consideration so that she would be able to catch a molester or save someone else from being a victim.An ordinary woman has a lot o priorities it could be your family ,your dream occupation or something else so you wouldn't nessecarily feel such strong emotions to fighting these molesters as they would to avaoiding them.Because you can never be sure of what outcomes it would have and luck and circumstances of a person also play a factor and if they play against you it would be really bad.In such a situation later both persons pay a price,But what is sad is that one person Does not deserve to but still does.And after what happened, happened you can do nothing but feel sorry.You can punish the perpetrator of the crime but the emotional,physical,menal and social trauma still remains.
Both sides in this debate are correct.If you view the issue as something concerning the women community as a whole then dressing modestly feels like being subdued by such molesters but the fact remains that just thinking like that in real life doesn't solve anything and you can't seperate who is a molestor and who isn't just by looking at faces.the sec perspective would be as an individual women who'd not want to be a victim cause she doesn't want any disturbance in an otherwise smooth sailing life.
I personally didn't feel like the guy in manga did anything really wrong cause even as a woman if any of my girlfriend's in stared at lustfully by creepy strangers in street I would worry and since she seemed really defensless that time he worried that some guy might do the unthinkable to her and so just wanted to warn her in case she wasn't aware of it before hand.Sometimes you don't see things you don't want to see but later realize that you were in a really vulnerable situation and are glad that nothing bad happened.
What if you walk into an area prone to robbery clothed in expensive clothes and watch,now you can or can't be robbed but what if you get robbed stripped off your clothes and wallet and that personalso stabs you so you couldn't be report them later.Now your family later wishes you hadn't gone out in that attire but none can bring back the dead and undo the damage inflicted on a lot of people.And people precious to you,in such a situation a person would choose prevention,of ANY sorts if possible.
I meant it as a rhetorical point, I'm not criticizing anyone's choice of fashion. Someone who likes to dress modest or slutty, both don't matter to me. I'm just making the point that clothes are just a convenient excuse for a molester. In fact, if anyone finds you attractive, you're done for. I'm talking from experience there. Wearing baggy jeans and a t-shirt (really tired that day and no motivation to dress up) and still got verbally accosted and got saved by a random person.
This was a reasoning by the absurd, I don't mean that modest people are bad at all. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
I just want people to acknowledge that SHE'S not the problem but the molester is. And yeah she was defenseless but it's not bad to be. I wish we could all be carefree about our way of dressing and such. If people didn't take what isn't offered!
Ps : I like the guy in the Manga, he's not bothering me, it's just that the speech gave me those kinda vibes and it was bothering me a bit. It's only my own opinion and feeling on the matter after all and it's totally normal that not everyone agrees.

I have to take notice of the fact that he deems her clothes to be too attractive to men. She's wearing normal clothes, she shouldn't have to fear being attacked by someone on the basis of the clothes she wears. It's not a good concept to throw around. It kinda makes people think that it's acceptable to be attacked when wearing this and that. And it's just not true. I know the story does not have bad intentions but I felt I had to mention it since it was bothering me.