wow.

Onigiri08 February 12, 2021 6:15 am

I really wanna smack this poor guy too tbh. the rich dude was being seriously kind yet he keeps taking it as being looked down upon. I get the feeling of not wanting to owe anyone anything especially when you're in that position but bruh..you're way too sensitive. if it means that much to you, then set boundaries...you're the one getting mad on your own without trying to communicate

the other dude is sincerely trying when in all honesty, you can just tell him why the things he does make you feel uncomfortable. he is completely receptive to it, knows how to reflect on his actions, and apologize. but someone being rich has a diff mindset and he is taking effort to try and understand you and wants to get close to you. he was honest from the beginning.

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    Lala_land19 February 12, 2021 6:57 am

    Really? He was *seriously* kind? Did we read the same manhwa? If you think that this is kind, then I don't wanna know what rude is for you. Ok he DID mean it kind but the way he showed it? Really not consideredate. And the MC was setting boundaries by giving him his money back and we all know how this worked out

    Jay February 12, 2021 7:31 am
    Really? He was *seriously* kind? Did we read the same manhwa? If you think that this is kind, then I don't wanna know what rude is for you. Ok he DID mean it kind but the way he showed it? Really not considered... Lala_land19

    I mean I get what they are saying, he was a total shit the beginning of the story but you can obviously see him progressing cant you? He's being considerate of the uke than before now, genuinly apologizing and living up to what he says, you can say it's character development.
    I do agree with the uke being sensitive also because even when he was trying to change the uke doubted him after the seme was clearly changing, may I say again.
    I'm pretty sure the uke giving him his money back is not setting boundaries because if he WAS setting boundaries he would've said so, but not all boundaries are set verbally so I'm 50/50 with you on that one.

    Onigiri08 February 12, 2021 9:34 am
    I mean I get what they are saying, he was a total shit the beginning of the story but you can obviously see him progressing cant you? He's being considerate of the uke than before now, genuinly apologizing and ... Jay

    this!
    this is exactly my point!
    I'm not excusing that the rich dude's behavior is acceptable...and the fact that he's trying to control, demand, and even coercing the poor guy into doing what he wants, despite it being out of real and genuine concern for him isn't how one should act. however, he is able to admit that what he does Is wrong.

    Being part of an extremely rich family definitely has its heavy weighted pressures on top of getting beaten for the smallest mistake and shown that only through power can you make people follow you...that kind of environment can only fuck you up and sour your personality. the poor guy even recognizes that slapping the rich dude triggered an emotional response from traumatic experiences yet he didn't even apologize for hitting him...only the rich dude was apologetic and even immediately regretting leaving a bruise and busting his lip...even insisted for him to treat it.

    Now that he's found someone he wants to be genuine is, he doesn't know how to act. Sure, he may not realize that for a poor guy living amongst snotty rich kids can mean that money and favors is a touchy subject and not the ideal way to get close to him, but that's probably only because he's only ever interacted with rich people. Conversations about your pet cat, what your dreams are, or a simple invite to play basketball or watching movies at home would be more comforting and a better approach than that. He probably doesn't know how common folk feel or think and just like he mentions, he's never known regret (or ever become conscious about how to treat people properly) until he met this poor guy.

    He is sincerely thinking about what he can do to be closer as well as asking about the things that are making this poor guy upset. if you notice, the rich dude is always the one opening the conversation and listening to the poor dude's side of the story. He cares about the poor dude is suffering. He wants to do what he can for him...but the only thing he knows how is to drop money or use what he has to help. investigating the dude's addy and phone number may be a bit much...but I feel like everything else was reasonable.

    offering school books, offering a ride, offering to study with him, offering a meal...friends do that ALL the time. he's only so repulsed by the idea because he feels like he's getting a handout from a rich guy. The rich guy should have picked up on this...but he was struggling with that concept but again kept opening the conversation as to why that was bothering the poor guy cuz he genuinely didn't understand.

    The poor guy's so guarded and sensitive and extremely prideful that he can't even accept genuine help from anyone. this also causes him to be closed off to ACTUALLY making friends or even talking to people...yet he get sad that no one approaches him...and then gets upset/angry when someone does with actually good intentions and desiring to help. like tf?

    Jay February 12, 2021 10:35 am
    this! this is exactly my point!I'm not excusing that the rich dude's behavior is acceptable...and the fact that he's trying to control, demand, and even coercing the poor guy into doing what he wants, despite i... Onigiri08

    Couldn't have said it better!

    Lala_land19 February 12, 2021 6:59 pm
    I mean I get what they are saying, he was a total shit the beginning of the story but you can obviously see him progressing cant you? He's being considerate of the uke than before now, genuinly apologizing and ... Jay

    Yes he is a little better now but! He was not at the beginning and it's understandable, that the MC is suspicious after all the shit happened

    Lala_land19 February 12, 2021 7:04 pm
    this! this is exactly my point!I'm not excusing that the rich dude's behavior is acceptable...and the fact that he's trying to control, demand, and even coercing the poor guy into doing what he wants, despite i... Onigiri08

    I get your point but I think you are too harsh on the little guy :( well he's having a hard time too on this school where everybody thinks that he's better than him and of course he is sad that nobody approached him. But he was doing well with that psycho bitch, so he's trying (although he should work better with his perseption of people xD)

    well look, he was thankful as the guy gave him his book at the begginging, wasn't he?

    Lala_land19 February 12, 2021 7:11 pm
    this! this is exactly my point!I'm not excusing that the rich dude's behavior is acceptable...and the fact that he's trying to control, demand, and even coercing the poor guy into doing what he wants, despite i... Onigiri08

    Sorry my comment was cut off...

    well look, he was thankful as the guy gave him his book at the begginging, wasn't he? But then the rich dude went like, here I bought you all the books because you are so poor and I do have so much money and I will buy you catering food because you don't have enough money to eat... And if you don't eat it I will make you do it... How should the poor dude react to his *good intensions*. Of course he was repulsive? They weren't really friends, why should he do all the stuff for him for free? He may be meaning the best, but he wasn't really nice, you know? Ok he's changing now and ok he didn't knew better, but that's not an excuse and the little guy didn't knew what he thought, so he was suspicious and prideful.

    So jeah after all this time the MC is giving him a chance so you should also be understandabl, that his trust must be earned and cannot be granted after one apology.

    Onigiri08 February 12, 2021 9:53 pm
    Sorry my comment was cut off... well look, he was thankful as the guy gave him his book at the begginging, wasn't he? But then the rich dude went like, here I bought you all the books because you are so poor an... Lala_land19

    yea. trust me, I understand where he's coming from. I'm coming across harsh because he came across as way too sensitive to me. I get that he had to work hard for 2 years just to pay off tuition and his dad has this enormous debt...so coming back to school with rich classmates 2 years younger has some invoked a sort of persecution complex. So he feels like eyes are on him and the gap to befriend people is large.

    but instead of getting heated and raising his voice to a guy showing kindness the way he knows how, he could have just calmly told the guy "it's not that I don't appreciate your gesture, but I hate owing people. I don't want you to look down on me just bc I have no money." tbh...if you want to escape poverty and swim amongst the sharks....you gotta be just as cunning and fierce. Striking up bargains and deals are capabilities you need. I thought he had top scores of this prestigious school....surely you'll understand supply and demand and work it to your advantage. SOMETHING. it would have been more thrilling this way and less frustrating and me wanting to smack him.

    I'm not saying it's all his fault and the rich dude has none. It's too much on both ends. The rich dude doesn't think about the poor guy's position on his own before it comes to an argument. but he's opening up the conversation in order to understand better about what acceptable behavior is.

    but then if they weren't on extreme ends of the spectrum, it wouldn't make for an interesting story I guess lol. because the more twisted people are, the more satisfying their growth and epiphanies will be.

    Onigiri08 February 12, 2021 10:01 pm
    Sorry my comment was cut off... well look, he was thankful as the guy gave him his book at the begginging, wasn't he? But then the rich dude went like, here I bought you all the books because you are so poor an... Lala_land19

    another thing that stood out for me was when the poor guy said something along the lines of not inviting the rich guy over (of course cuz he's embarrassed about how shabby his place is instead of being proud that he's working hard to afford to even live on his own like that, going to a prestigious school despite having a large debt) unless they are close, the rich guy gets excited about taking up the challenge and once the poor guy turns around "it's okay cuz I have. no intention of becoming close to you or anyone." This was one of the big moments that made me want to slap him because he was so contradictory.

    like you want people to approach you and be friends with you, but you won't let them find out the situation you're in and help you or at least allow them the opportunity to let them accept your situation and acknowledge the fact that you're a hard worker and don't want any favors. How will that become a real friendship?

    Lala_land19 February 13, 2021 2:30 am
    another thing that stood out for me was when the poor guy said something along the lines of not inviting the rich guy over (of course cuz he's embarrassed about how shabby his place is instead of being proud th... Onigiri08

    It looks like we both don't know the names I just call them the modern nakyum and seungho

    ah and yes the poor guy could have be like a shark but he's only a teenager and still don't understand how to speak or think rationally sometimes. Like the thing about inviting him over or talk to him, so that he understands. First he didn't really knew what the problem was, so he can talk this out and second to talk and think like you do, he would need a really high self esteem, which he obviously don't have... I hope his character development would go in this direction.

    Look I don't thing that your opinion is wrong only that you are too harsh an modern nakyum... And too understandable on the modern seungho... Like they are both not the best version of themselves at the moment, so let us hope for a fast development

    Jay February 13, 2021 2:53 am
    It looks like we both don't know the names I just call them the modern nakyum and seungho ah and yes the poor guy could have be like a shark but he's only a teenager and still don't understand how to speak or... Lala_land19

    lmaoooooo

    Onigiri08 February 13, 2021 5:38 am
    It looks like we both don't know the names I just call them the modern nakyum and seungho ah and yes the poor guy could have be like a shark but he's only a teenager and still don't understand how to speak or... Lala_land19

    LMAO. yea I don't remember.
    I know you don't. I'm just expanding. and it's not that I'm too understanding nor do I think the rich dude is right..I'm just as frustrated. but again the better the character growth for both people. I'm excited for the future chapters cuz it's gonna be satisfying