Any rapist in any manga/manwha on this site would be a better choice of partner than Shiwo...

Quicksilver February 12, 2021 10:18 pm

Any rapist in any manga/manwha on this site would be a better choice of partner than Shiwon. I just hope that when you grow up and live through an encounter with a monster like Shiwon, you'll think back to this story when you thought Shiwon's behavior was love.
I really can't believe that so many women can be so naive.

Responses
    Fluffy_Mochi February 16, 2021 8:01 am

    So shiwon is the guy with the red hair right, cuz i dont believe the guy with silver hair ever raped the mc. He was very respectful. Correct me if i am wrong. I might have just missed an episode.

    The Misanthrope February 24, 2021 10:21 pm

    I think you guys mistook their names. Shiwon is the silver haired guy. Hyundo is the redhead kid. Shiwon is a gentle understanding guy. He was the one who didnt go all the way with mc cuz mc cried and he didnt dump mc even after hyundo fucked mc.The one tht threaten n raped mc is hyundo (when he just got together with his lover). I just find the ending of hyundo n mc abit lackluster. I just wish he beat up hyundo instead of forgiving him tht easily.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 12:27 am
    I think you guys mistook their names. Shiwon is the silver haired guy. Hyundo is the redhead kid. Shiwon is a gentle understanding guy. He was the one who didnt go all the way with mc cuz mc cried and he didnt ... The Misanthrope

    nope. Hyundo is the good one. That rape was not part of the original script. It was when Aiju did an about face and let the fans write the rest of the story - right in the middle of the scene that was OBVIOUSLY supposed to be Ian and Hondo making up and patching things up between them. Aeju changed it when she needed to villify the sweet young beautiful Hondo. Jeez. Read what I said about the real villain of the story: Shiwon. It seems like someone named Misanthrope would hate asshole, shitwon.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 12:29 am
    So shiwon is the guy with the red hair right, cuz i dont believe the guy with silver hair ever raped the mc. He was very respectful. Correct me if i am wrong. I might have just missed an episode. Fluffy_Mochi

    Okay. Just look at previous pages where I said what I thought - if you would be so kind as to do that. It sort of breaks my heart how so few people see through Shiwon.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 12:30 am
    So shiwon is the guy with the red hair right, cuz i dont believe the guy with silver hair ever raped the mc. He was very respectful. Correct me if i am wrong. I might have just missed an episode. Fluffy_Mochi

    Shiwon has gray hair. Hondo has red hair, is young, beautiful, and doesn't do anything wrong.

    The Misanthrope February 25, 2021 9:06 am
    nope. Hyundo is the good one. That rape was not part of the original script. It was when Aiju did an about face and let the fans write the rest of the story - right in the middle of the scene that was OBVIOU... Quicksilver

    I sincerely do not understand to the point that I think we are reading a different story. I have no clue of the original script or how it was planned to go. But from what i read hyundo was very sweet until the point where he meet with his first love and they got together. But when he heard mc n shiwon got together. He became batshit jealous. From what i read i see no problem with shiwon other than he argue with mc a lot over little things. Its a love triangle. Ofc shiwon gonna fight with hyundo. It seems ur bias of hyundo and mc. To me it doesnt matter who gets together with who. But once u do a taboo its is an eye for an eye.

    P.S if you reply please tell me the section where shiwon is being a manipulative jerk. Misanthrope is just the dislike people generally. Zero bias. I do have exceptions who I'm okay with. Dont give me hate due to the name. Like dude i didnt even call hyundo a monster even when u call shiwon a monster.

    Quicksilver February 25, 2021 9:50 am
    I sincerely do not understand to the point that I think we are reading a different story. I have no clue of the original script or how it was planned to go. But from what i read hyundo was very sweet until the ... The Misanthrope

    If you see no problem with Shiwon, I hope you never meet a Shiwon in real life.
    Here you go, these are excerpts. let me point out the obvious: Shiwon was the worst behaved character in the story. stalking, intruding on Ian and hondo's dates, contacting hondo out of Ian's presence, demanding marriage or "I'll never speak to you again" when he knew Ian had not yet had a chance to settle his feelings for Hondo, Putting Ian through the awful experience of ruthless ultimatums.
    Men like Shitwand never stop. That ultimatum marriage proposal was a dress rehearsal for the rest of the relationship. Ian will live from ultimatum to ultimatum with that shiwon freak. Anytime shitwon wants something, he will play that card "I'll never speak to you again if you....fill in the blank" if you go out with this or that friend from your college days, if you get that look on your face that says such and such, if you wear those tight pants, if you visit your mother who I don't like, if you won't pay 60% of the rent, if you won't cut ties with so and so, if you won't stop confiding in that bartender, if you won't quit your job, if you won't ...endless." That's the kind of ass you wanted Ian to be with.
    He will be following Ian in his car, waiting to appear in Ian's face no matter where Ian is. Ian will be looking over his shoulder from now on.
    There's your fluffy sh1t for a relationship
    Hondo didn't do anything bad. Calling him immature is everyone's one complaint. They're not able to give any other examples of his bad deeds because there aren't any. As opposed to shitwon, who was a villain.
    people raving about the change in the ending need to remember that Aeju didn't want the Ian/Shiwon ending. I don't understand why that's not important to you.

    The Misanthrope February 25, 2021 10:53 am

    Does it matter who the mc ends up with. Of the author planed to make hyundo n mc, well ok. Mc ended up with shiwon because the author got pressured. To be honest tht comes with the industry. People tend to be overly opinionated. Stories are written for readers. If there is no readers a story will be dropped. It's not as if I got involved in the pressuring of the author. My opinion comes from reading the finished result. Even if I say anything now its not as if I can change what happen to the author or the storyline.

    My opinion on why I think Shiwon's action reasonable:

    Its a love triangle. Its a story, it got to have drama. Its fictional. For god sake dont fight over a fictional character. Everyone got their own opinion.

    Intruding on the mc with hyundo. Hello?? It's a goddamn love triangle. Its not a love triangle if Shiwon just let hyundo be together with the mc no obstacle. If you want pure fluff no drama why are you looking at the author. Based on the authors previous story style i doubt the author will ever write pure fluff. Can you imagine a story when Shiwon doesnt even intrude at all.

    "I will never speak to you" like dude. The mc is dense. If you want someone to really think, you have to give them the worst case scenario. It is not the first story on this site that have this type of line. Shiwon had an unrequited love for mc since he met mc. If mc wants to be with hyundo he will have to leave anyway. And even if mc is not going to date shiwon. They will not talk because Shiwon probably gotta get rid of his feelings first. If mc rejected Shiwon, Shiwon will probably decide to kill his feelings.

    I think the only manipulative thing Shiwon ever did was the "I will never speak to you". He didnt even go beyond tht. The stalking. If you call that stalking what do you call real stalking. Real stalking is when u put gps and cameras all over the person. And never leave em alone. Have you read easy target by the same author. Like Shiwon is not as fucked up as tht. You wrote "any rapist in any manga/manhwa on this site" is better than Shiwon. Like dude have you read 'Killing Stalking'.

    Manipulative is when you pressure a person over and over again and not just once. Manipulative is when u chain up a person until tht person have no other choice but be dependant on you.

    Like you cant call a character evil for just saying "I will never speak to you". I say this multiple times to my younger brother.

    Its not even as if i hate hyundo. Its just at least punch him in the guts before forgiving him instead of just a damn smile.

    Its a story with fictional characters not real human beings or based on real life. You cannot say its naive to love this type of person. Like have you not seen worst??? I've seen worst type of manipulation before hence why I am called misanthrope. You called others naive but your arguement is the most naive one.

    ITS A STORY. without any drama its not going to be a good story to read. A plot will always consist of conflict. You cannot review a story based on being bias for a character. But how the characters and the plot brings the story as a whole. If you dont like a character so be it but dont argue with other people because they dont share the same opinion as you. I only wrote a review based on the fact that i thought you mistook the character name, the second one was because you raged on my reply. This reply is because of your actions.

    Quicksilver February 26, 2021 4:52 pm

    I disagree with this: "Mc ended up with shiwon because the author got pressured. To be honest tht comes with the industry" Produce proof of that being common practice.
    I raged? You can't possibly know my mood, and I object to your assumption about me personally.
    You said, "You cannot review a story based on being bias for a character." I can review a story based on anything I choose.
    What I say is not disagreement. Shiwon certainly does everything I said he does, stalking, ultimatums etc. Your definition of stalking is incorrect. Stalking is repeatedly and covertly following someone.
    An author does not write a story based solely on what readers want. Don't be stupid.
    Doing that is producing a product.
    My comment was not about you. It was an objection to fans demanding that a story be what they want. That's spoiled brats behavior.
    MC was not with Shiwon first. He was with Hondo. He'd never previously been with Shiwon nor did he prefer Shiwon. He even preferred the new guy at the bar over Shiwon. Fans mistook the character of Shiwon. That's a pathetic comment on the intelligence of the readers. Shiwon was originally a plain, dowdy, character who turned into a villain and should have stayed that way.
    No, I haven't read Killing Stalking. I'm not big on violence.
    This is incorrect: "Manipulative is when u chain up a person until tht person have no other choice but be dependant on you." That is not manipulation. It's abduction. The result is sometimes Stockholm Syndrome. It's not part of this story.
    Manipulation mainly means being nice to someone not because you like them but because you want to get something out of them, money, gifts, etc.
    If you do this, "Like you cant call a character evil for just saying "I will never speak to you". I say this multiple times to my younger brother." That's not only manipulation, it's bullying, coercion, taking advantage of, and just plain mean. Don't lecture me on morals. Your conscience ought to tell you how wrong that is. I'm calling you evil.
    What exactly did Hondo do to warrant, "Its just at least punch him in the guts before forgiving him instead of just a damn smile." This is violence. Ian would be guilty of a crime and subject to prosecution. Also, it's stupid and uncivilized.
    I'm a lot of things, but naive isn't one of them.
    Don't attempt to instruct me with this, "ITS A STORY. without any drama its not going to be a good story to read. A plot will always consist of conflict."
    It's obvious to me, but it has nothing to do with my criticism.

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 4:14 am

    I'll also add that stalking certainly can be done to a targeted victim only once.

    Quicksilver February 27, 2021 4:21 am
    I disagree with this: "Mc ended up with shiwon because the author got pressured. To be honest tht comes with the industry" Produce proof of that being common practice.I raged? You can't possibly know my mood... Quicksilver

    hmmmmm..... this sounds like you're paraphrasing ME: ""IT' A STORY. without any drama its not going to be a good story to read. A plot will always consist of conflict."
    The difference is I would have used correct grammar. Get your own knowledge. Don't copy mine.

    ygirljae May 6, 2021 1:29 am

    I’m late but ofc you’re such a hypocrite. You claim that u actually care about his so called “stalking” when you’re literally a rape apologist. Instead of acting concerned just say that u mad he ended with the good guy and go. You piss me off

    Quicksilver May 6, 2021 2:08 am

    I am not a rape apologist. That's stupid. Everyone knows that rape is wrong. That should go without everyone having to say it every time they comment. Unfortunately, Ian ended up with one of the worst characters I've ever seen in the yaoi world, maybe even the worst. His destructive personality holds an overwhelming amount of potential for evil. He's a nightmare mate You should know this because everyone knows that Aeju was designing him to be the bad guy. That you can't see it, is your misfortune. I hope this lack of judgement doesn't follow you into RL

    ygirljae May 6, 2021 3:15 am
    I am not a rape apologist. That's stupid. Everyone knows that rape is wrong. That should go without everyone having to say it every time they comment. Unfortunately, Ian ended up with one of the worst chara... Quicksilver

    Lmao yes right u keep complaining about people who don’t support rape and refer to them as « haters » and then try to tell them what they should be aware of irl specially when it’s about a good character for once. that’s pathetic really don’t bring your toxicity in this masterpiece.

    Quicksilver May 6, 2021 5:56 pm
    Lmao yes right u keep complaining about people who don’t support rape and refer to them as « haters » and then try to tell them what they should be aware of irl specially when it’s about a good characte... ygirljae

    It's pointless to hate rape in fiction. Wasted emotion. I call people like you haters because you make personal attacks for no reason. Stay on topic.
    LOL Here's your masterpiece: Fan pressured, patched together, disjointed ending. Fans are lousy writers, and some of them don't know a villain when they see one.
    You just want to fight.

    Quicksilver May 6, 2021 6:03 pm
    Lmao yes right u keep complaining about people who don’t support rape and refer to them as « haters » and then try to tell them what they should be aware of irl specially when it’s about a good characte... ygirljae

    How do you "support rape?" Get on either side of it and lift it up?
    Everyone knows that rape wrong, even rapists know it's wrong. In fiction, however, it's free speech, supported by the first amendment. I hope you don't want to mess with people's freedom.