
I'm not saying that there's a problem with you reading it because it's fiction at the end of the day, I read it too since it's in a lot of yaoi. But my definition of rape definitely is NOT broadened. A lot of yaoi romanticize rape, so that's probably why you may think the rape scenes are not as bad as they seem.

Romance and rape - two mutually exclusive words. If the sexual part of two people's relationship includes romantic feelings, that seriously modifies the importance of your accusations of rape. Since there's not one single word or thought in your reply that you haven't borrowed from someone else, then how bout if you give me some original words of your own. Explain your endgame. What exactly do you want done about stories that we're all here to read as entertainment, as a delightful escape into a world full of gorgeous men doing sexual, flirtatious, and romantic acts with one another. you seem to want to sanitize the entire genre to your own rules. Meanwhile, thousands of us disagree with you and this rhetoric of condemnation against the men in our stories and the work of artists who create them and who we've always loved.

I mean yes. If you're looking to be offended, this will do it for you. I lke the story, I love the artist and her art so much. It's long so there's a story that develops. It's complete. The characters are sweet. The seme is.... I'd be spoiling so nevermind. 5 stars from me. The SJW's went into a state of hysterical outrage, bouncing off the walls, ceiling, flying around corners and out the window into traffic over it. For me that gave it more status points. haha I don't think these works deserve or warrant the level of hate these people express. It's inappropriate, and worse, it's insulting to the artists.

I like seduction, semes who get a bit pushy. semes who keep making out with the uke, up in the bedroom, hands under the pants and over the underwear. under the pants and under the underwear... talking that sweet dirty talk till the uke is so aroused that they say yes. Sjw's call that rape. fuk that, trying to abolish everything I find erotic. I'm getting to where I hate their guts for it.

okay. hold on. might be Renai Fuyuki Todoki. sorry. http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/renai_fuyuki_todoki/

Here maybe? http://www.mangago.zone/home/album/170832/
There are some rape story:)

I'm literally not saying there's anything wrong with reading it. If one party doesn't consent to it, then it's rape - I'm just stating facts. I read it too and am not telling the authors to abolish it or whatever. I'm just telling the truth that rape is used as a stepping stool towards their romance in yaoi, but I don't really see it as a problem because if that's what the authors want to do, then they can do it. All I said was that most yaoi have rape in them, because it's true, for example: Love is an Illusion, Kiss me Liar, If You Hate Me So and so on. If you want to read it, then go on because I'm not stopping you. I'm not a snowflake who would throw a tantrum at the sight of a rape scene and this argument literally happened because I said there was rape in practically 90% of yaoi on this website. I'm really sorry if I offended you because I was trying to make a joke then, but I guess it was my mistake.

Are you absolutely certain those facts are facts? first I want to say that maybe you didn't see my post where I said I know I said things too harshly. you don't need to say anything regarding sorry if you offended me when it's me being too harsh. About rape and consent... I'm pretty sure I'm older than most here, but only by a few years, and I wasn't taught any "woke" stuff. I believe that when new ideas that are different than the ideas held by previous generations going back at least a hundred years, those new ideas should be be closely scrutinized, not adopted without question. Why were you told that consent is unquestionably a law of life? It sounds good. It appears to make sense unless you look at it under a microscope. Then it falls apart imo. nothing is as black and white as that, especially when it comes to sex. There are plenty of times when consent is inappropriate, morally wrong even, and I say that the newspeak consent is as dangerous as no consent because it can obviously be used to victimize as well as protect ppl from being victimized. I could elaborate tremendously, but this post would bee too long.
I'm also saying that rape is way too strong a term for a lot of the sex in these stories. Rape is a criminal, violent act that has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with causing its victim injury and mental trauma. That just can't be said about much of the "rape" on this site. I think that stuffing everything into a general category called "rape," trivializes the suffering of the real life victims of a heinous crime.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and I don't agree with a system that indoctrinated an entire generation into an ideology that has never been tested on a real population.
I don't accept any societal stricture when my own deep scrutiny tells me it's wrong.

I'm just here to tell you that rape isn't inherently violent. That's just not true at all. It can violent but it isn't always. People who are passed out drunk can't consent, even if the sex isn't violent, it's still rape because they never consented to have sex and were not in a position to consent either. Rape is sexual intercourse when there'd lack of consent. The moment the othet partie says no and the person keeps going then yes it is rape. Coersing someone into saying yes to sex isn't consent either. I don't know why you're so uncomfortable with the notion of CONSENTUAL SEX

There are people who want to have sex very badly but can't consent. I wish you and your little friends who are so damned sure you have the right checklist to tick off so you know when it's rape would listen to reason for once in your lives. Some sex is not on your checklist because the people who rammed that checkist up your asses were idiots. I can see you swallowing that bs as a child, but to keep on having blind faith in it as absolute truth - wtf is wrong with you?
I wish all of you would stop talking down to me like I haven't heard your used-car-rape hard-sell a million times. Do you realize how mechanical you think of the act of sex? Like it's a machine that has to run on one kind of fuel only. The people who taught you children about sex were puppets who had no choice but to teach the sex curriculum to you as if there was only way. It's a load of horseshit.
And don't fuck sleeping or passed out drunk people, okay?. But if two people have a few drinks and go home and have sex. YES the hell they can consent. What a bunch of idiots you people are. Mostly for never questioning what you were taught as a kid. You're supposed to question that shit. grow the hell up

Why are you so agressive lmao. I feel like the idea of someone not actually consenting makes you upset because you don't actually understand the concept of consent. I just corrected you when you said rapes were always violent crimes when they are in fact, not violent alot of the times. If both parties were drunk I won't view it the same way as someone sober taking advantage of someone intoxicated, especially if they are not in a relationship where they have the possibility to talk about their sexual boundaries.
I need a good BL/yaoi rapist in a mangahwa. Can you please not give me lists? Unless it's a short list? I just need one.