Can’t she just let him explain himself ? HE FUCKIN REFRAINED FROM CALLING HER BY HER NAM...

ChoSunHi_10969 February 25, 2021 5:34 pm

Can’t she just let him explain himself ? HE FUCKIN REFRAINED FROM CALLING HER BY HER NAME BC HE DOESN’T WANT TO CONTROL HER ARGH STFU AND LISTEN

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    Nyelle February 25, 2021 5:43 pm

    Oh Sorry, i mean to upvote.
    And yeah, she's being a bitch acting like that

    ChoSunHi_10969 February 25, 2021 5:46 pm
    Oh Sorry, i mean to upvote.And yeah, she's being a bitch acting like that Nyelle

    It’s ok :) but seriously this is so frustrating gzjdhjd

    Chinchi February 26, 2021 3:46 pm

    ??? It's literally the opposite? He consistently used the same name as is required for the brainwashing spell. If you use a different name from what you started the spell won't work.
    He literally was trying to brainwash her. And felt that if he broke the brainwash he'd lose her. But he doesn't tell her. So what's she supposed to think? He followed every step of the spell correctly in order to brainwash her.

    ChoSunHi_10969 February 26, 2021 6:21 pm
    ??? It's literally the opposite? He consistently used the same name as is required for the brainwashing spell. If you use a different name from what you started the spell won't work. He literally was trying to ... Chinchi

    Wait . Fr ? It’s the opposite ????? But he never called her by her name :0 and it said he had to call her by her name to brainwash her ??? So doesn’t that means that he didn’t and doesn’t want to brainwash her ???

    Chinchi February 26, 2021 6:41 pm
    Wait . Fr ? It’s the opposite ????? But he never called her by her name :0 and it said he had to call her by her name to brainwash her ??? So doesn’t that means that he didn’t and doesn’t want to brainw... ChoSunHi_10969

    It says in ch. 31 that to initiate using their name and to continue using that name, and if "the style of address is broken the magic can be broken"
    It may not be her first name but it's still her name, and it's the first name he ever called her by. It's also stated that he uses his magic upon meeting people so from the very beginning that was his intent. So the reason he never called her anything different was to maintain the hypnosis magic.
    It's literally him trying to keep his brainwash up.
    Even if he's "trying to make amends" he hasn't actually addressed her by anything different in order to break the spell.

    ChoSunHi_10969 February 26, 2021 7:45 pm
    It says in ch. 31 that to initiate using their name and to continue using that name, and if "the style of address is broken the magic can be broken"It may not be her first name but it's still her name, and it's... Chinchi

    Weird... I thought he was forced to use the first name of his target to get it done... like, that's how i understood it :0

    Nyelle February 26, 2021 7:54 pm
    Weird... I thought he was forced to use the first name of his target to get it done... like, that's how i understood it :0 ChoSunHi_10969

    I understood like that too

    Chinchi February 26, 2021 10:17 pm
    Weird... I thought he was forced to use the first name of his target to get it done... like, that's how i understood it :0 ChoSunHi_10969

    No where does it say that it has to be the first name or even the whole name, just a name. I.e. how they're addressed and however they're addressed needs to be consistent. That's why he never changes how he addresses her from their first meeting.
    Her last name is still her name. So yea, he's still trying to brainwash her into a puppet.

    ChoSunHi_10969 February 26, 2021 10:20 pm
    No where does it say that it has to be the first name or even the whole name, just a name. I.e. how they're addressed and however they're addressed needs to be consistent. That's why he never changes how he add... Chinchi

    I think I was the brainwashed one here lmao. Thx for the explanations !!!!

    Chinchi February 26, 2021 10:38 pm
    I think I was the brainwashed one here lmao. Thx for the explanations !!!! ChoSunHi_10969

    Yup!! If you want to go back there are a few examples: in ch9/10 he hypnotized alice with just "Lady Limorand" and in 16 he makes it even more vague by saying it only has to be a title and a consistent location, not even a name.
    So it's pretty broad.
    It's understandable why she believes she's been hypnotized before.
    He's also aware of what repeated hypnosis does because he brought it up when talking about lady sheryl and the prisoner he showed Ed.
    So he also knows he could "break" Valrose as well, and he's still keeping it consistent.
    Yaaaaaay black magic. Lol

    ChoSunHi_10969 February 26, 2021 11:01 pm
    Yup!! If you want to go back there are a few examples: in ch9/10 he hypnotized alice with just "Lady Limorand" and in 16 he makes it even more vague by saying it only has to be a title and a consistent location... Chinchi

    Thank you so muchhhhhh ! Okay now I understand her better hdhdhd I wonder how will turn out the story