wait he cheated on him? I haven't started reading this yet so they were officially together and he cheated?
he didnt cheat. he just knew this guy had feelings for him and had sex with another guy but they WERE NOT in a relationship. People just hate on ukes that are freely sexual because of internalized misoginy
no, they weren’t dating. he just felt bad for sleeping with someone else and having mixed feelings when hwi already made it clear that he had feelings for param
i don’t think that’s necessarily true, param holds no feelings for this person other than to find out his relationship. he didn’t know anything about him, unlike w mr. han. his rationality was blinded due to his many years of unrequited love, while he was able to keep calm since he is just one step away from being a stranger to hwi’s friend. also, he never cheated on anyone. he never said he was just going to be w hwi, all he felt was guilt for leading hwi on. but since they were never dating, it can’t be considered cheating
oh that's fine they made it sound so bad I thought they were actually in a relationship or smth smh also the second part is so true
UMMMMM No we dont hate ukes who are freely sexual or at least I dont. if it was something he was going to feel guilty about doing then he shown have fucking done it and acted as if he was a victim to his free fucking will. Param could have fucked 20 other people and I would have cared if that was the type of person he was. but its not. it's clear to him that he can't go around fucking just anyone and that it has to be someone he cares about. with him realizing that and still making the decision to fuck Han even when at that point he had realized he wanted NOTHING to do with Han and was in love with HWI. that is why im upset with his decisions not cause he had sex but because he realized he's feelings and still did something that would hurt the person he was now claiming to love.
right context really matters here you explained it well
In other words, you slut shame. Good to know. You talk as if Param was 101 percent sure Hwi liked him which is patently untrue because Hwi never said shit. Just because we as the audience see it doesn't mean it's the same for the characters; that's the point of communication. You say he fucked up, can't deny it. He wasn't even mentally clear about the situation and was okay with having sex but so what? Hwi could have just as easily confessed and Param would have known. All I see here is some trash calling the bottom out for having sex with 2 different people he WASNT dating or anything and if that isn't slut shaming, I don't know what is. Check your biases at the door.
nah fuck that lmao they were together and that's the hill im dying on
I mean like I said I haven't read the manhwa seriously yet but I'm pretty sure param was in love with han for a long time so even if he realised he didn't have feelings for him anymore you could say he was blinded by his past long time crush on him as it was still kinda fresh and did it even if he knew he'll regret it after like let's not forget he was still conflicted and had mixed feelings and sure leading hwi on and fucking someone else isn't that great but if he and hwi were in realtionship there'd be no excuse for what he did
Curious about this. I dont think Param was leading anyone on. Did Hwi explicitly say "go out with me" or "I like you" (genuinely question)? If not, this is why communication has to be clear. Just like issues of consent, anything that isn't clear is an automatic no. Unless Hwi was explicit, you can't just assume Param would know what Hwi means. We know because we are the audience but these characters are modeled after reality and in reality, we don't have an all knowing audience to tell us this stuff. Param was as much a victim of the situation as Hwi.
But didn't he realize AFTER doing the deed tho? He was in a pretty confused state when mr han made the move, he still thought he liked mr han. Imo he was too overwhelmed to even think about hurting hwi. Only after that he realized his true feelings, which is for hwi, and the guilt but what's done is done.
"Slut shame" ? Param was in no way a "slut" idk how you got that impression. I'm upset with that fact that he wasn't true to his own feelings and im not going to praise him now that he his. he also wasn't mentally clear in this situation where alcohol was involved where in the situation with Han I dont remember there being alcohol there. Hwi LITERALLY asked him on a date because of his feelings for Param instead of just the normal fucking that they were doing so Im sure a confession wasn't far behind. is you see trash calling have another look. what it sounds like to me is you coming up with bullshit allegations about something youre not even clear on yourself. but go off sis
bro they weren't officially together you can't just deny that there wasn't a label on them
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No param knew his feeling the moment Hwi asked him on the Date. and idk what could be a more confused state than having alcohol in your system but if your gonna try to convince me that he could get out of the situation with Han if he wanted to it's not gonna work. It's not as if Han raped Param. he made that decision after finding out how shitty of a person Han really was, after realizing his feelings for Hwi, after coming to the realization that he didn't want to be with Han. and for that I can forgive him. I could have cared this much if the sex with Han was still because Param loved Han but that wasn't the case.
But that's what I'm doing sooo I'm not sure who you think is going to stop that.
It's not about what Hwi didn't do. I dont understand how your gonna blame the actual victim here who actually go hurt. Hwi did ask Param out on a date. Param decided he wanted to Fuck Han before that even after learning how shitty of a person Han actually was and after realizing that he wasn't really in love with Han. Param was not a Victim he was the cause. and honestly as much as I hate Han I'm not gonna blame him either. This was all on Param
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Lmao so you're saying you're pissed at Param for not being true to his feelings? Sure Jan. As if people were not creatures constantly conflicted by differing opinions at once. Asking Param on a date doesn't mean shit? You obviously can't tell what the essence of communication is and that is clarity. They fucked too. Can that mean they like each other? Of course not. Hwi should have be clear on what he meant by asking him on a date i.e. I like you. And slut shaming? That's on fucking you. You wrote "I'm not proud of him for doing the basic thing of not cheating on Hwi again" as if they were dating in the first place. You can only say he cheated if you consider him unfaithful to Hwi, i.e., they were exclusive. You weren't proud of him breaking exclusivity which is what cheating is, which is slut shaming. You think that Param and Hwi had to be exclusive. Why can't it be polyam? Why didn't you think maybe Han would be included? Cuz you assumed shit about their relationship.. Yeah, go off 'sister.'
Im not gonna praise Param here because this just goes to show what he did with Han wasn't a "fuck up" or a "mistake" it was a conscious choice. And I honestly dont think he should be forgiven so easily. I'm not proud of him for doing the basic thing of not cheating on Hwi again. There's nothing to praise here because the bar for him is already on the floor. All that happened here was that He made the decision not to fuck up again.