He should get help by talking it out with a therapist or call in some other adult to manage with him.
He is not dumping his responsibilities"maybe", but he is still actively letting his teen daughter clean, cook and manage her school by herself. Is she not supposed to be grieving or disturbed too because her parents are getting divorced? Rather than him acting as an adult, he is letting his daughter act like an adult. If he is not lazy asshole then he most definitely is a shit parent.
Children are not supposed to help work through a parent's own self generated shit.
Totally agree with u...
He may not have actively asked her to do things for him but he acted like a needy brat while HE is the adult in this situation and his daughter has not even reached the legal age of being an adult.
He sure doesn't stop her from doing all that and ask her about how SHE is feeling.
He is not, were you even once in the situation of Minju? Where you parent is nice and kind, and still is, but they sometimes give in. I did, and while all those responsibilities messed me up, I’m still proud of myself because I love my parent and I did want to do these things. What about the mom then? Is she not a shit parent? Because she’s the reason of all this in the first place if you read the raws. And it was her own messed up problems that caused the divorce. You really did not read my comment did you. If it was this easy to get out of a depressive state, depression would not exist. Even your lover making sacrifices for you can’t get you out of it, you’ll just feel more worthless, yes it’s sad, but you can’t help it. No parent is flawless. Your parents aren’t easier, and you, if you ever become a parent, aren’t gonna be a perfect parent either. Having one flaw (if this is even a flaw? He did not force his daughter. He still didn’t notice the hardships she went through, but as a parent even if you find some of them you’ll never be able to understand the things your child has been through) doesn’t make you a shit person.
Being an adult is tiring. Being a parent is tiring too. Yes she shouldn’t have to do this but if you parent always has been kind to you, treated you well, and they are tired, it’s decency to comfort them. I don’t know about you but when I help my dad, I think it’s tiring, but I like to do it, and I’m not excepting anything. And he’s what, 40 or something? It’s not the easiest age to be at. Surprisingly enough, old people aren’t the only one that need care. Either you’re a very spoiled kid with perfect parents either you went through many hardships and you just don’t like that someone doesn’t mind going through them. Both Minju and her dad have hardships, but they are happy together, it’s what counts. It’s really not a situation you can judge if you’re not one of the concerned characters
I personally think no one should put that on their child.
That doesn't make them a bad person. Everyone has flaws... and yes it is a flaw not to be able to take care of yourself and not taking responsibility for your child in their time of need.
I believe if someone does that it makes them fail as a parent in that situation.
I think it's a parent responsibility to take care of the child at least while they are minors.
Also it is true that he didn't ask her to do that but he didn't asked her not to either.
He didn't tell her that she should be focusing on school nor did he tell her that they could clean the house together or that he could help her with cooking.
He just sat there and let her do everything. Smugly expecting her to do everything because of some unknown messed up reason.
I understand what you mean. I do think I’m being biased here but for personal reasons I can’t help it. You can see in the story that the mother is trying to take Minju to leave with her for her selfish reasons without asking what does Minju want. This is a situation I’ve been through except my mom was more horrible, tried to kidnap me, and I’m only with my dad now. This is probably why I’m biased towards Minju’s dad (I remember him being very cool in the raws), because since I witnessed for myself I know how hard the process of divorce and child guard can be, especially when you’re the one losing when you didn’t do anything wrong. You just keep thinking it’s unfair, and for what purpose did you even raise a child if you can’t even see them (it’s kind of selfish to say since you don’t own your child, but well) I’m ranting but I guess you’re right, because of my experiences I just deemed those things as bearable when for some it’s not. Thank you for not being an asshole because I was kind of a b*tch ahah
I agree with you...people always assume that when you reach adulthood you have everything together and figured out but you really don’t. minju’s father seems very caring, opposite of Marie’s father/brother. i think the divorce was also taking a toll on him and minju isn’t a baby anymore. she took on the responsibility herself to help her dad get through it. although maybe they should divide the work or something.
depressed or not, the bottom line is that he’s a shit parent. he couldve contacted the mum to let her know their kid wasnt living in the dorms anymore (bet marie called her). he couldve sat her down and told her to go back to the dorms and theyd have a proper discussion about everything later and reassured her that despite the separation they were still family.
instead he just lets her clean the house, cook him meals by herself. shes taken on the burden of looking after her dad. which isnt her responsibility. and the girl doesnt think of her dad as someone capable enough to to take care of himself which is why went home and now that her mum has left him, she sees first hand the aftermath which might make her resent her mum.
i just feel like the dads not the most responsible parent. no matter how shit you feel, as a parent your kid always has to come first.
I understand what you mean. But in that case the mom is shit too because she’s trying to take Minju after the divorce by force when the dad has done nothing wrong. I can understand why he wouldn’t contact the mom a bit if he’s never gonna see his daughter again. At the very least if he’s shit, then the mom is shit too. I personnality didn’t like it much when my mom tried to take me away. Plus, having a downside doesn’t make you shit straight away. Who knows, he might’ve been a super cool parent before the divorce? Minju again shouldn’t have to do this, but you can see she WANTS to do this. And she would probably continue even if her dad told her to stop. Unless there was abuse or anything, it’s called being grateful. I personally can empathize with Minju, and I think there’s difference between always has been a shit parent and then just having a moment when you are, but the only time for like 10 years. Sorry if I was rude
A child will always be happy to help a parent because you know validation unless the parent is abusive in whatever way. Currently, I am unable to recall where exactly her mother was shitty to her other than the ongoing communication issue between mother and daughter but we are not talking about her rn.
There is something called the lesser evil and her father fits in that analogy if her mother is the greater evil. Is her mother a shitty parent, yes might be even far more shitty than father but does that excuse father being a shitty parent? No, not at all even if he is less shitty, he is still shitty to some degree.
There are some major fuck ups by parents which should be held accountable like abusing a child or letting the child be an adult in a situation where they should be looked after because that is plain negligence of the child's feeling regarding the situation.
My problem with the whole situation is that minju's own feelings regarding the whole divorce were ignored by her father. Instead of going for "I am glad we are both there for each other", he only considered how appreciative he is because of her support for him.
No acknowledgement of the fact that the parent is not the ony one who goes through divorce trauma, the child has conflicting feelings about it too, the biggest issue being abandonment. The husband will lose a wife but a child will lose a parent and that feeling stick around if not given an opportunity to be out in open and dealt with.
P.s i am not questioning him living in the literal filth before minju came around for help. Have been through this at one point in my life and lived through that absolute filth too but as I said therapy.
P.p.s it is super shitty to discuss your marriage problems with your child. My mum did that, all my siblings have a damaged relationship with my father even though my parents reconciled before the actual divorce happened. And now that we are all full-grown adults we have realized it too late that my father was not the only one who was wrong in their divorce debacle. Adults shouldn't involve the children in the issue which should be sorted out between adults.
Nvm I read the recent chapter. Can see what you were talking about minju's mother but my opinion is still same about her father. Both parents be shit at communicating and clear disregard of minju's feeling. Kind of understable why minju is unable to comprehend other people getting upset with her action because she is same as her parents. Disregard of other's feeling regarding situation seems to be a family issue.
agreed, both parents are shitty rn. and the whole family has an issue with communication and lack consideration for others. but in this case i think the dad is worse than the mum. the mum was happy to let minju do her own thing in the dorms until she found out she was now living with her dad (and considering how pathetic he was, she probably didnt want her in that environment). and the dad doesn’t really seem to have any responsible traits. i dont think minju is helping him out of gratefulness, she seems like she’s doing it bc she believes that her dad isnt capable enough to look after himself. but thats just my opinion ig

I don’t think he forced responsibilities on his daughter. When she came home he was clearly surprised because he thought she would be in the dorms, probably because he didn’t want her to see him in such state. It’s sad that Minju has to do this, but coming out of a depressive state is not that easy, even for an adult. If so depression wouldn’t even be a thing. So don’t just go and say « he’s lazy » since I’m pretty sure he still didn’t give up, he still goes to work after all.