SPOILERS

MangaAnger9 May 1, 2021 4:34 pm

Copied and pasted from https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/kill-the-villainess.118265/page-14

So basically, All the 3 Mls are/were obsessed with Helena to the point where they would ignore her feelings and priorities their own. Helena, being the maid that she is cannot really do anything as she has no power, even when she regained her noble status it wasn't enough power to do what she wants. Even when ML forced her to marry her the marriage wasn't fruitful. Now that our Fl has reincarnated and shows no interest in the Imperial/noble family this intrigues all the Mls to want her. Something that they ignored and disregarded isn't showing the bit or interest or emotion as before?! What! No way!! type of stuff, gross. What self-centered, arrogant and dominant "mls" we have. It's too much to even call them that.

Fiance. doesn't like it when things he don't like don't show interest in him. Eris sudden turn in behaviour makes him intrigued. He wants her but she puts more distance

Jason. There's really not much about, once there is ill put it in here. It's hinted that he and the priest both killed Anakin

Priest. They say he's the craziest of them all. He is Eris half-brother from a dancer mother. He holds the power to bring a person back to life. In this case, tries to bring back Eris despite her wishes cause he loves her. He knows the souls are different but it's kind of weird since in that world they are related by blood.

Anakin. Only one who gets the concept of love and respect. He loves Eris enough to know the boundaries and assists her in her goals knowing that she wants to leave. Their feelings are obvious but they chose not to act on it. Perfect person to end her life as he, besides the witch, have loved and respected her in every which way.

Also when Eris stabbed Helena in the second time to kill her then went off it doesn't seem the Mls were too concerned about that because they wanted to make sure Eris was alive and "ok". They wanted to find Eris because they "loved" her (more like possess; object) even though they have no concept of love because that required understanding and respect (which they clearly don't have). Anakin burns her body to which crazy priest cannot resurrect her so both him and Jason kill Anakin. Helena is most likely dead at this point so now the trash Mls have no Eris and no Helena. Spoilers hint that anakin then meets Eris back in her real world.

I heard it was the Emperor who order the prince to rape her because she tried to break the engagement .The prince needed her family support to be king so he tried to rape the Mc but she fought back and killed the prince.
the witch end up reviving the prince but Mc still suffered from ptsd from the memory of attempted rape and murder that no longer happened.

Responses
    Eibon May 1, 2021 4:40 pm

    the mls are lunatic, except star wars boi

    maiii May 1, 2021 4:43 pm

    then... anahkin and fl’s love story is truly a tragic one in this lifetime...

    the crazy mls reminds me of beware of the villainess (that’s melissa’s manhwa right?), then the meeting in the after life reminds me of rae and noah (well as i remember. according to the spoilers i’ve seen before)

    MangaAnger9 May 1, 2021 4:57 pm
    then... anahkin and fl’s love story is truly a tragic one in this lifetime... the crazy mls reminds me of beware of the villainess (that’s melissa’s manhwa right?), then the meeting in the after life remi... maiii

    Queen Bitch Melissa is the only badass hardass who can destroys any Trash MLs ego/spirit. And let's not forget snob maid Yona ^^

    Before the release of BEWARE OF THE VILLAINESS there was already RACHEL from SLOW PRISON LIFE/The Villainess' Slow Prison Life Began With Her Broken Engagement.
    You will love her ^^

    maiii May 1, 2021 5:03 pm
    Queen Bitch Melissa is the only badass hardass who can destroys any Trash MLs ego/spirit. And let's not forget snob maid Yona ^^ Before the release of BEWARE OF THE VILLAINESS there was already RACHEL from SLOW... MangaAnger9

    yes i love queen bitch melissa and her partner in crime swagger yona ヾ(☆▽☆)

    oh i also really love slow prison life! tho there’s only promo with 3 or so chapters :(( she’s truly a baddie. i’m sure if she and melissa meet they’ll be bffs who would break the egos of these good for nothing bastards left and right

    MangaAnger9 May 1, 2021 5:19 pm
    yes i love queen bitch melissa and her partner in crime swagger yona ヾ(☆▽☆)oh i also really love slow prison life! tho there’s only promo with 3 or so chapters :(( she’s truly a baddie. i’m sure i... maiii

    Also add Cale the Trash Count and Bakarina and you have the perfect villainous dream team family^^

    The Villainous Siblings:
    The Cute Bakarina, The Psycho Sloth, the Lion Bitch and the careful Trash Count ^^
    FAN ART PLEASE!

    MangaAnger9 May 1, 2021 5:32 pm
    the mls are lunatic, except star wars boi Eibon

    Boundaries and Respect in Fantasy Romance Novel Stories is like finding/looking for a needle in a haystack.

    NeckSlice May 1, 2021 10:57 pm
    then... anahkin and fl’s love story is truly a tragic one in this lifetime... the crazy mls reminds me of beware of the villainess (that’s melissa’s manhwa right?), then the meeting in the after life remi... maiii

    Beware of the villainess takes on a more comedic approach tho, so it doesn't feel as heavy as this storyline

    lalilatulip May 1, 2021 11:23 pm

    I feel like all the ML in 'Villainess' story only interested with the villain because she no longer interested in him, not because they changed into different person, people could argue that the ML change because the Villain change but that's just BS, all those supposedly 'Villainess' are just being misunderstood and at worst only bully the heroine who cheated with their fiance/husband, just take a look at Abandoned Empress, she is not even a bad person, only bad at expressing herself, is it her fault that people misunderstand her even though she done literally nothing? Is people opinion of her also her responsibility? I read too many more stories with the same trope, the FL labeled as Villainess (mostly because she is angry that her fiance/husband cheated on her with the original heroine) then they reincarnated, regressed or whatever than vowed not to loved the ML anymore and plan the break up route, all of sudden the ML became obsessed with her and abandoned the original heroine.

    MangaAnger9 May 2, 2021 12:46 am
    I feel like all the ML in 'Villainess' story only interested with the villain because she no longer interested in him, not because they changed into different person, people could argue that the ML change becau... lalilatulip

    I also noticed this absurd logic in most transmigrated rewinded Villainess or Reincarnated ex lover, fiance or wife stories trope...

    She is suddenly not like other girls trope and automatically becomes everyone's target of hate, jealousy, conspiracies, obsession and toxic harem love.
    And THEN they all realize how beautiful, smart, dignified and so special she is...
    None of these FLs were plus sized (if they are fat, they need to become skinny fast) or are really "plain/ugly".

    You realize most isekai stories are oversactuared actually immature trash.
    You can see how long and stupid light novels titles are...
    Otaku NEETS being in sexist fantasy action world full of moe waifus.
    Innocent or loser pariah women in a sexist glamourous world full of shitty attractive powerful MLs.

    There is always the unappreciated Second Male Lead (Syndrome) and I am getting annoyed of the dark haired tyrant prince ML type who is naturally stronger, superior and multitalented than the FL who is supposed to be very powerful/competent.
    ( ̄へ ̄)
    Annoying Examples:
    The dark haired ML with a tragic background story given "godlike/cursed" power and being very feared + priveledged in "I tamed the tyrant and Ran away", "The Lady Wants to Rest, "The Villainess Reverses the Hourglass" and The Villain Daughter Enjoys Her Seventh Life as a Free-Spirited Bride (Hostage) in a Former Enemy Country. The FL whom we have seen her struggle and how she earned her power is easily bothered and undermined by the superior brooding tsundere ML...

    NeetyNayd v 2.0 May 2, 2021 3:18 am
    I feel like all the ML in 'Villainess' story only interested with the villain because she no longer interested in him, not because they changed into different person, people could argue that the ML change becau... lalilatulip

    This is on of the reasons I truly hate Abandoned Empress... It mocks the silent but hardworking people and values the " I am better than other girls" vibe to make the ML be interested in her..

    NeetyNayd v 2.0 May 2, 2021 3:18 am
    This is on of the reasons I truly hate Abandoned Empress... It mocks the silent but hardworking people and values the " I am better than other girls" vibe to make the ML be interested in her.. NeetyNayd v 2.0

    Yes.. Totally agree with you with the absurb logic of most isekai novels...

    lalilatulip May 2, 2021 1:51 pm
    This is on of the reasons I truly hate Abandoned Empress... It mocks the silent but hardworking people and values the " I am better than other girls" vibe to make the ML be interested in her.. NeetyNayd v 2.0

    IKR, as a quite introvert person myself, I feel so wronged. In the 'Family' theme Isekai manhwa like ''Who Made Me a Princess, 'I am The Real One', 'When the Villainess Loves', they have these absurd logic 'Nobody loves you if you are not lovely, cute, cheerful, bubbly'. I mean do you have to be an extrovert to be accepted and loved even by yir family?

    and there is even more absurd and sickening logic in those cheater ML who fall in love with the original heroine, then the fiancee/wife blinded by their jealousy call out the cheater and later got executed. The ML always crying out loud how they don't love her, how they are forced in the arranged marriage, how wicked she is but never even put a tiny bit of effort to break up or divorce her, it's only after he met the original heroine that he throw the divorce paper at her face, how fucked up is that. Cheating is inexcusable for whatever reason, if you don't love her or can't stand her, break up, it's unfair for the other person if you decide to break up only after you met your loved one.

    MangaAnger9 May 2, 2021 4:16 pm
    IKR, as a quite introvert person myself, I feel so wronged. In the 'Family' theme Isekai manhwa like ''Who Made Me a Princess, 'I am The Real One', 'When the Villainess Loves', they have these absurd logic 'Nob... lalilatulip

    I think the story "The Young Lady is A Royal Chef" will piss you very much off.
    The og host is the daughter of a dancer slave but when she was born she was separated from her mother and her mother was then killed when her womanizing polygamist father and (the grandfather) send her away.
    OG Host suffers under heavy mental illness and anger issues. She hates the dukedom and wants to leave for good. But they don't allow it. She was constantly being bullied and abused by the third young wife of her biological shit dad and her maids.
    Just because she was a threat for the high female kitchen chef position...
    The patriarchal male family members grandfather and her two older half-brothers looked down on her for being so gloomy, throwing tantrums and being useless. The biological father is absent and doesn't even bother.
    They don't even care that she tried several suicide attempts!
    After she finally succeed of taking her own life the MC takes over. OG Victim is quickly forgotten and never mentioned again and the MC who is more positive stronger, smarter, dignified, kinder, more smiley, charming, cute etc has a real talent for cooking that warms up the hearts of these patriarchal assholes who now appreciate and start loving her more with lots of affection and gifts.........

    BULLSHIT!TRASH!THEFUCK!THEHELLWITHIT!BOLLOCKS!MYASS! (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸

    MangaAnger9 May 2, 2021 4:24 pm
    I feel like all the ML in 'Villainess' story only interested with the villain because she no longer interested in him, not because they changed into different person, people could argue that the ML change becau... lalilatulip

    I really like the nuanced story, characters and logic of "The Pet Of The Villainess".

    The cheating spinneless spoiled dumb prince and his parents are clearly the villains.
    And the main characters develops through self-love, emancipation, (self-) empowerment, mutual respect and empathy.

    lalilatulip May 2, 2021 4:52 pm
    I think the story "The Young Lady is A Royal Chef" will piss you very much off.The og host is the daughter of a dancer slave but when she was born she was separated from her mother and her mother was then kille... MangaAnger9

    Haha, yeah I dropped that story, I'm pissed off at the one who possessed the body, she never gave any kind of tribute to the OG suffering and happily being lovey dovey with the thrash family. I even got an argument with the reader who blamed the OG host for not reaching out, for throwing tantrums, it isn't the family fault for not noticing since at that era people isn't aware of mental illness and blah blah blah blah.

    From all those who getting 'isekai-ed', I think Penelope from 'Death is the only ending for the villain' is the best, she sympathized with the OG cause she suffer the same shit, even though there is some brainwashing involved at the end, she doesn't whitewash them, she understand their circumstances but no matter what she is a person who get hurt too, she doesn't resent them but after all the shit she is been through is not like she can play happy family game like nothing ever happen, I can relate to that, she is not a saint but not evil either, just human.

    NeetyNayd v 2.0 May 2, 2021 7:18 pm
    I think the story "The Young Lady is A Royal Chef" will piss you very much off.The og host is the daughter of a dancer slave but when she was born she was separated from her mother and her mother was then kille... MangaAnger9

    THIS ONE!! AFTER I have learned what would happened... I immediately unread and do not want to touch it!! After 7 chapters of initially reading it

    The reincarnated MC is a bitch!! She has no regards to the OG and she actually have the audacity to mock the original owner and has no empathy when she took over her body... She just continued her life like!!! WTF!!!