Rooting for....

Totally agree.

As someone who is also 30, i kinda agree lol

Wait what do you mean older bro? They didnt even met yet properly? I hope you're not talking about the molester..

Yeah I’m seriously hoping the same thing. Idk who needs to hear this but please don’t settle for men who try to sexually assault you

As someone who has been sexually assaulted, been groped and harassed, and is getting certified as a relationship therapist, I can tell you that I don't condone molestation. Not ever. I feel very differently about it, however, when I'm reading a work of fiction. It's not real so it's easier to let it go.
As for the "molester guy" being the older bro; I think it's pretty obvious he is at this point. I would be very surprised if he wasn't. But, yes, that as who I meant.
As for their chemistry... they have it, it's there. and, from what I see, the older bro comes at/on to women but has never been taken seriously and has probably not done anything serious or with serious intent (not making excuses or condoning, just pointing out what seems to be apparent) so when the actual deed comes up or a woman approaches him directly, he gets embarrassed. This is backed up by the pants-pulling-down incident. He's probably no virgin and watches a ton of porn, but if the right person came along, he would be faithful, he would calm down and would get very serious. I have a feeling his lackadaisical behavior is a front to hide stress or to run away from something. It's not as typical as you'd think for someone to act that way just to be a jerk or touch a boob. Or, at least, not as an adult. In adolescents that's more common because they lack the ability to see consequences and, well, hormones can make you crazy.
In real life, certainly no one should be with someone who truly molests or assaults anyone else. And especially if that person is toxic on any level. They have to fix themselves before they can be with someone else. And they have to WANT to fix it. Otherwise any relationship they get into is moot.

I...uh okay I guess? Look, I'm not even gonna go there, you're totally free to think what you want, but I just went to check and you're wrong about him being the older brother.
Here, at the last page, we see his older brother, and he's very different from the molester guy. He dont even got the mole.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/promise_cinderella/hs/to_v-2-chapter-12/pg-1/

And here, at page 5, we see the ML (younger brother whoose name I forgot) call him "Seigo", when the molesters name is "Kurose". they ARE brothers, but he aint the one who you're thinking
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/promise_cinderella/hs/to_v-2-chapter-13/pg-1/

Hey, people can be wrong. To be perfectly honest, I completely forgot about that blip encounter and show of that guy in the car. Totally different hair too.
Honestly, though, Kurose hasn't done anything physical that can qualify him as a molester. He's tried to peek at FL's chest while changing, so he's a voyeur at most. So far. Also, FL says flat out, "I'm not even sure he was trying to molest me." That may seem naive, and she may be oblivious to emotions, but she is obviously not oblivious to the physical and her character is one that is portrayed as a "protector of the weak", sort of like a heroine. It would be very strange if she didn't realize she was going to be groped. Not so strange to not realize someone is hitting on her, but I highly doubt she would purposefully allow someone to take advantage of her. That shoulder throw was spectacular. Buuuuut, the manga seems fickle, so who knows.
Thanks for reminding me about the brother!

Girl stop. If you’re saying this shit and trying to professionally advise other victims you need to re evaluate yourself. He legit lured her to a secluded location and was trying to take advantage of her. Clear as day. Saying the stuff he said to a woman on her first day at a really big fancy expensive business is already a power imbalance as any woman might fear that making a fuss on the first day could jeopardize their job and he didn’t know her specific situation of how or why she was there. That is not hitting on somebody and if you hit on somebody that way you are WRONG and gross and need to change. It’s not appropriate or acceptable, especially at WORK. I’m all for mostly ambiguous, dub con, even non con, in works of fiction created at 18+ material because porn and smut is where you get to indulge in unhealthy dynamics knowing as an adult it is not acceptable for real life and is just porn. THIS IS NOT PORN. It’s a romance manga that anybody or any age would be allowed to buy. The rules are different. It’s shit like this and reading misogynistic manga as a young person does brainwash you, I would know, I had to do a lot of unlearning as an adult. Idc what anyone says. Fiction does effect reality and kids especially, adults too, use fictional characters and stories as role models.

This is not a good take and you aren’t taking the cultural context into account. Japan is 100% lax on harassing and assaulting women and continue to romanticize sexual harassment, misogyny, and gender stereotypes in real life and in fiction (which then just perpetuates real world beliefs). Knowing how Japan treats work place and street harassment of women is important to reading this work. They don’t see it as a real thing or a serious issue which is why they still make it the butt of jokes in their media and pop culture. Please watch any documentary on these issues in Japan and look into japanese #metoo stories people have graciously translated. We can not perpetuate these things as harmless or humorous because they lead to real people being affected and influenced. We owe it to each other to call out bs when we see bs. Is this kind of thing the end of the world? No. Would I report this man to police if I were this woman? Also no. Do I think I could eventually be friends with him in real life after shutting him down and working to educate and support him if he showed a willingness to grow and listen? Yes. But let’s not minimize or excuse this behavior just because it could be worse

It's a work of fiction and a cartoon. And its not minimized. He didn't do anything physical. Period. He tried to see her chest. That doesn't qualify as molestation. Also, understanding why someone acts a certain way does not minimize any wrongdoing they may commit. Also, I studied Japanese culture in college from a native Japanese. I know about the rampant sexual harassment. Its the same here in America. They like to sweep it under the rug, change your shifts so you limit your contact with that person, but the person who harasses you never gets severe consequences. I've been there, I know.
But the same as reading a novel, this is a work of fiction,its not real, no one is really getting hurt. It might cause triggering, and with that there should be a warning for sure, but there is no point in chastising a writer for a situation that isn't real. Its different to say you don't like a character, or their actions. Thats fine. Its not going to change anything and there isn't a reason to get so upset over something isn't real. The behavior is deplorable in real people. Its especially disgusting when women do it, I feel, but this is a story where people can turn over a permanent leaf at the drop of the hat, so really, why reprimand me for liking a character? If you want to talk about the real effects this behavior has on real life, sure, we can discuss that. But in the realm of fiction, its different.

Wow. I really wasnt going to meddle but still...girl. How can you actually say the phrase "that doesn't qualify as molestation" when being someone who was a unfortunate victim of sexual assault?? Like, I'm sorry but you're really out of place there. Thats not for you to decide. Can you imagine saying that same phrase to the face of a girl who just caught a creep eyeing her chest in a way that made her extremaly uncomfortable? If not then please dont say it here okay? Just because its fiction it doesn't make this okay. Fiction is not a lawless world, and reading things like this in a romance story as a young person can have a huge impact on you later on without even realizing it. Take care of yourself okay? We're all good

Because he wouldn't be convicted of molestation. He might be convicted of voyeurism, peeping. Im thinking in terms of law, not in people's personal feelings. He wouldn't be considered a molester. Technically, molestation oy applies to those 18 years or younger. Sexual assualt is different. He may have tried to do that, but didn't succeed, and he could certainly be convicted of attempt, but he is not a molester. What he did and/ortried to do does not fit the definition. That is what I'm trying to say.

Major typo in my comment. Had company. Sorry. For correction purposes: the word is supposed to be "only" not "oy" after molestation. Anyway. I really dislike when terms are used incorrectly. It's a very annoying type of OCD I have that makes me need to correct others when terms are used wrongfully. I try to curb it, but I sometimes find I cannot. But "molester" and "molestation" are not the correct terms. Thats the issue I have. "Predator", "sexual assualt" or "sexual harrassment" is what are correct. If that offends you or annoys you, I am sorry for that. Correct is correct, however.

So were you studying law or therapy? Because like the other person said, what you just said is NOT going to help anybody. It’s definitely not what a victim of harassment, assault, and voyeurism needs to hear. It’s completely invalidating! Peeping isn’t exactly legal either. And your point of view as a counselor or therapist or whatever is not to tell somebody that they shouldn’t feel violated because something wasn’t technically illegal. Raping or beating your wife wasnt illegal in the past, not even the distant past either, and yet it seems obvious today how wrong and criminal it is. Measuring morality by the legal definitions of violating another person is not a therapists line of work.

And correct about almost everything in this thread is what you have not been lmao. You’re really digging yourself in a hole. Clearly you have an ego and don’t want to be wrong because u seem to think you’re some sort of authority over morality and law but even a kid can see how awkward rude and insensitive you’ve been

Did you even read my comment? Fiction shapes how we feel and what we believe. People use fictional stories and characters as models for real life. Seeing sexual harassment and being disrespectful and perverted towards an i consenting person can minimize that act and normalize it in a readers eyes. That’s how fiction impacts reality. People use media to understand the real world, whether you like that fact or not. Kids and adults alike do this. They validate or invalidate themselves based on scenarios they see on tv or read in books or cartoons or comics. That’s life. And that’s why it’s dangerous. When you perpetuate harmful ideology and behavior in media, it’s bad and dangerous and it affects the way real people act, treat others, and how the let themselves be treated.

Thats not what I said. Don't put words in mouth mouth or try to read between lines for assumptions that aren't true and are not there. Also, studying to be a licensed therapist requires the study of some law, yes. I never have and never will have a debate on semantics with a client/patient. I also clearly stated that there is a difference between being molested and being sexually assaulted, where Kurose falls in this and that i had issue with them calling him a molester. I never said he didn't do anything wrong. You either did not read the full of what I wrote, or you were too clouded by the irritation of something I said that you didn't register either the actual meaning or you glossed over what was written. I normally say what I mean, unless an metaphor suffices better. I rarely say something to have someone read between the lines for the answer. Also, although general psychology is required, I am looking to be a relationship therapist, not a general practitioner. Regardless of that, I would never invalidate anyone's feelings and I have not here. Telling someone they're using an incorrect term is not the invalidation of their feelings. Another thing, I did not bring up, nor does my original comment have anything to do with secual assault or molestation. I merely stated that I feel she has more chemistry with the older man (who i incorrectly assumed was the brother of the ML because I forgot about the glimpse we got of him). I never said that anything anyone has gone through is invalidated because it can't be legally charged with something. I said that it bothers me when people use incorrect terms. I also went on to say that he would be more appropriately named as a "predator", not a "molester ". There is no invalidation in that. It is not okay to accuse someone of something they're not or didn't do. When you go and read a comment, make sure you take it at face value, dont look for meanings that aren't there, don't put words into people's mouth and do not accuse someone of something that wasn't said or even implied.

Nobody is putting words in your mouth, just pointing out your pointless bs. Literally nobody cares like you think they do. Nobody is losing sleep over you. With your stubborn need to be right and to stroke your own ego maybe you should become a lawyer instead lol

Please morally chastise me in your reply

It is only dangerous if you cannot separate foction from reality. People develop behaviors, conplexes and trauma from the people they interact with. When you are a very young child, tv, fiction and such can have lasting effects, yes. Between the ages of 8-10 you develop a sense of reality and can start to discern reality from fiction, lies from truth. Books, video games, movies and culture can be good escapes and hobbies from things going on in life. I used books and writing heavily to escape a lot of trauma as a child. If, however, those shape you in such a way or trigger you in such a way that you can no longer see what is real and what is fake (for example, that it didn't actually happen or that it's not the world you live in) then there is an underlying issue that needs to be looked at and dealt with. I completely agree that warnings should be in place for content that may have triggering content, or in anything that has potentially triggering content that can be harmful to the psyche of those with trauma and mental illness. But the media, video games, music, works or fiction and art in general do not and cannot make anyone do anything. If you are an adult, you are in control of your actions and are subject to the consequences of those actions, be they positive or negative. You can be influenced, yes, but ultimately, everything anyone does is their choice. Now, If someone goes into a fit of uncontrollable behavior (violent or otherwise) because of something they heard, saw or read, then there is something else wrong, some underlying issue they may not even be aware of themselves that caused that. Mental illness, addiction and other such problems is becoming far more rampant than it ever should and there is little to combat it. In fact, not much is actually being done to help those who need trigger warnings. But your behavior, your beliefs, your treatment of others and yourself stems from your interactions (or lack thereof) between yourself and your parents, your peers, friends, family and culture you are raised in. What normalizes abusive behavior is being around abusive people or seeing abuse and allowing yourself to believe its normal. Probably because that is your norm. Fiction does not do this. It can desensitize, in the same way nudity in films is rather normal now when it didn't used to be 15-20 years ago. It does not impact your reality, as in the thought that "it didn't happen to me; it didn't happen at all; this is not real". If it does, that is could be a serious problem that requires help.