keep your rapist mentality to yourself

period! unless the character has set certain boundaries with their partner and are okay with them «abusing them» like in the manhwa Legs that won’t walk, i don’t want to see anyone justifying sexual/mental violence

Y’all haven’t been reading long. This is a classic trope in BL regardless of where it originates (Japan, China, Korea, etc.) Your feelings are valid and I do understand completely. This happens in fluffy or psychological too. Any time the uke says no, for whatever reason, and is pushed into saying yes or taken by force it is considered rape. Doesn’t matter if the mangaka draws it funny or not. So please don’t get it twisted. It’s all rape unless there is consent.

Legs Don’t Walk, that began as rape too.

i hope i speak for some of us here when i say that we know that this is a pretty classic trope in bl, its just unfortuante that its been normalized to begin with. rlly feels like some authors and readers fetishize rape

I think it’s the readers because reading some of the after notes written by the mangakas, some of them have issue with this type of trope. My thing is, most people complaining with normalize the fluffy non-consensual sex (rape) and flat out rant about the obvious rape. Because it is masked in comedy or the seme says “I love you and this is why I’m still trying to have sex with you even after you said no 50 million times” they don’t see that as rape. Any time anyone says no, in any circumstance, it all must stop. Doesn’t matter if someone is asking for a pencil. No means no.

The lines are blurred because most people don’t know how to respect any boundaries. As for the manga, if you know that this is a classic trope, then no one should have an issue. Better yet, just stop reading it altogether. Read manga about characters that don’t have that toxic trope as the way to establish the main couple. There are plenty of ways to avoid reading manga that are considered toxic to some people. But many think that they are entitled to certain things that are beyond their control and become keyboard warriors and attack those who have nothing to do with the content. Instead they should contact the publishing companies to change the way they advertise their titles they put out. Just like they have advisory warnings on CDs and digital music for explicit language, they should have those same type of warnings for manga too.

Know where the ACTUAL hate should go. Don’t fuck with the uploader because they didn’t inform you. I’m not affiliated with the group but I see these comments a lot and it’s tiring.

I've been reading manga for nearly two decades now, I'm very familiar with the tropes. It's rampant, and frustrating coming across so many, especially in those Chinese "marry-a-CEO" stories. Even worst how it's never properly addressed in their relationship, unless it's done or almost done by a non-ML character. Does no one realizes that the same words and abuse happen during those "initimate" moments with the ML but because they are handsome, rich, domineering and gained a bit of affection from the MC, it's suddenly okay..?
I'm not here for that shit and I will never condone that behaviour. And yet! I keep hoping that at least ONE story will illustrate a realistic and progressive conversation around this topic. Set some damn boundaries, so that young readers won't mistake this bullshit as romantic and gain some insight on what to do during these situations (which I hope they never have to deal with).

Don’t get angry at me. Get angry at the publishers for pushing that type of stuff. I’m tired too but griping here isn’t going to change anything. It hasn’t changed in the 2 decades you’ve been reading manga. Gripe to the people who can make the difference and stop reading yaoi manga if you’re tired of it. Bye Felicia.

Plus, it is not the duty of the uploader to put warnings up. It’s up to the publishers. All of this is a courtesy, the translation of the manga included.

literally the only manhwa i’ve seen any kind of retribution to rape is Crash into me like the rapist actually got jail time and the victim was aloud time to heal and his partner tried to make him as comfortable as possible

Not exactly sure why people feel like I'm attacking them when I'm literally just responding to their comments and stating my opinions.... how bizarre.

Guess I have to make this DISCLAIMER:
My gripe with these manga have nothing to do with the uploaders, nor have I ever stated that they were. I don't care if the uploader posts offensive content or tags "rape" or not, that's not their job or obligation! And, I'm sincerely grateful that they took the time and effort to share these stories with us.

Please focus on the main point of my first statement, which is the sarcasm in the translator notes geared towards attacking those who'd rather not see rape portrayed as romantic or an "awkward start" to a relationship.

People are allowed to complain. The uploaders are allowed to complain about the backlash towards their hard work, just like we allowed to complain and discuss, like we are now, about offensive content.. mkay??