Kinda agreed
imo i wouldn’t say their relationship is toxic, just full of misunderstandings. more common that youd think even in modern marriages. i think a lot could be resolved by talking.........and ideally a marriage counselling lol. and i dont think the child is ever used as a mean to get back together either, since their relationship to their child is part of the core problem in their marriage.
I disagree. Even if he is/was very distant, he shows her a lot respect, especially considering her past behaviour. The way she can just sit in his lap tells a lot about their relationship. Just bc they're not lovey-dovey doesn't mean there's no affection.
Their fight was toxic as hell he ignored how she said she wanted to die and focused on “best choice”
Respect doesn’t excuse everything they both have done, without talking it out respect means nothing
ive explained in a previous post how i think he was never a bad husband (though not the best), nor was he ever neglectful. tl;dr neither of them is in the wrong.
Tbh I cant blame Harsen entirely. At the very least, I don’t think he was being neglectful either. He’s tried several times to understand Ercella’s struggle, and tried to make her feel better, albeit his solution only seems like sweeping the issue under the rug.
He was the busiest during Ercella’s hardest time, what’s with his father’s death and the call to the frontline. He failed to understand her struggle not because his effort may be lacking, but because Ercella didn’t understand what was going on with her either. She couldn’t really pinpoint what was wrong with her, and this is the thing if you’re not familiar with depression. She probably thought, at the time, she was just feeling sad for no reason. And such thing was hard to explain to the people around you. If Ercella herself cannot understand her situation, how could Harsen? When you don’t know what to do, it’s actually really hard to be around someone mentally ill. Because no matter what you do, they’re just not getting better. It’s really, really disheartening. You started thinking if it was your fault. If Ercella wouldnt be like this had she not married him, especially given that in his mind, he was merely the “best choice” to her. Hard not to get affected. He also has feelings. We dont know his mental state either.
And not to excuse his parenthood, but such teaching is probably common at the time. The perfect way to raise a child is to perfectly prepare them for society, and perhaps that was how he was raised so he did not know any better. All said and done, it does not erase the hurt and damage thats been caused to the child, but at the very least he was never ill intentioned.
i just copy pasted my post from another thread so some things may be irrelevant. but yeah.
Agree with everything you said
nah bestie thats not a toxic fight thats a realistic one...long time married partners fight like that in real life- this manhwa is too real i swear
Normal marriages consist of spending time together and talking things out instead of barley talking to eachother and seeing each others faces. If you think their marriage is normal or healthy rethink
what ur talking abt is manhwa’s fairytale marriage man, try take a look at long time married partners around u irl
didnt say it was healthy tho lol, but its realistic marriage argument
My statement still stands? Some People don’t belong together
Honestly the relationship between her and her husband is basically irredeemable, realistically speaking. It might sound romantic to try to salvage this toxic relationship but it’s just too much to use their child as a means to get back at one another( or in this case the father overworking the child) some people may love eachother but are not meant to be