yes it is nice that the author added those three years because that is rare, and i agree that the character development was better than in most BLs but...you all talk about those three years like during that time they went from one universe to another. i have been saying from the start that haesoo needs a break from all of them, but he does it at the very end when everything is pretty much resolved. for him, those three years might have been productive, he travelled, did other things...but for me haesoo seemed to have realized his feelings way before (which i doubt would've happened if it wasn't for someone like taku - a relationship which didn't end up like all his previous ones) and he confirmed them at the night of the accident. so why take three years? maybe it was to further confirm his feelings but to me it is more likely because he was tired of everything. and then he goes back and continues the same as before lol...
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joowon on the other hand, went on a hiatus and i doubt that he focused on anything other than waiting for haesoo...he is still as possessive and obsessive as he was...he even says that he wouldn't let haesoo go if he knew it was going to be three years, he lied about that shoot, haesoo actually says that joowon hasn't changed (all in ch.100). so let's remind ourselves how he treated haesoo as a possession in the past, and how he realized his feeling only after haesoo was taken away from him. childish imo, and if he hasn't changed for the better now, that's already a red flag.
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so while i think that it's great that the author added those three years, from that glimpse of their present relationship i don't see much change. they still have a long way to go, which the author has indicated by saying that they might break up etc. but breaking up and coming back together ever so often...it sounds like a tiring relationship. plus, they will need to hide, and they can never be 'classified' as a couple outside those 4 walls. but if that's what they want, good for them. it's just that from what i've seen in these 106 chapters (some good memories as children-which is why i say they live in the past, bickering, pointless sex, hurting A LOT) i don't think it's worth it. they fight so much for something they have never even experienced (i admit that it is because of their parents, careers etc.) so how can they, and we, be so sure that their relationship will be any good.
i think it would've been less mature to lie and say that he wishes him happiness...and i don't blame him for saying that, he just got dumped, and had his first heartbreak ever. i don't think anybody could just smile seconds after that. it's haesoo's answer (that he wishes him happiness) that hurts more, because it sounds more like a goodbye and shows how little he cares about him.
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to me taku was mature in the way he moved on. he realized that he got hurt while playing with something he shouldn't have (that scene with the candy bowl falling and breaking kinda depicted that). he went into that relationship out of curiosity, experienced some things which he hadn't until then, and when he saw everything was pointless, he gave up and moved on.
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that whole deal was weird, i admit, but it's not like haesoo couldn't explicitly say no. but in the end, it helped him realize his feelings and taku got some experience, so it might've been worth it after all. i'm not saying taku's an angel but out of the three of them, his character development is best imo, even though less attention was given to him than to the other two
Well i completely agree with you and i love when an extreme character get changed and develop to a better one, definitely taku is manipulative but really who isn't in this manga really every one of them are, and after all this still generally i just don't feel comfortable and just to remind you i couldn't bear to read the brothers last chapter and their development so no saying in that from me, i just personally didn't clicked with those two
I read it and agree with it but every one was more or less, excessively was manipulative in this story so I'm not excluding taku for this behaviour and i like his character growth more then the others
Taku was definitely the most mature!!! he was honest about his feelings and that is one of the most mature things someone can do. im an aro guy. i’ve been in 2 relationships my whole life and i loved both of my partners a lot, in one of my relationships the girl i was with went back to her ex (i was the rebound lolol) and i really did hope that she wasn’t happy, so that of course she’d realize she was happier with me. I think the fact Taku was able to even admit that it’s extremely mature of him.
i totally agree 100% i think Taku was a character that was just added in to be a foil for Haesoo or Jowoon (not completely sure which one yet) and he definitely had anticipated that Haesoo wouldn’t choose him, but that was also before he realized he loved him :p
i think people are forgetting that stories will be taken into many different perspectives based on the reader. you all can continue to state your opinions and repeat what the author said but it won’t change the fact that everyone looks at things in different perspectives :p
what do you mean you like how people like to label what’s love and what isn’t? nobody is going to have one set perspective on things, especially on something such as the wiiide spectrum like love. i don’t see their relationship as toxic towards the end, i see it as two people who need to give themselves a REAL chance to move on. you bring up how they spent the 3 years apart but they were solely focused on each other, not even giving themselves a chance to try something new.
Why trying something else, when they both love each other, their relationship is healthy, and heasoo tried with T and it didn’t work, that’s doesn’t make sense to try something else at this point
i completely agree and with this i'm muting this thread because i've already wasted enough time on this anyway BTS Butter comes out on May 21 so yall tune in for the premiere at 1pm kst
Yes perspectives can be different but in the end interpretation should be based on the evidences, you have to find a way to support it. Otherwise it just looks farfetched.
Hmm you said their feelings didn't look like love and I'm just asking who are we to decide if it's love or it isn't. Imo it was a good and rathe realistic portrayal of a love which survived different adversities.
But they literally tried for many years with different partners, there was time between their parents' separation and when they've met each other again, Haesoo was with Taku in exclusive relationship... but he still kept loving Joowon. Even when he was on his own for three years he kept loving Joowon so what's the point of another fruitless relationship? When he thought Joowon was about to die/be hurt in the accident he thought as if his world was breaking. One of the points of the story is that although their relationship faces many obstacles, although many years passed and they've experienced many different situations, met different people, they've still kept loving each other.
At first Taki saw Haesoo as a candy, something intriguing. He wasn't honest with him at the begining at all. He didn't tell him about coming back to Japan etc. Yes he was clear about his feelings and it's brave of him but still although Haesoo emphasized he is not ready, Taku kept pushing and asking for the answer....which isn't so mature on the other hand. Although it was clear to Taku that Haesoo is trying but can't put his whole heart into their relationship, he didn't come up with the break up. Only when Haesoo himself appeared in front of him to break things off, he did it. Meanwhile guilt tripping Haesoo a little bit.
Taku is definitely an interesting character but he is just as flawed as the others. He definitely matured in the end, he apologized Haesoo and moved on which is great for his character. The relationship with Haesoo helped him value his partner and think more about him and not only about his own "selfish" feelings.
Tbh I don't feel that Joowon was per se extreme. He is definitely a flawed guy, who was a times too immature, jealous etc but both he and Haesoo kept hurting each other. And both of them crazily loved, cared about each other. The real contradiction.
And in comparison to many,famous BL MLs he looks like a pretty normal, although flawed guy.
wait taku fell in love with heasoo because of his feelings for joowon? i did a quick read of this so don’t hate me
It’s more complicated than that but yes
sigh, this is going to be a long comment
i had to stop reading this at some point because it was literally giving me a headache, but now i've finally finished it so i wanna write my little amateur review, which is completely biased because i was always team taku.
this webtoon is so toxic that it's theme song should be toxic by britney, and while i don't necessarily hate the ending (there's some good things, i'll get to it later) i had to skip all the lovey-dovey sex scenes at the end because they were so unsatisfying to me and i realized that i just don't care about the two of them?
the artstyle is beautiful, the story is told beautifully (like, the way it began and ended the same way, with haesoo's interview - that was brilliant and i love stories which kinda end and begin the same but in the end nothing remained the same and the characters went through a major change), it's just that the story sucks unless you really enjoy toxic relationships. and that's all haesoo and joowon's relationship was and is...it began by literally breaking their parents' marriage, but i guess we all gon' forget about that? they both suffered so much, and broke so many people on their way to just end up together again? maybe just maybe more mature and honest with themselves but i doubt that...one sex scene doesn't mean it's all good now. they'll have to hide forever and be tense all the time because everybody knows they have been brothers at some point, and don't tell me that the public wouldn't freak out if it found out, and that their careers wouldn't suffer.
they'll be stuck in that little circle of theirs where they'll continue to "love" and hurt each other, and honestly, i think they both need therapy.
now taku...poor guy, he really didn't deserve all that and i feel like in this whole webtoon he was only a tool used for haesoo and joowon to realize what the fuck they actually want.
BUT i think something good came out of that whole experience with the toxic brothers anyway. he went through probably his first real heartbreak which helped him realize where he belonged, and maybe he finally let himself be honest with himself (when that friend told him she never saw him like that, that was probably the first time he seemed the most human in his life). he also became more famous and moved on, like a normal, healthy person.
so maybe both sides got something out of that whole experience, but while the bros got together, i think they won't last long and the real winner here is taku lol