about raws

especially when it doesn't make any sense and isextremely biased lmfao

LMAO comprehension skills found ded in a ditch go look for them

what cain stans mean when they compare him to yahwi is that we have one absolutely shitty abusive douchebag and one not that shitty but a bit obsessive and shady guy so they'll obviously prefer the latter. majority of the yahwi stans are the ones that act like his sob story justifies all his bs

That's not the point. Whenever we call out Cain, y'all always bring up Yahwi to excuse Cain's behaviors. Even if Yahwi were to become the worst person on earth, it still doesn't justify Cain's malicious actions. You cannot say it's better just because other people did worse. I'm not even defending Yahwi, it's just ironic how you guys always slander him but very quiet when it comes to Cain's wrongdoings--and worse even praise him as if he's innocent. No matter how much Cain invade Jooin's personal space and privacy, y'all call it cute and romantic. When he assaulted Jooin, y'all cheered him for being Jooin's first kiss despite him being so sick he couldn't even give a consent. Isn't it ironic that you hate Yahwi for taking advantage on Jooin but says otherwise when it comes to Cain? That's what we meant by double standards. You are biased.

100% agree with everything, but they probably not ready for this discussion

We see his development we just thinks it medicore. He just doing the bare medium, for me I need see much more than what he doing now. And we know Cain isn't all innocent but he sure is much better than Yahwi currently because he still knows his boundaries & mistakes. And your literally contradicting yourself because Yahwi himself is also pushy & creepy as well in the first season.

cain knows his boundaries and mistakes? lmaooo u missed some parts apparently. The huge difference is that here cain and jooin atm has literally NOTHING going on between them, they friends, still Cain acts like a beast in heat 24/7

Yea unlike someone one, he knows when to stop & acknowledged he messed up. And it looks like we ain't reading the same story, it's funny how yall dismiss the relationship between Cain & Jooin, romantic or not there is a small bond between them & Cain could be important to Jooin still even if he isn't the one jooin end up with.

Cain so good at acknowledging he messed up that one moment he “apologize” too jooin for the kiss and two minutes later he corners him to the wall trying to do the same without any vocal consent, but okay stay delusional. I didn’t dismiss anything, u can’t read, I said they supposed to be friends, there was no vocal agreement to take their relationship to another step, i don’t see where cain “knows where to stop” considering he’s always there touching, grabbing, sniffing, pulling and trying to kiss jooin at any good occasion

yo can i get the raws

also yahwi is literally dragging people around idk how hating cain for being clingy and liking yahwi at the same time is supposed to make sense. i don't remember jooin telling yahwi it's okay to have sex with him when he's drunk and defenseless nor giving consent for most of his other bs. cain isn't as innocent as he seems (he's even purposely drawn to look sus at times so i know there's a lot of drama on the way) but the stuff he's done are things a lot of people could overlook even if yahwi was the one doing them if he wasn't being an abusive asshole already (like giving him medicine when he's sick, sniffing him or trying to kiss him) it seems more like double standarts to me that yall try to excuse your 'poor bby' yahwi for having a sob story while cain is called sus or creepy. just say you don't like blondes and go

the way u literally didn’t understand anything I said until now. I gonna just copy/paste a reply I gave to another person here cause I’m tired to talk to the wall anyway.

“ the morality card is always played with yahwi only, cain should be judged for his own actions too, not only relating everything he does with what yahwi did. He may have not r*ped jooin, but he still took advantage of him while he was sick and unconscious to kiss him, he still gives him little to no personal space, he still sniff him even while he’s asleep, he still touches jooin and lean on him at every possible occasion without a verbal consent from the other side. I don’t care if it’s not as serious as r*pe, it’s still wrong. But he gets called pure, cute, romantic, bold. If it was yahwi doing half of this actions the reaction from the public would be completely opposite.
Also I believe in characters redemption (in fiction), yahwi is slowly showing his character development, so it’s laughable how every effort he makes is just washed off in order to find the dirt in him, meanwhile everything cain does, good of bad, is sweet and cute”

my god, i'm literally explaining the reason why the fandom treats cain and yahwi differently. "cain isn't as innocent as he seems (he's even purposely drawn to look sus at times so i know there's a lot of drama on the way) but the stuff he's done are things a lot of people could overlook even if yahwi was the one doing them if he wasn't being an abusive asshole already" when cain does creepy things it's easy to look past it cause he hasn't hurt jooin physically or mentally so far, it's just him being creepy. i haven't seen the raws since you ignored me just to call me a brick wall so i don't really know the exact circumstances of the noncon kiss though. is cain doing a lot of things wrong? absolutely. is it so bad that it makes him irredeemable? not really.

if yahwi was the one doing it obviously people would react differently cause he'd just be adding to a pile of toxic shit he's done before. i remember there being a lot more yahwi stans when i first picked it up but people don't think he's redeemable anymore. like, let's say this dude cheated on you several times, even if he becomes an angel overnight there's no way you'd be able to fully forgive him. that's why people don't look forward to his 'development' and the author's efforts to justify his behaviour seems unnatural. also what 'effort' lol blaming jooin for being unpredictable and not understanding how much he loves him sounds more like victim blaming and self victimizing to me rather than an effort to get better. in conclusion yes, cain is toxic, people are relatively more forgiving towards him and it's not exactly right but as long as yahwi is there it's only natural.

do you wanna keep arguing about what some pixels do to each other or...?

u know you’re the one who replied under my comment to argue about pixels right?

welp i don't mind sharing opinions but it's getting repetitive

How embarrassing, you're just condirecting yourself now with what you're saying

sure jan, go on with your biasing :)

Dude. People go to lengths to explain why they don't "shit on him for just breathing" and why his behaviour was literally the most problematic.

Exactly and all they're saying is that it's because of biasing & double standards, lol they make no sense