Y’all they basically get a happy ending. They are already old when they meet again I don...

They may be “shitty people” with wrong morals but they are not “shitty character”. In fact, they are two of the best written characters i have ever came across in yaoi ( and manga in general). Both complex, morally wrong, passionate, insane. So you don’t have to like them as a character, but the reason you dislike them is because they are such a GOOD written character.

I find this ending wonderful, not only cause i ship them but mostly cause it suit them. When we come to the bottom line: Rogi only cares for Tora ( and himself) and Tora only care for Rogi ( and himself) . Let them be happy together after all the Things they went trough

I never said that I hated them, I just hate the stuff they did like how rogi raped tora son and how bad of a husband tora was to the wife cause I feel bad for. They are good written characters and I’m glad they have a happy ending I’m just saying their shitty character cause of the stuff they did

I like the characters very much I just hate the stuff they did

I understand what you mean, but when you choose the word ‘Character’ you refer not to the personality and action but to the writing of it. So basically- shitty humans great characters.

"When we come to the bottom line: Rogi only cares for Tora ( and himself) and Tora only care for Rogi ( and himself) ." THIS

People hate them because they can't accept that. These two only care about themselves and each other which is why they are both shitty and also a match made in heaven.

Yes! I mean that is the point of the story- how meeting each other completely changed their life . Beside i don’t really understand the need for “moral” and ethics when it comes to fiction.. i mean he killed a man with his bare hands and what bothers people is him cheating on his wife . I understand them, it is okay not to like them but it is a story about Yakuza, not heaven gates

I feel you! Fujoshi logic is beyond me...

Lol yes

BLESS U

"Both COMPLEX, MORALLY WRONG, PASSIONATE, INSANE"

So according to you as long as characters are ....., Morally wrong,....., Insane, they're great and best written?

What if a character is- both complex, Morally Right, passionate and sane... Would it be a worst written character or an unlikeable one?

I wasn’t speaking in general ( don’t know where you got that from) i was speaking about Rogi and Tora alone, saying that they may be Bad people but not bad characters . If you want i can give you countless examples for Bad character both- by their writing and their personality

Ohh okay

THEY DONT DESERVE A HAPPY ENDING!!!!

They do

NO THEY DONT

i agree with you but ig we have to wait for future volumes. they at least get some form of retribution (or at least become more aware of their actions tbh my bar is so low after reading so many bls) esp when rogi raped the poor boy in yoidaime, tbh i wouldnt mind

*if they get retribution (pls excuse me)

......no rapist deserves a happy ending what tf are you talking about? Ewww talk less please

What?

If you can't separate fiction from reality stop reading, especially this manga. I don't care about your opinion and the author doesn't deserve your hate.
Those characters are fictional. They are not real.

And I want to say this: Rogi is well written /here/. To me, in yondaime, is written a little bit messy. I know this story actually is about him and the other one not, but his personality in yondaime is "flat"...
Here, even if he makes a lot of mistakes and he is young, is written sooo well, full of emotion, childish thought and sensation.