Duroa you b*tch, you ruined this for me

Maybe the expectation that a woman is to fix a man with issues isn't a good one? This story was obviously one of the ones where the fl is just trying to survive.

Also, he did magic on her to manipulate her - would you not consider that to be a betrayal? And in the original novel, he caused her death.

I though that "death = bad" is a common goal shared by most humans.

I never implied a "woman" should fix a man's issues. I just said a normal HUMAN would try and help a person who she knows will have hardships and eventually turn evil if they had the chance. They met when they were very young, and even at that point, she looked for evil or an underhanded cause in his actions. "He caused her death in the novel" is not an excuse to demonize someone who hadn't done anything yet.
But that's exactly what she did. She has always thought he was evil and would hurt and manipulate everyone around him so why is she so surprised or betrayed now that she knows he has, I asked. And damn she has the audacity to talk about friendship, I said.

Guess you misunderstand but I'm obviously not trying to justify ml's actions. Just hate how the fl sees things.

Also yeah fam death is bad??? For all humans :) Including me :)
Let's not act cheeky, people are here to have a good time.

"Normally, you would expect fl to try to change the future of the ml, or at least have some kind of attachment to him after all the years they grew up together, right? "
You did.

Him causing her death in the novel is a reasonable reason to be wary especially when you find out that the story has been following the novel far more closely than you expected. On top of that, from her point of view, he would have killed her 2 friends recently if the timeline wasn't changed. You use very close language e.g. "demonize", you do know that she is keeping her distance. No, she didn't always think he was evil - when did you read this story? She thought he was the ML (chapter 1, page 6), not the villain. She did not remember the story well untill she drank that potion that made her pass out.

... you can't really criticize the point of view of a character when you don't seem to be remembering the story correctly.

You call that cheeky, but in reality, my statement was simply pointing at the fact that the character's main goal is not to die (and yet you act as though that's not the case.) Personally what I view to be cheeky is when people speak about things they know very little about ;)

I agreeeee. Plus the “fixing” part had nothing to do with gender, they were kids. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees how nasty she is.

Okay, read what you quote again. Stress is on the " after all the years they grew up together" part. You totally missed my point here. I said fl and ml because it's what they are. Not because of their gender.

And yes, while she wasn't always this wary of Nocturne, she has always suspected him of being a villain. And that's fine because as you persistently (lol) pointed out, she is facing death. I did start reading the story since the first chapter came out so ofc my memory of her isn't perfect but I do remember enough to know one thing; she thought very little of him. Both as a person of possible growth for better and as a friend.

I will also point out, persistently, that what I am not talking about how she's trying not to die or anything. I just said that I don't like how she's behaving like the way she is with the way things have been for them. I don't like characters that "juggle" their weird ways around death in isekai stories. You say that story followed the original very closely but even with my dulled memory, I remember several occurances where she could realize that she, in fact, can meddle with the story. Also, how could she not? She's changing it so thats she doesn't die. She could've as well tried doing more for Nocturne if she was gonna confront him about being friends later.

I am not going to elaborate on how I don't like her behaviour because;

1. Like you said, I don't remember what happened as far as in 1st chapter 6th page lol. I have read the whole story and this is what I've felt from Duroa all the time.
2. I don't have to. I honestly wrote nothing offensive or anything. (So please miss me with that "you're gender stereotyping" shit) I just wrote my own personal idea and that's that. If you don't like it, PLEASE just downvote and get by with your day.

Ps. Really? "Things they don't know very well about"? Sis, I don't have time to re-read a story just to comment what I've been feeling since day 1. It's just a comment on a manhwa, we're not writing a fucking thesis. It's not that deep...

Yeahh, Idk why people always try to read into stuff and call people out for something they didn't even slightly imply.
They were kids and innocent. I also think Duroa managed her cards in the worst way possible.

Yeah, that doesn't matter when you said ". Normally, you would expect fl to try to change the future of the ml." You said it, you gendered it and you even said "normally" and "expect."

She didn't suspect him of being a villain... you obviously don't remember the story so please don't act as you do.

" You say that story followed the original very closely ...She could've as well tried doing more for Nocturne if she was gonna confront him about being friends later."
...she thought that she avoided the events of the original story. She attempted to meddle with the story to avoid her death from chapter one. And what could she have done when she literally only thought that he was the male lead. She had no plan to confront him.

You don't remember the story (it's insanely obvious.) The reasonable thing is not to pass judgment but to either refresh your memory or to stay quiet.

You don't have the time to read but you sure can write essays where you present yourself as a fool. Take your own advice (2.)

Yeah ok the great warrior of gender equality, you're the superior being who defends the rights of women, the rest of us are just blabbering idiots who think women should exist to fix men. Not only that, you are also the master of this story. Are you happy now? You're the one who's making a fool of yourself. Stop reading into stuff and twisting people's words.

You seemed to be not getting my point so I tried to explain my point after the effort you put in your own comment, accusing me of weird shit in the process. So ofc I had to respond :) It took me like a minute to write that, I have that much time don't worry. (⌒▽⌒) You, on the other hand seem to have too much of it since you get so pressed about a random comment. I rested my case and you did yours, you don't like mine? Too bad. :(

I don't have to remember every single detail and line to think Duroa is annoying. It's not a one chapter thing, I've been annoyed by her since the beginning. Take it with a grain of salt, people are free to have opinions and this is a manhwa, you may see characters differently from me. You ofc also have that freedom too but I wish you used it by creating your own comment and not picking up a useless banter with me. Please kindly leave my comment alone.

Seriously. She and that other girl idk her name lol caused him mental and physical pain, and he still saved her multiple times, and he also apologised and everything and shes still a hoe. Like at least consider forgiving him, that shit he did as a kid pales in comparison to how he was treated.

You guys should get over yourselves and move on, geez

It's almost like we were the ones who came at you lmao. Girl just go away stop commenting on my topic (〜￣△￣)〜