Hmm i dont get ppls problem. He went to the bar to have sex.... and he drank, so obviously...

Nothing in this has rape at all.

Honey you did end the comment with a good point that people should be careful but everything else sounds like what rapists say after raping drunk people

Drunk consent is not consent

even if he went for the intention of sex, he was drunk when consenting so it counts as rape as he WASNT in his right state of mind.

Yep, finally a normal fucking person here jesus-

Ya

Agreed

keep in mind that he wanted to be drunk and have sex, that’s why he drank

even if he wanted to have sex, you still need permission to have sex but he was too drunk and wasn’t in his right state of mind so it doesn’t count as consent, therefore it’s rape.

Hmm i hate to say this but, IF it IS rape, then it is his fault going there in the first place. He went to a strange area with no friends around and decided getting drunk was a good idea. Thats the stupidest thing. Thats like a 90% chance someone is going to ask to sleep and in your opinion, get 'raped'. If so, I personally blame the hyung for going there and getting drunk when he knew exactly what kind of place it was, and his friend for telling him about the place and not even following him to make sure he is safe.

Also, question, if getting consent from a drunk person is rape, then wouldnt these bars be sued? For being a place of 'rape'? I dont think your logic is right... He went with the intention of sex, knew the type of person he wanted (beautiful and if they looked like the seme, bonus points), if they werent his type, he refused (this means that he was sober enough to say no), and found a person who fit it his standards and agreed to sleep with them. Although he drank, he was sober enough to know exactly what he wanted. Not rape.

Like i said in my original comment, it would be rape if the person was intoxicated by drugs or was forced to drink THEN consented. Its not rape if the person is sober enough to refuse and sober enough to know what he came there for then consented.

i agree with ur two other points except the first one, yes it was a stupid idea to went there, but what u said was the definition of victim blaming, if he was raped, it will NEVER be his fault, he was careless yes but blame the rapist for even thinking of doing it. just bcs he was naive or stupid doesnt mean he deserves to get raped or when he was raped that’s his fault.

Hmm the 'rapist' didnt even think of 'raping'.

And dont forget, this uke isnt the naive type, he knows exactly how horrible a person can be even of theyre handsome, but hes going to a gay bar to look for a one night stand. Yeah, a rapist is a rapist and they deserve to be punished, but the uke wouldnt even have a problem if he didnt drink. Hes not those innocent ukes, he has experience and he knows what ppl at a gay bar are looking for.

Sorry if it sounds like victim blaming, i even said in the beginning of my last reply that i hated to say it, but its the truth. If it was even rape (which it wasnt as the bar guy wasnt looking to rape someone nor is the seme as the uke wanted to have sex that night, and he chose a white haired guy) partial of the blame is to the uke for going to that kinda place and partial is to his friend who stupidly told him a bar, knew it was his first time at one, and let him go alone. You said that i said that " yes it was a stupid idea to went there" but i said that looking at your guys perspective that he was raped. It wasnt a stupid idea to go there becuz he went there for sex and he got it. (To make this clearer, if he didnt want sex, he is also to blame and his friend should be blamed as well with the rapist taking the most blame. But he DID want sex, so I DONT think he is stupid (but i still think the friend is horrible as its the ukes first time)

Honestly, i dont even understand why people would go to a bar in the first place without trustworthy friends (and without the intentions of having sex), as it always ends horribly. It should be basic knowledge school teach kids.

Anyways, im done explaining to anyone else who wants to reply. I think i made my point clear and if you dont agree to my many paragraphs, oh well, i guess avoid yaois with similar plots.

i said i agreed with u -_- and i thought ur first paragraph that i replied to u meant it in general, in this story yes the uke had the intention, but if someone have no intention to have sex and be drunk at the same time, dont blame them for going to such a place. that’s all im saying. im not talking about the story, im talking if it happens irl. and even if someone doesnt have the intentions of “raping” someone, they could have done so unintentionally by having sex with someone without their consent or they were confuse or some sort. r*pe isnt always done intentionally, sometimes they dont even realise what they’re doing is wrong.