I really like the nuanced FL and ML

MangaAnger9 June 12, 2021 7:03 pm

But even this story couldn't get rid of the tropes we ve seen too much.

The Evil Stupid Bitch going crazy because of the ML and who is deliberately portrayed more uglier than conventional beautiful Tia.
The red haired mad violent annoying obessive second ML appearing from nowhere.
(Doesn't suffer the 2nd Lead syndrome since he is obvious worse than the kind ML)
The FL getting kidnapped and then saved by the ML so she will get romantically more closer to the him.
Two alphaholes fighting over the fragile delicate desirable FL.

Responses
    Nishi June 12, 2021 9:52 pm

    I don’t think it does.
    In most stories
    evil bitch: beautiful (sometimes more than the FL) loved or feared by most.
    What we saw here was
    A bitch: average look, only has one purpose not important to the rest of the story.

    As you see as soon as she did what was needed, she got killed off. She didn’t matter that much. Her purpose was to get the FL kidnapped and created a bridge between ML and FL.

    Also the FL is far from being fragile, remember that her tongue, legs and arms were cut off. Yet she still managed to cast a magical spell by bleeding out the rest of her tongue...fragile and delicate???

    Just because she doesn’t bare a sword or know how to fight physically, it does not mean she’s fragile. She can destroy kingdoms, and make kings. She has POWER. If people knew her value, she would be kidnapped endlessly.

    MangaAnger9 June 12, 2021 10:08 pm
    I don’t think it does.In most stories evil bitch: beautiful (sometimes more than the FL) loved or feared by most.What we saw here wasA bitch: average look, only has one purpose not important to the rest of th... Nishi

    Yes, that was indeed the purpose of that disposable one dimensional stock character.

    I also see Tia as very resilient and powerful in her own way.

    But the way she was framed once the two tall prideful adonis guys starting fighting/trying to kill each other to get the price/princess...

    I just personally didn't like that tropey direction.

    Shay June 12, 2021 10:34 pm
    Yes, that was indeed the purpose of that disposable one dimensional stock character. I also see Tia as very resilient and powerful in her own way.But the way she was framed once the two tall prideful adonis guy... MangaAnger9

    I have yet to see the direction it's going. The red head remembers the past future/future past after all.. Idk, I still wonder what his role will be. Since he is an obvious madman (let's be honest, the shadowing on his face.. He's drawn as a villain not 2nd lead)

    kanjiro June 13, 2021 5:01 am

    This is such a shit take in my opinion.
    If you thought Aubrey was ugly, then that’s just your opinion and perceptions of beauty because she by NO MEANS WAS NOT unconventionally pretty. She checks all marks for what being conventionally pretty is, she just probably looked ugly to you because of her ugly attitude.

    A girl being kidnapped does not suddenly mean there’s a trope.. this is a clear unprecedented event to further the ML’s character growth, he quite literally shattered his old ideas about loyalty for the sake of Tia, this is not a standard trope to get a meaningless hug and kiss from the FL.

    And the worst take of all was saying that Tia is weak and delicate. Desirable? YES, she’s quite literally extraordinary in every way and extremely capable without having stupid FL super powers. But weak and delicate? She mustered severe abused for the sake of her maternal family’s success and did so with her own power, which she was not GIVEN AT ALL. Tia had to prove her worth to her family in order to seem useful, and was tortured for it.. idk about you and or anyone else but that doesn’t sound like a weak person. But I could agree that she is delicate, she is a soft person and sensitive when it counts.

    Overall, your post was a massive L.

    MangaAnger9 June 13, 2021 6:43 am
    This is such a shit take in my opinion. If you thought Aubrey was ugly, then that’s just your opinion and perceptions of beauty because she by NO MEANS WAS NOT unconventionally pretty. She checks all marks fo... kanjiro

    You shouldn't take this plot too seriously or feel too offended because of some other opinions that might threaten/challenge your well-invested view/love for the characters + the story.

    You don't want to communicate reasonably with me but rather insult and win against me by all means.

    But have it your way.

    kanjiro June 13, 2021 6:50 am
    You shouldn't take this plot too seriously or feel too offended because of some other opinions that might threaten/challenge your well-invested view/love for the characters + the story.You don't want to communi... MangaAnger9

    I’m good but you seem hurt??
    I just thought your opinion was an L,
    I started by saying that my take is also an opinion.

    Just yours lacked flavor.

    MangaAnger9 June 13, 2021 7:01 am
    I’m good but you seem hurt?? I just thought your opinion was an L, I started by saying that my take is also an opinion. Just yours lacked flavor. kanjiro

    Have a nice day

    kanjiro June 14, 2021 4:35 am
    Have a nice day MangaAnger9

    Right back at ya buckaroo