Ok wow at first i was interested and it ended up been just straight up r*pe. Like seriousl...

I agree!! It started off like it was gnna b interesting but then the plot completely disappeared and the seme was constantly attacking the uke and ignoring all of his rejections. And even the last line? "I wont stop even if you cry"???? Gross

Y’all do y’all not know consensual nonconsensual sex? I have no idea if you guys know what this is. But the UKE said that he wants more.. and “I won’t stop even if you cry,” is like degrading kink line ,, I’m just educating ofc!! I would NEVER justify rape ever :’j I just don’t want any misunderstandings for a nontoxic couple !!

Yeah, I think it also is, but for the sake of "tension" the author didnt really clear the type of sex. Its just that many author thinks this kind of sex (con-non-con) is still on the taste of the people.

This is not cnc. Clearly you're the one not educated. Cnc stems off rape trauma and is a way for the person who was raped to take control of the horrible situation they were in before. Cnc also needs to be heavily talked about before and after a scene and there needs to be safe words. That clearly never happened in this story. The seme is completely toxic and doesnt listen to anything the uke is saying when he denys sex. Imagine if it was you? No matter how many times u say no they just ignore you and keep going. Its not fun. Lets stop throwing around cnc as if its just "no means yes" when in reality it's something way heavier and deeper then that.

Please look at my other reply as to why this is not cnc and why it should not be normalized as what cnc is. Any person who participates in cnc and has trauma will tell you this this is not cnc at all.

Yeah I agree. I wish ppl could see that there are different ways couples have sex honestly :’) I saw the other conversation of someone who disagrees with me and I don’t think they saw the message I was trying to convey. I do understand what they meant why the trauma but consensual non consensual sex is not always rooting from trauma and can be a kink as well ╥﹏╥ but yah pls end of convo :’j

Im not particularly fighting anyone here, Im just saying that in this chapter (recent chapter) it is not clearly stated. whether it is a consentive sex or not, this way, it makes the sexual tension higher. Thats just it

I mean its not con-non-con, but it is also not specifically stated if the sex is rape or consented.

But for example, they are actors (uke and top) in BL world and they are filming this BL, its is like the director [author] uses cnc or not clearly stated (rape or consented) sex. In order to garner more sexual tension that can be seen by the viewers [us readers]

Like some Thai BL drama

U know what u are explaining is a bdsm thing
There is NO mention of consenting to bdsm nor a safe word
The fact that he begged him to stop and then gave up doesnt mean its not rpe

Actually, my statement isnt about arguing whether it is cnc or not. Im in the side of more like, "it is not clearly stated for the sake of sexual tension" side.

I will first search thoroughly about cnc before making conclusions.

There is no reason to have a cnc kink without any trauma??? Yall still are taking cnc as this light sex play. It is not.

Clearly saying no is not "for the sake of sexual tension
This aint cnc, this is rpe and u are too young if u cant see it

Cnc is not that and stop spreading misinformation about it
And what u just explain is the abuse of the concept of rpe as a way to make the scene look hot
U just made this look worse u didnt explain nothing
Its clear rpe in this one
Not cnc(as someone from the bdsm i KNOW what this is and im an adult who has actually done research, not a tik tok kid acting smart)

Couldn't agree more

Yall must be 4 if u call this "not clearly stated"
It was literally a rpe scene
Many to be exact
Its one of the most ridiculously obviously mangas when it comes to rpe and yall still defend it???
If u liked it u can just go and say u liked it AND admit it was rpe
I used to enjoy all types of stories, even those ones
The reason i cant now is bec im getting triggered bec i have also been a victim of this and intense scenes with clear rpe trigger me
If its not clear like u stated then i wouldn't have been triggered

U can say u liked it without trying to excuse it
What u are doing its literally the same as saying "sangwoo didn't kidnap/rpe yoonbum bec yoonbum had feelings for him, it was unclear"
Not it wasnt, i can admit it and i still say i liked it

Why go so far trying to excuse it and pretend it wasnt there?

Its a kink related trauma
Its not necessarily rpe trauma, but it ONLY comes from sex*al trauma
If u KNEW what u were talking about, u would knew that
But u dont

Cnc isnt about your simple kinks or your tastes
And not making it clear wether or not it was rpe is a thing yes, its not a GOOD THING but it exists for tention
Those scenes were not "unclear" nor cnc
And u dont know what u are talking about in both things
Not clear is NOT yelling to the other to stop
Cnc is NOT something u do randomly with someone
U can say u liked the manga without trying to excuse the toxic characters, its not bad and no one is gonna judge u
Why go THAT FAR and spread misinformation about 2 serious things?
I also like ks but i wont go around saying SANGWOO AINT NO MURDERER
NAH he was toxic and problematic, and i liked it
Same with this one, i commented i didnt like it bec of some obvious things (that u cant debate on bec if u aren't 14 u can SEE it) why do u feel the need to explain with wrong info to me that it wasn't that? U could have just commented u liked it either way

Okay fine, I wouldnt get into a fight and ocnce again I tried to express my opinion, not an argument, if you think it is clearly stated then so be it.