Ch 48 sy is lying unconscious and ts sticks his finger in his ass to push his own cum inside. Would you call that consensual?
Exactlyyyy
I wouldn't call it rape either.
They literally just had sex a few minutes ago. They're literally in a relationship together. Taesung wasn't just some random guy that popped out of nowhere and then suddenly stuck his fingers into some random dude lol.
Plus when he stuck his fingers in, Sooyung kinda woke up which is why Taesung whispered in his ears. It's pretty clear that Sooyung knew who that was touching his ass.
It's kinky afterplay. Kinky and rough, that's like their thing, I thought that was obvious enough
Calling it rape is just too much is what I'm trying to say. You seriously aren't lumping this action to all the much more rapey shit that Minhyuk did.
If it’s not consensual, it’s rape/sexual assault. You cannot give consent if you are unconscious. Knowing the person that is raping/sexually assaulting you doesn’t make it any less rape or sexual assault. And no, you can’t just call it a kink and be on your way every time a character does something wrong. Call it what it is.
Just because you like a character doesn’t mean you can act like they do no wrong. What he did was sexual assault. Period.
Didn't in chapter 3 taesung clearly was grouping him without his consent I mean it not rape but still bad he literally said no
Yes yes i would call it consensual because sooyoung consented to far more awkward things.
Jesus ....At that point they are practically a couple , though they haven't fleshed out their confession
If your boyfriend whom you have feelings for touch your breast when you are sleeping is he assaulting you?
Chapter 3 he barely knew the beside him knocking his shit out but ok ┐(´ー｀)┌
In chapter 3 taesung didn't even know sooyoung. And that harsh fight between them is necessary for character attributes: taesung a yakuza . Sooyoung a loveless fighter who survived his abusive father
What does that have to do with rape or sexual assault
Just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean you give ongoing consent. It doesn't matter what happened before, at that time he was unconscious. You call it whatever you wanna call it, technically speaking it is rape.
I'm referring to the fact he literally touch his dick and he was literally telling him to stop that all
Lol, they're going as far back as Chapter 3. Their relationship at that point was nonexistent. Sooyung to Taesung was nothing more than just a debtor and a loan shark. In case they forgot, Taesung at that point was a gangster boss who have probably killed or beaten up anyone that wasn't able to pay their debts, people like Sooyung.
Why are they even trying to bring up what Taesung at that point? Literally they barely knew each other and Taesung was literally already a ruthless gangster boss there. He could've even killed Sooyung at that point because Sooyung meant nothing to Taesung at that point. Like bruh these poeple are so weird XD
Sometimes I wonder if Taeseung's defenders can't really recognize abuse or they just pretend not to.
That's rich coming from someone who persistently calls what Taesung did as rape. I bet all those poeple who sucks their sleeping boyfriend's dick or those who touch their sleeping partner's genitals or those who fondle their sleeping girlfriend's boobs are just rapists and molesters.
Yeah
I have been sexually assaulted throughout my life since I'm a transgender person living in a third world country in which girly boys like me get assaulted on daily basis.
So i know what rape or harassment is.
Taesung and sooyoung are in a consensual relationship...taesung is not an ANGEL but I prefer him to that rapist minhyuk
I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. This is a serious issue for a lot of us.
But we have to understand that there are things that are considered rape/sexual assault. That's not a matter of opinion, that's a fact. Any sexual activity with an unconscious person is considered sexual assault. In this case since there was penetration it is considered rape. It doesn't matter if the person is your spouse, it doesn't matter if the person consented to other things in the past. That's just the way it is. Just because some people may like to get off on touching a drunk/asleep/passed out person it doesn't mean that it's ok.
That being said, Taeseung is a gangster, he kills people, sexual assault means nothing to him, it shouldn't be surprising to anyone at this point.
Yes, since there is no consent. Just because he's my boyfriend doesn't mean he automatically gets a free pass to grope me
First of all I think we should notice how sooyoung perceives the situation, does he think he was assaulted? No. And sooyoung is not an unreliable character
Taesung maybe a tough ruthless yakuza but the point of the story is he is slowly changing because of his feelings for sooyoung. Sooyoung is his soft spot why do you treat it as if taesung wouldn't mind assaulting sooyoung in his sleep. You have no evidence . I do .
In ch 23 or 24 taesung said that he is not into satisfying himself with an unconscious person ( referring to the fact that sooyoung passes out out of too much orgasms) If sexual assault means nothing to tae then why in ttis specific sex scene ch 23 taesung stopped himself right before his climax when he was afraid thay sooyoung might pass out from orgasms?
I call taesung possessive, insecure, a person who is unable to have healthy communication in relationship
But I don't call jim a rapist because there's no EVIDENCE
Why there is a war in the comments. The facts are clear. Minhuyk is the only f***king rapist in the manhwa.
Sooyoung is sane and gives consent to taesung for sex .taesung is not raping him they just like it rough
Taesung even stopped during his climax because sooyoung said no for real one time though sooyoung regretted that taesung stopped.
Sooyoung is the only person who talks to taesung as if he's his equal
The only problem in their relationship is that taesung refuses to talk about his past to sooyoung.