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Melonhoe July 8, 2021 3:16 pm

Soooo...where's the apology guys?

Responses
    Mece July 8, 2021 3:35 pm

    None from me. Opening up is what he needs to do in order to move forward as a person, a father, and a husband.

    He's lucky old Abagail died and new Abagail transmitigatged. Otherwise it would be the usual business of him ignoring his wife while she abused his daughter. New Abagail is a saint. Her patience is what led to this result.

    Melonhoe July 8, 2021 3:41 pm
    None from me. Opening up is what he needs to do in order to move forward as a person, a father, and a husband. He's lucky old Abagail died and new Abagail transmitigatged. Otherwise it would be the usual busine... Mece

    I'm talking about the people who said that he should be nice to Abigail and is unreasonable for avoiding her when he legit has trauma

    Shay July 8, 2021 3:55 pm
    None from me. Opening up is what he needs to do in order to move forward as a person, a father, and a husband. He's lucky old Abagail died and new Abagail transmitigatged. Otherwise it would be the usual busine... Mece

    Anyone would be a Saint compared to old abigail

    Melonhoe July 8, 2021 4:06 pm
    Anyone would be a Saint compared to old abigail Shay

    Lol yes Abigail is literally a normal fan girl like some of us

    Oneesama July 8, 2021 4:13 pm
    None from me. Opening up is what he needs to do in order to move forward as a person, a father, and a husband. He's lucky old Abagail died and new Abagail transmitigatged. Otherwise it would be the usual busine... Mece

    Exactly, I agree with you... even tho it was something traumatic what he went through, i think he's making such a fuss out of it... he's a grown man now with a family and lots of responsibilities, a daughter to raise to be the heir of the crown, he should just move on now!... I don't deny the fact that what the late queen did was disgusting, and something that no one should be put through! However, a woman on her own cannot make a child, if he was being forced why he functioned as a man?... if he was that scare or unaware cuz of the illness i think he wouldn't have had an erection on the queen! Even less if he was passed out!

    Mece July 8, 2021 4:18 pm
    Exactly, I agree with you... even tho it was something traumatic what he went through, i think he's making such a fuss out of it... he's a grown man now with a family and lots of responsibilities, a daughter to... Oneesama

    I don't think he needs to just move on. But move carefully. He kinda shouldn't have gotten remarried considering. Or at least chosen his new bride carefully.

    river July 8, 2021 4:22 pm
    Exactly, I agree with you... even tho it was something traumatic what he went through, i think he's making such a fuss out of it... he's a grown man now with a family and lots of responsibilities, a daughter to... Oneesama

    some of you really didn't listen during biology lessons, huh.... or sex ed if your curriculum has it, either one works. reread the chapter, please - sabelian was TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF when he was sick (aka he can't fight back, aka he's powerless to consciously avoid the former queen's advances). morally-speaking that's wrong on its own, but to fault him for his body's NATURAL reactions to stimuli? i'd advise you to look stuff up if you're so adamant about openly blaming him using that excuse.

    if it was the other way around (a young noble lady being assaulted by an older prince/king), y'all would be all up on that male pedo's ass about sexual harassment, smh. suddenly when it's the male who's the victim, it's still his fault? talk about double standards.

    Mece July 8, 2021 4:26 pm
    Anyone would be a Saint compared to old abigail Shay

    I've been spoiled on Old Abigail's upbringing, and how she died, but the manga won't get to why she is the way she is til much later.

    Suffice to say Old Abagail's pride, and the King's phobia are the worst combo. Abagail may have been happy if she gotten married to any high ranking man that stayed faithful to her. But instead she got married to someone who can't desire her, and also never explained why. So she lashed out. Another princess could have just as easily wallowed and locked herself away. I kinda think that's what seems to be the difference between heroines and villainess in these stories. Agagail isn't passive, she also externalizes things.

    I think when old Abagail is brought up people forget. The king didn't start ignoring her after she began to terrorize Blanche and the maids. She started terrorizing Blanche and the maids because the king ignored her. Still a bitch, yes. But her being a bitch doesn't make getting pulled into a loveless political marriage an easier burden to bear.

    Mece July 8, 2021 4:32 pm
    I'm talking about the people who said that he should be nice to Abigail and is unreasonable for avoiding her when he legit has trauma Melonhoe

    Original Abagail got married to the king without knowing that she would be going into a loveless marriage. No talking, to touching, no nothing. That is unreasonable.

    That's the sort of thing one should know before they say I do. Not learn on their wedding night. He even told old Abagail to live like she didn't exist. It is all in the second chapter of this manga.

    New Abigail is dealing with the fall out. Including getting shit from old Abigail's family for not being pregnant yet. Which is why she asked to dance at the festival.

    Now that actual communication has happend they can move forward and work on establishing proper boundaries.

    Mece July 8, 2021 4:36 pm
    Lol yes Abigail is literally a normal fan girl like some of us Melonhoe

    She's certainly better than me. I would have ignored him and spent all my time repairing the relationship with Blanche. I wouldn't have even bothered trying to convince him to eat with Blanche. I would have given her all the love she needed on my own. lol

    Shay July 8, 2021 6:18 pm
    Original Abagail got married to the king without knowing that she would be going into a loveless marriage. No talking, to touching, no nothing. That is unreasonable.That's the sort of thing one should know befo... Mece

    I hesitated a lot when I wrote my first comment, because what I really wanted to say was "if the king's trauma didnt excuses his behaviour, then his cold attitude/his rejection, doesnt excuse old abi's harrassement toward Blanche"
    But there was something in your comment that couldn't make me totally disagree with you, even you put the blame on ML and I want to defend. It was this sentence:
    "Otherwise it would be the usual business of him ignoring his wife while she abused his daughter"
    You're right there, trauma or not, once you see your wife bully your kid, you do something.

    I had already reread the first two chapters when I wrote my first comment and honestly... I dont see the ML being that harsh with Abi. He has a phobia of women (he just proved it) he CANNOT touch a woman. And thats all he said to Abi.
    In the flashbacks it really feels like the words he said after that happened at other times.
    Considering what you said, I guess old Abi couldn't simply listen to his warnings so their relationship worsened, (and he became more cruel) but they both participated to that. Like you said, they are a bad combo.

    I have the impression that when you judge them, you look at different point in times. (Sorry english is not my native language, I can't find a better word than "judge" but I dont mean in a bad way)
    When you judge old Abi you look at how it all started, and when you judge the ML you look at how it ended. Ofc the ML is the bad one in that case. But if you look at the beginning... Then it's just a sad story with a lot of grey and no real culprit to me (and only one victim, Blanche)


    PS: user Oneesama, I have no words.... If you were a man, you would probably go around women saying "you wear a skirt, ins't like you're asking men to rape you" "cmon, you enjoyed it didnt you ?"

    Mece July 8, 2021 6:33 pm
    I hesitated a lot when I wrote my first comment, because what I really wanted to say was "if the king's trauma didnt excuses his behaviour, then his cold attitude/his rejection, doesnt excuse old abi's harrasse... Shay

    It is super grey. But it seems like no one can talk about any of it....Like so many posts about how readers should feel bad for "judging" the King....Like no, harm was still done. That doesn't make him irredeemable. It doesn't have to be either or.

    Shay July 8, 2021 6:34 pm

    .... "I have the impression that when you judge them, you look at different point in times."

    ............... I guess it seems like I did the same BUT, I only blame abi for what she did to Blanche or her maids. I know whats it like to only know how to express your anger through agressivity, and I prefer to hurt walls (or myself) rather than human beings (if she had only hit the ML i wouldnt have said anything... but I guess hitting the king aint a good idea)

    Mece July 8, 2021 6:41 pm
    .... "I have the impression that when you judge them, you look at different point in times."............... I guess it seems like I did the same BUT, I only blame abi for what she did to Blanche or her maids. I... Shay

    The original Abagail had serious issues for sure. But that's what makes everything so complicated for new Abigail. Its a mixed up situation with fault to spread around. And new Abigail has to make amends as best she can for other's sins.

    I am part not anti Old Abagail cuz the way she got married. And part because spoilers. Not that I think the spoilers absolve old Abagail. But like the king gives context.

    Melonhoe July 8, 2021 7:30 pm

    I- I just asked people to apologise for victim shaming and guilt tripping the dude y is there a debate about Abigail and wat not, lmao

    Melonhoe July 8, 2021 7:32 pm
    I don't think he needs to just move on. But move carefully. He kinda shouldn't have gotten remarried considering. Or at least chosen his new bride carefully. Mece

    Oh btw he had no choice he was forced to by those greasy nobles for an alliance(?) With the neighbouring(?) Country through Abigail

    Melonhoe July 8, 2021 7:38 pm
    I don't think he needs to just move on. But move carefully. He kinda shouldn't have gotten remarried considering. Or at least chosen his new bride carefully. Mece

    Also some of yall are fucking crazy and biased comparing simply being ignored to being RAPED

    Mece July 8, 2021 7:48 pm
    Oh btw he had no choice he was forced to by those greasy nobles for an alliance(?) With the neighbouring(?) Country through Abigail Melonhoe

    His country is stronger and larger than her's actually. Original Abi is the one under pressure on that front. Well now New Abi based on chapter 26.

    The only pressure he was under to get remarried over was because he doesn't have a male heir and without one his brother could become king. Or if his brother had a son then that son would become king and not Blanche.

    Shay July 8, 2021 7:56 pm
    Also some of yall are fucking crazy and biased comparing simply being ignored to being RAPED Melonhoe

    A wound is a wound, not matter which one is the worst, they all hurt (and they need to be treated)

    Mece July 8, 2021 7:58 pm
    Also some of yall are fucking crazy and biased comparing simply being ignored to being RAPED Melonhoe

    Not comparing on my part. But its still bad that he ignored his second wife. Why get married if all you are gonna do is ignore her WITHOUT explanation? At least give her a heads up?

    Also he ended up ignoring his second wife to the point of not doing anything to stop her from harrasing her servants and Blanche. He probably should have kicked original Abigail out, but he didn't even lift a finger to do that.