Yes I agree but that dosent change the fact that some of yall r pushing aside the dude's wound and saying "but he ignored her so he should be responsible" like tf kinda logic is this
Ik and that dosent excuse anything if u were trying to do that
Again ur ignoring the fact that he has a PHOBIA of WOMEN this isnt a simple matter of him ignoring someone he legit FEARS THE WOMEN, like if someone has arachnophobia(fear of spiders) ur not gonna expect them to just go up to a spider and and pet it or some shit or if someone has coulrophobia(fear of clowns) ur not gonna expect them to go high five them or start a conversation???
Ik and that dosent prove anything of that's wat ur trying to do
I agree but that doesn't change the fact that some of yall r pushing aside the dude's TRAUMA and PHOBIA and just saying "he ignored her, he should be responsible" like wtf kinda logic is that
Again ur ignoring the fact taht he has a PHOBIA of WOMEN, this isn't about him just ignoring someone he legit FEARS THEM like you wouldn't expect someone who has coulrophobia to go up to a clown and high five them or start a conversation with them?? Or if someone has arachnophobia to go up to a spider and pet it and give it love or some shit
My replies keep being deleted
It seems Mece's answer wasn't clear enough. We never ignored he was raped, what we are saying is that he should feel responsible, despite having a trauma, because he didn't show the respect abi should have received being his WIFE.
We know, we know he has his reasons. He had a phobia ? well, he could have written a letter... He didn't want to speak about his past to a stranger ? she wasnt a stranger she was his wife. He felt ashamed like he said in the last chapter ? Pride isn't a quality, I shouldn't have to explain why if you have any empathy and use it to look at the bigger picture (its even in the seven deadly sins)
He has a phobia ? ok
He doesn't want to get close to her ? ok
He doesn't pet her ? ok
He doesn't high five her ? ok
he ignores her without explaining ? not really ok
Does that mean Abi shoudn't feel responsible ? no, she too is responsible for what she did.
Tbh Mece, I think we already had a debate on a comment posted by a psychology student, comment was deleted I dunno if you answered me back then xd
Just because someone has the title "wife" or "husband" dosent mean they're suddenly not strangers, like unwanted arranged marriage exists and it's called forced marriage.
Also the part where you said "he ignores her without explaining ? not really ok" , I've already said this but seems u didnt take in the fact so I'll say it again he's not ignoring her he is SCARED of her, there is a difference to ignoring someone and avoiding someone cause ur scared of them, Confrontation can be a scary thing by itself. Also ur sense of empathy in this situation seems blatantly one sided, u empathise with Abigail but not the dude? I understand if you've never been in similar place as the dude but that doesn't give u the right to start judging and pointing fingers on who's at fault and who's responsible, it better to just not say anything if you dont understand.
No you still don't understand if you think I have no empathy toward ml and you think I'm pointing fingers (he still could have written a letter. Arranged marriage is still mariage)
No. I just think he either shouldn't have gotten married because of his issues with women. Or should have entered a contract with a woman so that she wouldn't try to approach him. Instead he just got married without explaining anything to the other human being now forced to live with him. The mess of his second marriage could have been avoided with preparation.
You know? So why were you trying to push the idea that he HAD to marry her because of politics, if you knew that original Abagail's country was the weaker one? And if you knew that the other nobles didn't care about anything but him bearing a son?
Really did you know?
He should not have taken a second wife. He tied an unrelated person's life to his. He dragged her into his life by marrying her. Once that happend it becomes her business because it effects her. And now it is effecting New Abagail, which was the lead up to the current chapter and why they were trying to practice dancing.
Personally it isn't that I think he should have told Original Abagail about his trauma. I just don't get what he expected her to do without any explanation. Maybe if he married a meeker, less prideful, woman, we'd be reading a story similar to Duchess of the Glass House. And maybe that's the type of woman he should have looked for before remarrying. Someone he could safely ignore. Too bad for Blanche Original Abagail didn't take getting ignored well.
the way i see it (and the direction where this "argument" is going), both sides are at fault. there's truly no need for you cuties to get so worked up ehe ╮(￣▽￣)╭ fictional stories can sometimes be a double-edged sword tbh, whoops
mece is correct in a sense that sabelian shouldn't have dragged a clueless person into his mess of a life via marriage, AND without proper communication at that. he knew what he was getting into, knew that remarrying would bring old wounds back, but the way he actively chose to deal with the matter of his phobia (bluntly telling old abi that he would never touch her, being hostile towards her, etc.) complicated things. i kinda agree that he and the old abigail had their personal issues to deal with in the first place, and that the marriage itself was detrimental to them as individuals. i sorta disagree with the whole "being choosy" thing, however - yeah, he could've chosen someone more meek or kind, but if you notice in most period(?) webtoons, they marry more for strengthening relations with other kingdoms/noble families, AND there's the assumption that sabelian may have chosen on a whim or maybe even had someone choose for him because of implications that he never wanted a queen in the past chapters; there may also be multiple reasons as to why he agreed to the marriage (e.g. had to uphold his image as a king, bc have you ever heard of kingdoms running without a queen tbh).
melonhoe's correct in a sense that his phobia of women is totally acceptable - again, how he dealt/maneuvered his way around it is what's wrong. old abi's personality made it worse - her gargantuan pride and misplaced sense of betrayal (her taking it out on servants and blanche) aggravated the issue further. sometimes you don't have to experience the same thing (not wishing it on anyone!) to empathize with someone who had undergone a traumatic event, being kind is for free. friendly reminder that male sexual harassment victims DO exist, and that not all women fit the mold of propriety (i'm looking at u, miriam u hag)!
that being said, i'm just glad that they now have better communication at this point, and that the fl reincarnated into old abi's body ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ more fluff for everyone ayyyy
Fr let's just stop I dont think our point r going across to eachother, this is a convo better done irl. Well have a good day
Soooo...where's the apology guys?