It actually makes me sick that he is trying to protect that witch

I mean communication can't always solve trauma ╮(￣▽￣)╭ that not how trauma works, I wish it would, but it isn't.

Communication definitely won’t solve trauma. Trauma can’t be erased, it depends how severe the trauma is. Several years to lifetime when unresolved.

I wish trauma could be healed but we aren’t invincible, we are just human beings and suffering is the norm regarding trauma.

The grandma is a two faced hag.

I don't mean talk to solve any of their trauma. I meant talk so they can both know what's going on in each other's heads. Currently the story is focus on the seme and the results of everything he has been through, explaining his possessiveness towards the uke. But not once has the uke asked him what it was like growning up in that house and why the hell the red hair cousin would go so far as too drug him. Or even why he felt like telling the grandma would be useless ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

That’s why I stated before that Suha lacks awareness/ is too calm after that recent traumatic incident.
Even when Jiwoon is showing obvious signs of mental issues/problems in general/insecurity, he doesn’t seem to go deep into it. Idk in a relationship, you both need to communicate, or at least one partner showing awareness and care for the other who’s suffering.

Maybe they’ll explain why Suha is so calm.

You have to remember that Suha has his own trauma from Do Hyeok. Do Hyeok raped, abused, isolated, and used Suha. He turned Suha into his little toy. Even breaking away from the lifestyle he had with Do Hyeok, he still sought out a very heavily sex drive life. Since he’s older now and President Lee hooked him up with a job being Jiwoon’s secretary, he’s on his own. But Do Hyeok still groomed him. His calm could be from his grooming. Jiwoon very much wants to protect Suha by keeping him in the dark while he gets his revenge. I also think his revenge is on Do Hyeok, not the grandmother. I think Jiwoon understands why Suha holds his grandma in high regard and is okay with him being in the dark with how evil she is.

Yes I know he has his own trauma from the tampon head but still bothers me how calm he is, it’s not everyday you see someone with trauma so calm. I assume he’s just so used to it. I understand what you mean by being calm—basically being used to it which isn’t good.

I just wish he would keep himself safe and be more aware. You can try to be aware, it’s not gonna be difficult. His actions make it seem like he forgot about everything that happened. I hope he won’t just let it go, t “it”— I mean the incident. It seems like he just lets bad experiences pass.

Both Jiwoon and Suha have unresolved traumas.

And I know that Jiwoon isn’t targeting the grandmother, he’s targeting the tampon head. Getting Yoon to cooperate with him and Manager Choi to get evidences against tampon head. Suha knows already, he wanted to help but Jiwoon didn’t want to involve him. He wants to protect him, as you said.

Yes, Jiwoon understands why Suha doesn’t want to involve the grandmother. Honestly, I don’t think the grandmother knows how bad the tampon head is, and if so, she isn’t at fault or to be involved with what Jiwoon is planning.

but I think their trauma is what controlling them right now, from all aspects of life. And you can't really talk free about personal trauma. it very hard to talk about and most people avoid it, especially with the people dear to them so as not to look weak.
and it is especially hard on Suha that was groomed and grow up with someone that abuse him almost all his life! and the worst thing Suha does not see how wrong it was since he grow up with it as a child. not even talking about how child Jiwoon suffer as well from his "mother" figure/parent figure that made him feel that he is disgusting and no one will ever love him.
you partner is not your psychologist! they can't help even if you tell them.
so I don't see any point for them to open old wounds. I think Suha know that Jiwoon trying to protect him and Jiwoon doing what he thinks is best for both of them.
there is no right or wrong way to do it, actually.
and I didn't even talk about how the redhead send people to rape Jiwoon!
as long that redhead asshole is around, they both of danger. so there is no better or worse way to handle it.

I’m not saying Suha or Jiwoon has to be a psychologist for each other but that’s what you’re in a relationship for, you both love each other so I expect both of them to CARE for each other. Both are lacking communication as I’ve said many times.

For Jiwoon, the wound already is open and he’s not getting any help or awareness. He’s blinded to protect Suha while Suha has no idea (well actually he knows about the company issues but as I’ve said, he seems too calm regardless. He have been groomed, he needs therapy if they’re both gonna be in a relationship. Suha lacks awareness and care for his own safety which isn’t good as I’ve said before.)

There is a better way to handle the red head or would you rather them just let red head do whatever?

As what Jiwoon is doing, finding evidences against the red head and Suha offered to help as well but he doesn’t know exactly what’s up, Jiwoon doesn’t want to involve Suha. Traumas can’t be healed immediately of course but there can be coping stuff for that.

I wonder what the author is gonna do. I swear to nothing if Author makes redhead assault/rape Suha, this storyline is just a mess even more then.

they already show very clearly and fully how both of them care about each other despite their personal trauma and I disagree they need to talk about old wounds to show they care.

There are many ways to show you care about someone, even if you don't tell them everything. Not everyone is comfortable to share everything even in their relationship, and it's fine. They don't have too.

How is there a better way? He is crazy and even send people to rape others! The only good way to handle him is sending him to prison! but that won't be easy since that old bitch protecting him.

Suha does not need to know much either ╮(￣▽￣)╭ even if he does know, there isn't much he can do against that crazy guy.

redhead already rape Suha in the past and abuse him, I won't be surprise if he tries again to rape him or harm him. why should he stop now? the only way to stop him is which the police.

You’re saying what I’m saying as well lmao. As I said previously, there IS A BETTER WAY. Finding evidences against the red head which will lead him to PRISON eventually. We all know red head is crazy, that’s why I’m saying Jiwoon is finding evidences cause he can’t just go to prison without evidence that he’s bad.

So yes, that is a better way.

I never said they need to talk about old wounds to show that they care for each other, the old wound reopened and all I’m saying is for them to communicate since the situation right now is not gonna solve by itself. That’s another reason why communication even exists in the first place. I never said to talk about the past wounds, right now Jiwoon’s wound has opened up; by that wound reopening, I mean his trauma issues.

Of course I know they both care for each other, we know they care for each other because Jiwoon is doing his best to find evidences against the red head while making sure Suha won’t be involved by keeping Suha at home. Suha here doesn’t know and he deserves to know for his own safety, so he can be AWARE of what’s up.

“ Not everyone is comfortable to share everything even in their relationship, and it's fine. They don't have too. ”

I never said anything about sharing EVERYTHING? Where did you get that from? Maybe my words made you misunderstand but no, that’s not what I’m saying at all.

Both Suha and Jiwoon has trauma issues. It’s not gonna resolve by itself. The best way to cope is to talk it out after this maybe, and spend time with each other, stay healthy, communicate, don’t gotta talk about everything but whatever makes them comfortable talking about; whenever they’re ready.

Suha does need to know cause he himself is curious as to why Jiwoon wants him home and why Jiwoon is outside so much. You’d be curious as well if your partner wants you to stay home for who knows how long. Even Suha himself confronted Jiwoon about what he’s hiding.

It’s not about being surprised or not if red head tries to assault/rape, why would we be surprised when people here are already assuming red head is gonna probably try to assault/rape Suha? It shows that we aren’t surprised, just worried for Suha. Anyways, as I said, surprised or not is not the point here, it’s Suha’s safety we are concerned for.

Jiwoon already doing what is need to be done, so there is no better way since the redhead is protected by the family even if he finds evidence against him.

If both understand each other, and they do by the way, they already communicate enough for me ╮(￣▽￣)╭

"so he can be AWARE of what’s up" for Jiwoon it is a double sword, if he knows then he will get hurt even if he isn't doing anything. And Jiwoon most of the chance trying to protect him from the ugly reality and not only redhead bitch, not the most healthy way but that how Jiwoon is, and I won't try to change him now.

well they do enjoy heaving sex most of the time, but right now it is a time that Jiwoon have to take care of things. once it is solve and Suha will be safe, I'm sure Jiwoon will calm down and let him do whatever he wants. don't forget, it is not the best time for Jiwoon, and he can't do anything about it, it is beyond his control since he wants to protect Suha no matter what.

The grandmother doesn’t know the red head is doing such bad deeds so I doubt she would want a heir to the company who is the cause of the embezzlement, harming Suha since childhood, etc. She is someone who cares for the company and honor of family. No wonder why Jiwoon’s mom was kicked out because she was from a bankrupt less prestigious family with no honor.

I agree that both communicate enough in a way but this situation, both do NOT understand. Just cause this is how Jiwoon is does not excuse his toxic behavior, he needs to be aware of what he’s doing, it’s selfish if you just care about yourself and not how your partner feels, like choosing for them; whether they should know or not, making them stay home, isolating your partner, cutting off contacts. This isn’t how Jiwoon is, he wasn’t like this before, it’s all cause of the tampon head.

Suha deserves to know. Jiwoon is hiding it for a reason but when Suha asks for the final time, Jiwoon has to let Suha know since Jiwoon is doing it for Suha.
Suha isn’t a baby for anyone to isolate from danger, in this case I understand what Jiwoon and doing and I support that he’s trying to get rid of the red head, all I’m saying is that Suha DESERVES TO KNOW soon. I’m not saying he has to know NOW but when things get to the verge of Suha’s curiosity, he needs to know.

Hiding things isn’t gonna work out well.

I know Jiwoon isn’t at his best moment right now, I made the whole huge spoiler document so obviously I would know what’s up and their reasons.

I’m not the one to side with anyone, I just see from my perspective and put some observations onto Suha and Jiwoon, including tampon head, others.

"it’s selfish if you just care about yourself" I don't really agree that Jiwoon only care about himself. again everything he is doing now is not for himself, it is for Suha safety and peace of mind. you can say his actions is toxic, and it is toxic in a way, but think about it this way - what is better to let Suha run free and meet redhead asshole that will rape/ kidnap him (redhead can do that if he can send people to rape others)
or lock Suha until the danger will be gone and stop redhead from getting close to him.

no matter how we look at it, redhead is dangerous for others and have power and money. so I can't blame Jiwoon.

Like you said, it isn't typical thing for Jiwoon to do, it only for this time.

like I said, it is complicated, and both sides have it hard. For Jiwoon it is a double sword. it isn't his fault or Suha fault, it is just the situation they are in.

we see I guess ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Oh no, I’m saying “it’s selfish if you care about yourself” in GENERAL, not towards specifically Jiwoon. Yeah Jiwoon obviously doesn’t care about himself, as you and I said, he’s doing this for Suha’s safety.

I already know that is is better for Jiwoon to have Suha home. I agree with that. I’m saying he has to let Suha know the situation so Suha won’t feel lost.

Jiwoon didn’t LOCK Suha home. Did you see ch 87 of the raws? We just found out that Suha can open the door and leave at any time, shows Jiwoon really trusts Suha in a way which is nice! And Suha is also understanding of Jiwoon’s feelings and promised to stay home so in no way, as some people claim he’s a hostage, is he a hostage.

Both love each other. As you said, situation is complicated. It is still a bit of Jiwoon’s fault for taking his phone away, etc, but I can’t blame him completely because I relate to his feelings and trauma.
Because if Suha had his phone, I think red head could’ve tracked him down.

Both sides have it hard (Suha and Jiwoon), right now, Jiwoon has it the hardest, he’s dealing with both mental issues and putting all the burden of finding evidences on his shoulder. He genuinely loves Suha, Suha as well.

I think both of us are saying the same thing lmao but wrong page of the meaning. We both don’t like the red head, we both know it’s not completely either side’s fault that this happened, both have some lacks in certain areas.

I’m just saying Suha has to know soon, maybe not now of course for his own safety, but he has to know and continue staying home. So if Suha doesn’t know and there’s an emergency outside, Suha will want to go out not knowing.
Right now Suha doesn’t have to know but sooner he will.