Well said!
Honestly I'm seeing so many comments accusing Kurose-kun of slut shaming and it's making me laugh and I think what you said is the perfect explanation for what's going on
I would like to add that some people think that Kurose is abusive to Shirotani when Shirotani does things such as taking off his pants and laying with his butt on Kurose's lap, or later when Shirotani verbally expresses the desire to have sex. To me, Shirotani indicates he wants Kurose to do sexual things with him with both actions and words. Now, if Kurose had taken off his pants and laid across her lap, I could see where she might think he wanted to have sex. But if it's abusive for Kurose to do things to Shirotani that Shrotani wants done, how can it not be harassment for her to proceed with unwanted attention to Kurose? How can the consensual relationship be wrong and the unwelcome attention be good?
Thanks :) I consider myself sex-positive, but I also feel strongly about unwanted attention. I guess sometimes that may seem to conflict, but in my mind, it makes sense if you watch people.
Thanks for the indepth body language analysis! I can really apreiciate this, espically because manga relies on the visual aspects the mangaka creates, it's nice to find someone who can spot and apreiciate it.
That's one of the things I really love about manga, "story telling through drawing" and enabling us to see such emotion.
Can't people read basic body language? (〜￣△￣)〜
The version of her would be commonly called a creep, one insulting your peers at that. "Hey girl, forget about that wimp, if you ever get bored of him come to me."
Like what. Would women here tell him to back off "politely"? You're too nice~
Yeah, there's no sexism, stop reading too far into it. Equality means equally getting as much shit when you have a shit attitude. And he whispered to her, so it stays between the two, he's not humiliating her in public.
That works.
Although I am sure body language is somewhat dependent on culture (just as the language and translations are), let's look at how what's-her-face is acting in chapter 35 based on how the characters are positioned and what social cues are involved. On the first page, Kurose and Shirotani are facing each other but turn to look at her. She is ostensively speaking to Shirotani, but stands much closer to Kurose.
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She does it again on page two--she stands close to Kurose and speaks as if to Shirotani. Then on page three she sits farthest from Shirotani and smiles at Kurose, ignoring that he frowns slightly as he looks back at her.
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See how she leans into Kurose and how he sits up straight? He looks at her without turning his head or shoulders in her direction. She is the only one smiling. Notice how Kurose has his drink close to Shirotani's drink, even as she cosies up to Kurose. Then in the next pane,+l she does the hair thing and looks flirty--but there is no return smile or return lean. His face is blank and his body is kind of squared off. Not defensive, but not inviting. There is no mutual flirt there. In the bottom panel, Kurose turns his head to Shirotanti in an attentive way.
Throughout this chapter, she smiles at Kurse, Shirotani fidgets, looks nervous, and puts on a fake smile, and Kurose keeps a straight face and does not encourage her. Kurose turns his eyes to her to talk but not his whole face.
When she says catty things about Shirotani, Kurse looks upset.
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Kurse is clearly paying attention to Shirotani clenching his hands, and Kurose is not smiling at her nasty comments or looking at her. Later, Kurose wants to go after Shirotani and she stops him.
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He is polite and blank while she continues giggling and doing the hair thing and bumping his arm.
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He smiles for her for the first time when she goes for the "If you get tired of him, come have sex with me" line--and then it's too lean and blow her off. He's just not making a scene. It was a bit manipulative, but she'd been manipulative all day, so it was just a taste of her own medicine.
Even when I just saw the Chinese scans (which I do not understand at all) I knew she was trying to hit on him and he wasn't into her--though the smile at the end worried me until the Spanish translation came out.
The point is, if you look at the body language, it seems like she's hitting on Kurose, Kurose is polite but worried about Shirotani, and Shiroatni is nervous and increasingly upset by what she is doing. Maybe that's just how it looks to an American. But from what I've observed in manga and movies, it seems to me like it's not all that different in Japan, at least not for this type of thing.