Get wreck!

That's fair.

To get back to your "I don't get allosexuals", it's that you've got the wrong idea because you're trying to make a caricature out of them. Being sexual doesn't mean people can't help but need sex all the time and constantly think of relationships as sexual. You're totally ignoring allosexuals that abstain from sex for whatever reason. Being a large group, obviously, people are extremely diverse.

Most of allosexuals: they're not constantly craving sex.

Personally I crave more closeness to someone than sex itself. Hugging a guy is the best feeling too :3. Sex is fun, but really, far from being a determining aspect, it's what I think about after getting into a relationship.

There's having what we call here where I live, a "kick", when you're having some butterflies for someone and you feel like getting close to a person. Most guy friends I have, I have some sort of degree of "kick" for them. But I wouldn't want to have sex with them, as anyway I keep that for the one I actually fell in love for. It's important for him, so I just abstain, it's nothing hard to do, and in exchange he doesn't do it with someone either. And really, I'd be happier getting a hug from them lol, though for obvious reasons that won't happen often (and that's fine aha). I might indulge in a bit of inoffensive flirting however, it's all fun.

"Sexual" is not only intercourse. Hugs, flirting, etc. are also sexual.

You are quite wise Nnene.

Plus, generally speaking, women tend to base their desire for sex more on connection and emotion, while men on the other hand tend to get the connection from sex. Of course it's probably interchangeable, but you get the idea, while men's libido is quite straightforward for most of them, you can't say the same about most women. It doesn't follow such a straight path.

This is why you get such stats (approximates from statistics I found from the UK):
http://pic.mangapicgallery.com/r/album/82/raw_/162_1008762.jpg
Women are a tad less straightforward, huh? Only about 60% actually define themselves as heterosexual, while men jump to a 75% and also have more homosexuals and less bisexuals than women. And are also very rarely asexual, unsure etc. (they certainly exist, I'm not saying otherwise, but are such a minority they were put in "other").

So yeah, there's quite a lot of diversity in "allosexual".

Btw if someone's interested in the stats of the yaoi fandom and how it compares lol (from an online poll from 350 something English speakers around the world):
http://pic.mangapicgallery.com/r/album/82/raw_/162_1008755.jpg

And it's always about connection, so most do get an emotional toll from it, even though they enjoy the instant gratification. And it doesn't mean you want a connection with just about anyone.

On another note, I find it wierd that people have put labels on people that aren't interested/repulsed in sex. Never heard of "asexual" to define a person before roaming on the web, I guess it's an English thing (not a native speaker myself). Can't it just be "I'm normal and not interested at all in sex" ? I even know lots of homosexuals that aren't too happy with the gay parades, since they'd rather celebrate how normal they are rather than how different.

*young adults in the UK
Oops, been a while since I made these graphs, just remembered about that detail xD.

Btw, anyone has a guess as to why women not interested in sex/unsure are that drawn toward yaoi? Because statistically, they boom, just like heterosexual women (which, the latter, it's kind of obvious why), while bisexual/homosexual men and women don't budge all that much (and heterosexual men are very not interested lol).

Is it curiosity toward sex (maybe for "unsure)? Liking the idea of idealized sex but not wanting to themselves indulge into it (kind of like how some are into yaoi depicting rape?). Because there are plenty of romance stories, why those depicting sex particularly? I mean, personal tastes aside, there seem to be something there going on.

I don't claim to have the answer to that obviously, just wondering ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I'm asexual and aromantic, but am also aesthetically attracted to men myself, so I can only speak for me on this subject.

I like yaoi for a lot of different reasons; story, smut, art, fluff. And when I think about it? That's more or less what I like in a lot of other manga/books too. But yaoi does it differently in a few different (less obvious) ways.

1. It compacts a lot of drama into about 5-6 chapters or less. They're good for short reads and quick fixes for entertainment. They're not like some shoujo which just drag on and on and on. If anything, shoujo is sometimes more unrealistic with how much time it takes for the protagonists to even hold hands. But it's supposed to be the slow-downed ideal love for teenage girls, so I do appreciate how yaoi can depict things at a faster speed (sometimes too fast, but some relationships do and can start off with sex).

2. I personally think that girls will like gay sex like how guys like lesbian sex. Not everyone gets into it (I had a friend who tried and just couldn't get excited over it), I know, but there's always going to be that little added spice of 'forbidden' love. Doubled if there's some sort of incest or age gap, LOL.

3. This is a bit offensive to say, but it's just my opinion; girls like to think that relationships between two guys is a lot simpler compared to a guy and a girl. It's not true, especially not in real life, but we might like to romanticize it that way. (Most, not all) Girls like to have emotionally intimate friendships. Girls understand how other girls think (and no one knows how to flirt with a girl better than another girl), so we think that guys should understand how other guys think. That guys should also want emotionally intimate relationships. And it's a lot easier for girls to get along, even in a flirty way, so guys should be the same way, right?

Basically, yaoi gives us a 'girl-focus' on how women think of men's emotional relationships. They're focused mainly on emotions and how twisted they can get, because that's how women know they feel in relationships. I know that there are yaoi written by male authors to, but in the end the yaoi market is bigger if aimed towards women. Women have more tendencies to fangirl because we like to emotionally invest.

I ended up rambling, but this is just my personal opinion. It got really long, oops.

Sorry about that. I was half joking, and I think you interpreted what I said the wrong way. I'm not viewing allosexuals as a caricature. Some asexual have sexual desire, too (it's a common misconception, so that's probably where the misunderstanding here lies). Sexual drive =/= sexual attraction.
What makes being allosexual different than being asexual is that allosexuals experience sexual attraction. Sexual attraction derives from, well, finding someone attractive in a manner that you might want to have sex with them (it doesn't mean you want to do it right then and there). This obviously differs from person to person, and things like taste will make it so that one person is sexually attracted to something that someone else isn't sexually attracted to. However, in the majority of cases, people are attracted to good looking individuals. That's even the case with many alloromantic asexuals. Therefore, my point was that I found it odd that someone is being criticized for finding a person sexually attractive since 99% of the population experiences sexual attraction.

Again, I think a big part of the miscommunication here is that you didn't get my joke. I know what being allosexual entails.
However, I am going to have to 100% disagree with you that things like flirting and hugging are sexual. I am an alloromantic asexual. I flirt, I hug, but I would rather be shot than have sex, make out with, feel up, etc. a person. There is definitely a line between platonicity and sexuality.

Honestly, the reason I started reading was to desensitize myself. It worked at first, but only so much. Even now I can't stare at the sex scenes too long or I'll start cringing and go to my happy place, lol. Then if there's anything extremely detailed I'll get lightheaded. I'm basically your stereotypical sex repulsed ace, lol.
I know a lot of asexuals who like yaoi, but I'm not sure what category they fall into. It might sexually arouse some, and they'll like that. There are asexuals who masturbate, after all. Anyway, I guess in the end I could ask the same question to a straight girl. Don't know if that explanation makes any sense or not.

Mmmh, it certainly can be sexual. Anything that builds up sexual tension is sexual. It depends from persons to persons, but many get boners from hugs lol.

It can also be totally platonic, of course.

Well I guess it's just because at the end of the day it's women attracted in one way or another to men. Sexually and aesthetically, or only aesthetically. That's why the only stats that doesn't go up with women are the homosexual ones. And it's romance for women, so even gay and bisexual men aren't quite as much into it, while not being particularly repulsed by it either.

It's basically a medium to let women's fantasies roam free. It's read as a way to relax without having to care about women gender norms (like shojo does). Plus, the more guys the merrier :L. Anyway, your points were all good, something like that.

I don't feel there's that much of a difference between straight and sex-aversed, sex-indifferent or sex-repulsed. Then again women (generally speaking) don't see sex quite just like men, the libido works a bit differently. And as pointed out by LessThanThree, it doesn't mean some won't masturbate, also possibly still having a X sexual drive.

Basically, it's women that, for one reason or another, just won't base their desire for sex with another individual on connection and emotion. That leaves them with nothing, it's cut off right before any desire happens. Without the straightforward libido that most men and probably some women have, who basically have the sexual drive to bang someone else to get that connection.

Something like that? xD

Well, let's say we have very different reactions, but it makes sense aha.

It's like, I have needle phobia. Not sure I can compare it to a phobia lol, but I get the same feeling, even if it's only drawn xD. I just can't, I cringe so bad.

They probably fall in the "sex-indifferent" part of asexuality, I would guess. Meaning while they're not necessarily aroused, they can enjoy the story freely. Besides, the sex makes for some great tension-building between two characters ehe.

Woah, so many comments

So I guess you read it because you want to have lots of sex or get raped for fun. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

Nah, I already have lots of sex ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

Wow...what an interesting conversation. I did not realize there were so many labels out there. What are allosexual and alloromantic? I've heard of asexual before (which I must apparently fit in since I am still a virgin at this age and I even have problems kissing people unless I am drunk), but never the other two. Also, thanks for having this conversation. I have often felt like there was something wrong with me since it seemed like I was the only one who seemed like I was never or very rarely sexually attracted to anyone. It's nice to know I am not as much of a weirdo as I thought I was.
In regards to the comments about casual sex can be harmful, I'd have to agree. It does depend on the person, though. I've had friends who didn't have problems with casual sex. They ended up getting labeled as "slut" and "easy" by the guys we knew (my then boyfriend actually dumped me because he wanted to get together with one such friend...who shot him down ha ha). Some didn't care about the labels. Some were really hurt, though they put on a tough face. And then you have people like me. I seriously would like to have sex before I die, and have considered ways to remedy this (including going to Vegas and hiring a professional). The most recent idea was to go with the flow with a guy that I know is into me, but that having a real relationship is not feasible for a number of reasons. So I let him kiss me (yesterday)...and have felt so ashamed and disgusted with myself...just from a kiss. So no, casual sex would probably destroy me.
Sorry for oversharing and thank you again for this discussion. You have no idea how much better this has made me feel

I have an answer for this. In my case I was drawn to yaoi because I am too emotional, so my experience with guys was that they were quite insensitive and (why not) , sometimes brutes. So while reading yaoi I was able to see that they can be sensitive, they have feelings and can be emotional too, so I began to dream to find a guy that could love me so passional and gentle as the yaoi manga I tend to read. Also was a curiosity of sex since only this year I could finally develop my sexuality with a man I love and I have always being afraid of being hurt.

I love romantic yaois by the way or that are a bit comic, or intense, Ten count basically IS A STORY THAT MAKE ME UNDERSTAND CONFUSING FEELINGS LIKE MY OWN. So that is my answer Nnene, by the way you seem to be quite wise and uderstanding, I like your posture about sex, specilly since the topic was brought by the ch 35 of ten count and the ...ok, I do not mean to be rude, but that annoying little girl earned my hate in two seconds, how dare her try to steal the love of Shirotani!!! after all, she was the main cause of his trauma. but this is just a story lol

So damn true